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Ok so I been playing the very excellent B2B VM. Tough is understatement. Awesome tilesets, awesome map making. Just beautiful stuff. Trouble is my Russian is non existent beyond Da & Njet. I have no clue what is going on or how to beat them. I took the yellow base and troops from the black sector took it back and started pumping out more yellows. I've got loads of weird items (palm pc, dolly, teddy bear, old radio, firewire etc) I don't know what to do with and only a handful (3 out of 10 by my reckoning) of the potential rpc's will join up. The girl at the strip club doesn't want to be escorted and neither does the pilot. These are no gripes. B2B VM is one of the best mods I've ever played. Just want a bit more information. Love the html map thing... but that's all in Russian too! A little help from somebody would be good. Achara. :roulette:

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Re: B2B VM queries[message #319362] Sat, 11 May 2013 14:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Holy sh** Will , you're still alive and kicking ! Great news ! I've still got this and had a wee shot only last week , tough it sure is . I'll brush up on this and get back soon .

hows things personally ?

Lockie .

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Re: B2B VM queries[message #319373] Sat, 11 May 2013 19:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Oh I ok; still recovering from operation (knocked off scooter in October by a big black Audi) and out of work since Feb but taking it easy playing excellent mods under the influence of painkillers and certain non prescription err... herbs. Hope to find new job soon. When I look at the B2B tilsets and map making I just sigh at the sheer talent. The port map in the North wins best map of all time; there's a cutter in dock and everything!

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Re: B2B VM queries[message #319376] Sat, 11 May 2013 21:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Stuck in J9 , bitch of a street map , really has that door to door fighting feel about it , ruins everywhere AND 6 effin tanks ! Finally had to sneak out to an edge and run away .... sad but true Sad
I'm just wandering around too , it's an excellent mod is it not ? as you say bud , maps are a dream !

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Re: B2B VM queries[message #319453] Sun, 12 May 2013 23:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Great health to you.

I'm totally agree with you that B2B VM-Edition is a great mod.
The maps are good, but there are some mistakes on them, but usually players don't notice them.

As for your problems. I speak Russian, and I've played this mod. Really it's not a fully Russian mod - it's based on German B2B, but has a lot of changes (portraits, maps, skills, some weapon)

I don't know, where it was originally placed, but there is a copy of the German B2B.

http://www.ja2.su/mods/B2B/JA2_B2B_Install.zip

Do you know German? I'm not sure.

So, I can try to help you, but I should warn you that my English is not as good as yours Wink and it's no as easy as I want to translate large texts to English.

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Re: B2B VM queries[message #319454] Sun, 12 May 2013 23:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I've got loads of weird items
OK, I'll tell you something good about some of them. Really, some of the items are just for fun and have hilarious descriptions.

Dolly
Some traits of the mercs are changed. Some of them like pornography or erotica. If this person don't have a special item, his/her moral will fall. If he/she has XXX journal the moral will increase but XXX is spending during the process of reading. After some hours of reading XXX will disappear.
Dolly makes the person, who likes XXX, happy without journals and the Dolly won't lose its quality while you (your mercs) use it. :nails:

Old radio
Do you speak about the item from the north prison (near Carlos).
Firstly you should give it to Carlos, some new parts of the plot will be added to your laptop and then Carlos will die. It's sad.
Secondly, you can give the radio to a man (seaman) in the North-West city (in the port) and he will give you a pipe for smoking.
There could be smokers in your team, they use weeds. If they have them, there moral rises. If they don't have them, the morale of the smokers loses. The condition of a block of weeds decrease, when you use them. But the pipe will serve you forever.

Palm pc, firewire etc is for creating something like a detector from the original JA2.


I can help you with rpc's if you give further details about your problems.
All other questions are also welcome.

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Re: B2B VM queries[message #319486] Mon, 13 May 2013 11:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks Lion , good of you to help . Smile

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Re: B2B VM queries[message #319488] Mon, 13 May 2013 12:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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http://www.mediafire.com/?vdwa31mjizm


http://www.mediafire.com/?nzmanzyjzt3

1st and second part of a translation for B2B , dunno how this'll go with the VM mod though , I'll make a copy install and try it out .

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Re: B2B VM queries[message #319544] Mon, 13 May 2013 19:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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lockie
Thanks Lion , good of you to help . Smile
I'm here to help you.
It's my job, hobby and English language school. Smile

lockie
1st and second part of a translation for B2B , dunno how this'll go with the VM mod though, I'll make a copy install and try it out.
Neither do I.

I think it can help a lot, but there are some changes touching the texts.

I am afraid you have no opportunity to change Russian to English in .exe, but I think, that the main thing is NPCs' quotes and they might be similar in general.

I'll try to translate the list of changes made in VM-edition, cause they might be really important, then we can try to change some files in the translation to make them actual in B2B VM-edition.

