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SOG'69 First Try[message #199934]

Fri, 24 October 2008 05:19

Messages:19
Registered:June 2007
Location: New England

I spent everything they gave me $40,000
Experienced level,Tons of guns.

Team - IMP,Raven,Stephen,Spider,Red,Steroid

I head East into thick jungle with a stream running north-south.
A jungle path beyond it heading further east.

Sneaking through the jungle from north west corner toward map center, contact is made with enemy forces and a firefight follows. Recon says 10 enemy.

I kill 4 enemies during the firefight and sustain some wounds.
But there's a problem, ammo levels depleted.

Now I remember why I didn't play UB standard for very long.

I gave the near worthless deer gun to Dr Houston and took Red's .45 automatic for the IMP Merc.

Are there any ways to overcome this ammo issue?
I couldn't get near the dead enemies to check the bodies to see what kind of drops were happening.

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Private

Re: SOG'69 First Try[message #200109]

Sun, 26 October 2008 19:07

braincleaner is currently offline

Messages:11
Registered:May 2003
Location: London, UK

i've had fights that have gone to smoke 'nades and knives.

remember, in the jungle misery's all you got...and not much ammo at the start. stick with it, get to the base and you can get better stuff. load your guys down with x2 med kits and as much ammo as they can carry

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Re: SOG'69 First Try[message #200160]

Mon, 27 October 2008 15:57

rizzla is currently offline

Messages:41
Registered:February 2008

Scope, you have to reach the base for better equipment and far more ammo than you can carry (and being a coward I recommend only night ops until you get there). However, later on you have a new problem. You'll be spending days on tour with next to no chance of replenishing ammo for your US military guns. But you can switch to the (usually worse) Vietcong guns and never run out of ammo. It's one of many things which make this mod an interesting experience, I highly recommend you to continue.

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Corporal

Re: SOG'69 First Try[message #200216]

Tue, 28 October 2008 07:03

Messages:19
Registered:June 2007
Location: New England

Brain Cleaner

i've had fights that have gone to smoke 'nades and knives.

remember, in the jungle misery's all you got...and not much ammo at the start. stick with it, get to the base and you can get better stuff. load your guys down with x2 med kits and as much ammo as they can carry

Misery is all I got? lol Is it me or does it seem dumb to grab an eggbeater to a hostile foriegn land and come ill equiped? I'll keep having a look about.

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Private

Re: SOG'69 First Try[message #200217]

Tue, 28 October 2008 07:06

Messages:1760
Registered:March 2006
Location: Jerusalem

Quote:

lol Is it me or does it seem dumb to grab an eggbeater to a hostile foriegn land and come ill equiped?

That's been the JA2 story ever since it came out, man!

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Sergeant Major

Re: SOG'69 First Try[message #200218]

Tue, 28 October 2008 07:08

Messages:19
Registered:June 2007
Location: New England

Rizzla

Scope, you have to reach the base for better equipment and far more ammo than you can carry (and being a coward I recommend only night ops until you get there). However, later on you have a new problem. You'll be spending days on tour with next to no chance of replenishing ammo for your US military guns. But you can switch to the (usually worse) Vietcong guns and never run out of ammo. It's one of many things which make this mod an interesting experience, I highly recommend you to continue.

Well if I have to go to the base so be it. I have no problem using whatever guns are availible.
It's just that in non JA2 1.13 you don't have that nice "enemies drop everything" option.
I love that feature.

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Private

Re: SOG'69 First Try[message #200219]

Tue, 28 October 2008 07:10

Messages:19
Registered:June 2007
Location: New England

Headrock

Quote:
lol Is it me or does it seem dumb to grab an eggbeater to a hostile foriegn land and come ill equiped?

That's been the JA2 story ever since it came out, man!

Not since that nice feature in JA2 1.13,that sorta nullifies that. Gives you a decent supply to work with.

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Private

Re: SOG'69 First Try[message #200220]

Tue, 28 October 2008 07:15

Messages:1760
Registered:March 2006
Location: Jerusalem

Yeah, when you're done with SOG '69, have a go at 1.13 HAM, you'll run out of ammo even with that feature turned on Wink

Wink

Anyway, damn, you keep reminding me how much I enjoyed SOG. I really wish it'll become available for 1.13 in the future. I just can't give up 1.13's features, but oh man I'd love to play it again.

