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Re: Alternative Gun Progression[message #267186]

Sat, 20 November 2010 17:07

Buns

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I have made a concept for a "Historical Progession" for AIM. This one has two variants: "Ecuador" with western weapons and "Cuba" with Combloc weapons.

Each set with the usual distribution per level:

5x pistol or MP
10x SMG
25x rifle
5x LMG
5x sniper rifle.

Arulco suffers from not being able to import weapons in an unlimited numbers, what means that of each new model only 1/5 in that group can be replaced, requiring to use older weapons for longer and to mix weapons from various suppliers. For example, from each type of rifle a maximum of 5 items can be replaced per level.

"Ecuador"
This one features weapons most common in use/used in South Amercia and is loosly orientated on the army of Ecuador and her neighbours because Ecuador would be the closest thing to Arulco in terms of geography.

1899
The entire army is equipped with Winchester 94s and .38er revolvers. Because that would not be sufficiently for a modern war, a programm of modernazition is started when the game begins.

1900-1910 (level 0)
Arulco decides for the Springfield M1903 as the new service rifle. To speed up modernaziation a smaller number of SMLEs and Mausers is bought additionally. Meanwhile the P-08 Luger is bought in small numbers as "interim pistol". There are no SMGs and LMGs and the snipers use the normal service rifles.

1910-1920 (level 1)
The Colt M1911 becomes the new standard side-arm in Arulco's army, with still additional Lugers being bought and a couple of revolvers being around. The Winchesters are now nearly eleminated, save for 5, with the Springfield being the new standard rifle. The first LMGs (BAR and Browning 1919) appear on the scene.

1920-1930 (level 2)
Revolvers and Winchesters are now completely replaced. With the Thompson 1928 the first SMG appears, as usual in rather small numbers.

1930-1940 (level 3)
During the War shippements of German weapons becomes somewhat difficult. The Browning HP in 9x19 starts to replace some of the Lugers, while the Colt now is dominant side-arm. More Thompson (both 1928 and M1A1) SMGs are issued and even a few KP M/31 are bought. Because that's still not sufficiently for close quarter weapons the Arulcan army fills some gaps with the Ithaca 37 shotgun. Mauser rifles are now replaced by the Garand and additional stocks of SMLEs.

1940-1950 (level 4)
The Luger now is completly replaced by the Browning 35. With the MAT-49 and the Sterling two new 9mm SMGs are introduced, replacing the expensive Thompson 1928 and the M/31. More shipements of Garand and the introduction of the M1 and M2 Carabine (for the new Paratroop Regiment) replace the majority of the Springfields as service rifle.

1950-1960 (level 5)
Arulco decides to make 9x19 the standard pistol calibre. The Browning now also starts to replace the Colt 1911, while the Thompsons are mostly replaced by Uzis and the Beretta M12. This also is the beginning of the AR-periode. The FN FAL is to become the new service rifle. As usual not enough numbers can be imported and a smaller stock of M14s and L1A1s have to be bought additionally to at least replace the last Springfields. The Springfield for now remains in use as sniper weapon. FN FAL Carbine replaces the M1 Carabine (the M2 Carabine in the next level too). With the FN MAG and M60 the first 7.62 LMGs appear on the scene. The Garand and .30-06 LMGs also remain in use.

1960-1970 (level 6)
With the Walther MPL and more Uzis being bought .45 SMGs are a things of the past. The Colt 1911 would also be rare sight with Arulcan soldiers (completely replaced in the next level). The last WWII rifles are replaced with an additional stock of FN FALs and the Carabine variant; plus a smaller ammount of M16 and HK33; for now 7.62 is the standard. This now also becomes standard for LMGs with more FN MAGs and the HK 21. And the last Springfield are replaced by a wide selection of 7.62 sniper rifles (Steyr SSG-P1, FR-F2, M40A1, M21).

1970-1980 (level 7)
Starting with this decade Arulcan buyers develop a passion for Alpine weapons: the SIG SG542 and the SIG SG540 replace the M14s and L1A1s, that anyways never became standard, and also the standard FN FAL, only the carabine remains in use. Another stock of M16s and HK 33 now makes 5.56 the standard calibre for rifles. Meanwhile the Steyr SSG-P1 makes it to standard as sniper rifle, with the M21 and M40 still being in use.

1980-1990 (level Cool

The Glock 17, Beretta 92F, Mini- and Micro-Uzi replace the Browning as standard side-arm. The meanwhile completly outdated Sterling is replaced by the Steyr AUG Para, while the standard SMG now is the Uzi. The Arulcan general stuff now has decided to completly replace 7.62 by 5.56 for ARs. So the SIG SG550 is bought instead of the SIG SG542, the SIG SG551 SWAT comes for the FN FAL Carbine. Additionally the M16A1 and the HK33 are to be replaced. Because only a small ammount of M16A2 are delivered additional Steyrs AUGs (both A1 and A2) and the Beretta AR-70/90 are bought.