But you'll correct my mistakes in them. Wink

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Re: B2B VM queries[message #319604] Tue, 14 May 2013 12:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Great , thanks :ok:

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Re: B2B VM queries[message #319645] Tue, 14 May 2013 16:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Basic stuff I need to know the Russian words for North, East, South, West, Above & Below so I know which way to turn my apparently blind mercs.

Dolly & Radio... good to know. For the locals I have the original girl pilot, a killer lady with dark glasses, a tiger hunter guy who smokes and an elf lady who likes porn. All other blue characters from the B2B map won't join for one reason or another. I have been very careful not to annoy civ factions so far which means I'm missing out on some great gear but hey meh!

Can't work out how to get to K10, or the island or the oil rig. Have defeated the northern yellow part of the campaign and am busy attacking the southern reds now. The black area is to be left for last for obvious reasons.

Cash! Where the vladi lah is some decent wonga? Even stripping the mines so far has only let me hire a couple more AIM peeps. I need more folk!!

:grimreaper:

Thanks in advance.

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Re: JA 2/1 Metavira: Questions.[message #319651] Tue, 14 May 2013 17:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Basic stuff I need to know the Russian words for North, East, South, West, Above & Below so I know which way to turn my apparently blind mercs.
Let's study Russian.

North - север
from the north - с севера

East - восток
from the East - с востока

South - юг
from the South - с юга

West - запад
from the West - с запада

from the northeast - с северо-востока
from the southeast - с юго-востока
from the southwest - с юго-запада
from the northwest - с северо-запада

from below - с низу
from above - с верху

(last letter or two might be different in different situations)

And about sounds (%s - strings like C, they are name, loudness and direction)
%s hears a %s sound coming from %s. - %s слышит %s звук, идущий с %s
%s hears a %s sound of MOVEMENT coming from %s. - %s слышит %s звук ДВИЖЕНИЯ, идущий с %s
%s hears a %s CREAKING coming from %s. - %s слышит %s СКРИП, идущий с %s
%s hears a %s SPLASHING coming from %s. - %s слышит %s ПЛЕСК, идущий с %s
%s hears a %s IMPACT coming from %s. - %s слышит %s УДАР, идущий с %s
%s hears a %s GUNFIRE to %s. - %s слышит %s ВЫСТРЕЛ на %s
%s hears a %s EXPLOSION to %s. - %s слышит %s ВЗРЫВ на %s
%s hears a %s SCREAM to %s. - %s слышит %s КРИК с %s
%s hears a %s IMPACT to %s. - %s слышит %s УДАР с %s
%s hears a %s SHATTERING coming from %s. - %s слышит %s ЗВОН, идущий с %s
%s hears a %s SMASH coming from %s. - %s слышит %s ГРОХОТ, идущий с %s

I'll answer other questions later. Smile

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Re: JA 2/1 Metavira: Questions.[message #319720] Wed, 15 May 2013 13:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Awesome. Many thanks I now have a compass to work from. I'm sure I can probably work out the getting to places stuff. What I will still need quick translation for though are special items x y & z mercs need before they will join up.

I6 Guy with hat.

G15 Guy with hat and attitude.

J12 Alien!

K7 Guy with beard.

K10 Guy with mohican.

L11 Guy involved in fire fight when you arrive.

The others I have already.

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Re: JA 2/1 Metavira: Questions.[message #319727] Wed, 15 May 2013 14:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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an elf lady who likes porn
Great description. :bluecool:

So, I think it might be more comfortable to use names of the persons. Wink

Ранда Rundu - C4
Night Ops/Sniper
Optimist/Likes Porn
Learn to like: Ivan

UN forces member.
You should be a cool person to hire her. As I see - you are. Smile

Тедди Taddy - I6
Lock picking (expert)
Aggressive/Psycho
Likes (Learn to like) - Nataly(Наташа) and Fox
Hates - Blood and Fidel

Criminal
He says that he have no money. You should give him some money before hiring.

Наташа Nataly - H7
Stealthy/Ambidextrous
Normal/No
Doesn't like or hate anybody

Pilot (or pilots helper)
It's really easy to hire her.

Уганда Uganda - H10
Killer (expert)
Aggressive/Nervous
Hates: Spider and Buzz

A doctor of "green people"
It's really easy to hire her.

Пегас Pegus - L11
Auto weapon/heavy weapon
Optimist/Smoker
Likes: Scar (Шрам)
Hates: Malice

The commander of "green" people
He'll give you a quest to find and kill Tracona's general: Гектор Меткаф "Паттон"
You should kill him and find a quest item on his body - bring it to Pegus

Рокко Rocco - G15
Throwing/martial arts
Big shot/Claustrophobic
Likes: Rundu(Ранда), Hitman and Stephen

The boss of local mafia.
He likes guns made in Italy - you should give you one.

Шакал Jackal - C13
Killer/knifes
Loner/Smoker
Doesn't like or hate anybody

Hunter.
It's easy to hire him.