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Sergeant Major

Re: SOG'69 First Try[message #200225]

Tue, 28 October 2008 11:08

Messages:254
Registered:March 2000

So, what is involved in porting it over to 1.13?

I bet it is much more than I think otherwise it would have been done already.

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Master Sergeant

Re: SOG'69 First Try[message #200227]

Tue, 28 October 2008 11:22

Khor1255 is currently offline

Messages:1817
Registered:August 2003
Location: Pleasantville, NJ

Getting in touch with the original author would be a good start. Noone has had any luck with this or I am sure someone would be working on it by now.

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Sergeant Major

Re: SOG'69 First Try[message #200250]

Tue, 28 October 2008 15:41

Will Gates is currently offline

Messages:1012
Registered:September 2006
Location: Far far away.

It was something I considered trying a while back as Jay was where? Who knows. Maps & Characters & tilesets can be ported into 1.13 very easily. Prof.dat and JA2Set then need work. Weapons need a lot of work. Strategic, garrisons and composition all would need some work as would town names, location of sam sites (or not as is the SOG case) etc. It's a big chunk of somebodies time plus JA2 & JA2UB work differently on other levels (no income, no airport, no B-Rays etc) so porting it would really only be a flavour of SOG in 1.13 rather than a direct transfer.

Easier it would be if somebody made a 1.13 version of UB then all UB mods could see the 1.13 benefits.

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Sergeant Major

Re: SOG'69 First Try[message #200253]

Tue, 28 October 2008 16:06

Messages:1760
Registered:March 2006
Location: Jerusalem

*sighs*, yeah, I know. Otherwise I'd have done it sooner, myself.

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Sergeant Major

Re: SOG'69 First Try[message #200294]

Wed, 29 October 2008 06:54

Khor1255 is currently offline

Messages:1817
Registered:August 2003
Location: Pleasantville, NJ

Really any new moddability features would go a long way toward making mods and porting mods much better. The more things externalized the better. I know, I'm singing the same boring song I always sing and now since there seems no wish to make the 1.13 even backward compatible with it's older versions I am even bored of it.

It's more like an anachronistic ditty of a bygone era than anything like a song of hope. Poor me. Guess I'll just have to spend a lot more time with the family. No, wait....lucky me.

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Sergeant Major

Re: SOG'69 First Try[message #200702]

Tue, 04 November 2008 03:34

Wounded Ronin is currently offline

Messages:75
Registered:August 2006

Or someone could make their very own kickin' Vietnam war mod for 1.13. Smile

Smile

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Corporal

Re: SOG'69 First Try[message #200703]

Tue, 04 November 2008 04:06

Messages:1760
Registered:March 2006
Location: Jerusalem

Don't get me riled up. I'm busy enough already Wink

Wink

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Sergeant Major

Re: SOG'69 First Try[message #200715]

Tue, 04 November 2008 12:24

Will Gates is currently offline

Messages:1012
Registered:September 2006
Location: Far far away.

Quite.

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Sergeant Major

Re: SOG'69 First Try[message #202443]

Tue, 25 November 2008 02:09

Wounded Ronin is currently offline

Messages:75
Registered:August 2006

Today at work I was just thinking about how while there are a lot of Vietnam War games, some of which have kicking period-appropriate music, that the role playing elements involved with IMP creation could really contribute to a quality Vietnam War setting. Instead of the IMP psychological questions maybe the player could answer questions about where his character was born in the United States, his socio economic status, his profession, and so on, and this could results in very different IMPs. For example, maybe if someone was drafted from the rural south his MRK is really high and he has Expert Stealth, whereas if someone is a college-educated New Yorker he's a 2nd lieutenant fresh out of ROTC with relatively poor MRK but he has Expert Teaching, or something like that.

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Corporal

Re: SOG'69 First Try[message #203265]

Thu, 04 December 2008 12:52

Will Gates is currently offline

Messages:1012
Registered:September 2006
Location: Far far away.

That would only work in a JA2 setting like 1.13. In Ub there is no militia training allowed and the Imp quiz is much shorterer (i prefer it & they used that short one for Uc as well).

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