New 5.56 LMGs are the Steyr AUG HBAR and the HK 23E, despite the FN MAG and HK 21 still being in use. For snipers the M40 was replaced with the Barrett M82A2 (standard still is Steyr).

1990-2000 (level 9)
Arulco now is producing weapons itself: The various FAMAEs completly replace all pistols/MPs and SMGs. For ARs, Colt was able to break into phalanx of SIGs and Steyrs so that the SWAT is replaced by the Colt M4 Commando and the SIG SG540 by the Colt M4A1. With the delivery of the IMI Negev, and additional HBARs and 23Es, all LMGs are now 5.56 too.

2000-2010 (level 10)
Only little deals could be signed before the weaponary embargo kicked in, mostly with Isreal: the Tavor TAR replaces the Steyr AUG and the Negev the HBAR. Plus a handfull of FN F2000 was delivered for extensive testing.

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"Cuba"
This selection works the same as "Ecuador" for the levels 0 to 4, means they use western, mostly US weapons. Then in 1950 there is a communist take over and all weapons are replaced with Russian weapons, and few German "captured guns":

1950-1960 (level 5)
Pistols: Tokarev TT-33 (standard) and P-08 Parabellum.
SMGs: PPsh-41 (standard) and SA-24, MP40, MP41
Rifles, also sniper: Mosin-Nagant (standard) and Mauser Kar 98k, AK-47, SKS
LMG: RPD as stand-in

This is actually a step back because in level 4 bolt-action rifles (Springfield) nearly had been replaced by the Garand and M1 Carabine. For the player this would come somewhat like a shock, if you had been living from enemy droppings and now wouldn't get any ammo for your old weapons.

1960-1970 (level 6)
Already with this level all Mosin-Nagants, save for those considered to be used by snipers, are replaced with further AK-47s, AKMs, and SA vz.58s.

Because there would be no new Russian SMGs until the end of the game, the "U" variants of the ARs actually do serve in this role and start to replace the WW II SMGs. Until level 9 the AKS-74U and AKMSU have completly replaced all SMGs. And SMGs aren't reintroduced in level 10 either, despite now new Russian models would be available.

This means the Arulcan army is acutally better equiped in this section than in the "Ecuador" variant. Otherwise the outfit is somewhat weaker because they get the weapons from Russia a level (means a decade) later than they actually should appear.

1970-1980 (level 7)
The Makarov PM and Stechkin APS have replaced the Lugers and most of the Tokarevs. The SKS was completly replaced by the AK-47. With the RPK and PKM two new LMGs appear on the scene; while the Dragunov starts to replace the bolt action rifles for snipers.

1980-1990 (level Cool

The OTs 23 Drotik and PSM now have replaced the last Tokarevs. With the AKS-74U and further AKMSU, the PPsh-41 should only appear rarely. The AK-74 replaces some AK-47, with the respective LMG (RPK-74) also appearing on the scene.

1990-2000 (level 9)
SMGs are a thing of the past. The AK-74 becomes more dominant than the AK-47. The AS Val is not issued, but the VSS Vintorez.

2000-2010 (level 10)
Rosoboronexport doesn't care about the embargo, so very new stuff like the AK-100er, SR-1 Gyurza, Groza OC-14, AN-94, Vikhr SR-3, Dragunov SVU and SV-98 is delivered in sufficient quantities. With Deidranna's connection to eastern Europe there should be none in her palace required to wield an AK-47, like Somalia militia-men.

.... that's for the easy part ......
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Now things become a bit more difficult with EnemyItemChoices and therefore: [color:#FF0000]help wanted[/color]

Questions: Stuff is picked from EIC by its coolness level, correct? Does this work the same as in GunChoices, i.e. an item with coolness "3" would appear around the same time as a weapon from level 3? And if so, how does the enemy decide when to no longer use an item?

For example, if I would give urban camo shirts a coolness of "0" and woodland camo shirts a coolness of "4" would this result in the enemy starting with grey uniforms and switch to green around level 4?

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I think attachements are easy to control because each weapon is only used for a certain "periode" by the enemy. So if say that laser-pointers would not be accurate for WWII and earlyer periodes, I would simply deny the respective weapons the ability to attach laser pointers, and that way also deny the player the ability to, say, use his MP40 with a laser pointer he found somewhere on the map.

This would indeed give the appearance of always newer weapons more weight: when you wish to use better attachments you have to go for a newer weapon and cannot upgrade your FN FAL with the latest attachments to be an

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		WW II Mod By: Buns on Mon, 08 November 2010 15:08
		Re: Alternative Gun Progression By: breversa on Wed, 10 November 2010 15:22
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		Re: Alternative Gun Progression By: breversa on Mon, 15 November 2010 15:24
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		Re: Alternative Gun Progression By: Logisteric on Tue, 16 November 2010 20:17
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