Грин Green - J12
Night ops/Camouflaged
Loner/Can't swim
Doesn't like or hate anybody

Somebody from the forest. Is working for another man from the same sector.
You should speak with the second man and receive a quest, then he'll suggest to hire Green.
It's time to speak with Green and hire him.

Боди Body - K7
Assault/Auto weapon
Normal/Accurate
Learn to like: Fox
Hates: Vicky, Sidney and Scope

I don't remember exactly how to hire him.
Try to speak to him.
When he'll say: "Эх, ребята, тяжело в деревне без нагана!..", try to give him a rifle, then hire him.

Гуталин - K10
Assault/Electronics
Friendly
Doesn't like or hate anybody

I don't know exactly how to hire him.
I think it might be possible after killing drugs bosses in that sector.

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Re: B2B VM queries[message #319729] Wed, 15 May 2013 14:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Can't work out how to get to K10
As I remember, you should use a helicopter from the airport which is situated in L11.

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or the island
There is a tunnel with a railway from the palace in O3 to the island.

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or the oil rig
There should be another helicopter. I think it flies teleports from the airport in M5.

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Cash! Where the vladi lah is some decent wonga? Even stripping the mines so far has only let me hire a couple more AIM peeps.
1. You can sell weapon to Mikky in D10.
2. You can kill a vampire (take a quest in F15) - you'll find some gold coins and The Pastor (from JA2 Drassen) who lives in F15 and gives you this quest will give you a piece of map. Find one more piece and make a map from them.
3. Find treasures with the map.
4. You can rob the bank in N14 (but I don't think it's a good idea)

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I need more folk!!
Hire natives.

@Administrators and moderators: I can't able html in this topic, hence I can't write in Russian here - it's not comfortable, when you try to explain people what are the translations of the words they see in the game.

I have to write this posts in Metavira subforum and then place them here. Sad

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Re: B2B VM queries[message #319730] Wed, 15 May 2013 15:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Excellent help. I had a look down the mine of Kok City; there were some fierce horrible demons down there. Gave me the horrors. I scared of undead stuff truly! Guess it's worth hoarding all that hollow point then. & the bank at N14 is tough. Even the mighty Trevor couldn't open the vault silently. Oh well firefight it is then.

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Re: JA 2/1 Metavira: Questions.[message #319740] Wed, 15 May 2013 17:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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One more post, moved from my subforum. Smile

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I had a look down the mine of Kok City; there were some fierce horrible demons down there.
They are vampires. And there is a way of being invisible for them. In E15 there is an item "чеснок" - it means "garlic" and you can use like elixir in JA2.

Be careful - you should kill Eliot The Idiot only after dialog with him, when you see that the quest from pastor is closed.

The most effective way of killing vampires is using throwing knifes.

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& the bank at N14 is tough. Even the mighty Trevor couldn't open the vault silently. Oh well firefight it is then.
I'm afraid it's not a good idea to continue explaining you what to do, I mean that it'll be much better to translate NPC quotes and I'll try to do this based on the files from the links which lockie gave. But I think, I won't have enough time until July. Sad

Now about the bank.
When you hire Rocco, he says:
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"Мольто бене! Очень хорошо, мы партнеры и идем вместе! Теперь слушайте внимательно. Я знаю в Траконе один банк. Там подвал полон доллари э оро... мм... золото! Я знаю кодичи большой дверь в подвал.Во-первых, сейф работает по часам! Двери автоматически открыты только с 12:55 до 13:00. В это темпо и надо уложиться!Кодичи такие: Дуэ, Трэ, Чинкуэ, Сэттэ, Трэ. Это значит: 2, 3, 5, 7, 3. Все очень просто, нон ке проблема. Мы тихо идем, берем доллары и никаких проблеми!"

I don't want to translate to English the whole phrase now. But the main idea is:
There is a bank.
There is safe in this bank.
In the safe there is a lot of money.
The safe work is connected with the clocks.
The doors are open from 12:55 until 13:00.
The cod from the door to the basement is 23573. I don't know for what purpose there is this code. Smile

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Re: JA 2/1 Metavira: Questions.[message #319829] Thu, 16 May 2013 12:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks thanks and thanks again. No more translations required and my imp Impulse is wearing Patton's dogtag until I can get back to Pegus's map. Single slash to the neck from behind. B2B is a knife frenzy!

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Re: JA 2/1 Metavira: Questions.[message #319862] Thu, 16 May 2013 19:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Happy Birthday to you! http://forum.ja2.su/YaBBImages/addsmiles/birthday.gif

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my imp Impulse is wearing Patton's dogtag
That's good.

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B2B is a knife frenzy!
Or yes.
But sometimes it's very comfortable. I've killed a lot of enemies, when they were interrupted while running with a knife.

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No more translations required
I think English version of the mod might be useful.

You are a cool man. I can hardly imagine how to play fully Russian mod without knowing Russian. I think it's extremely difficult.

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Re: JA 2/1 Metavira: Questions.[message #320158] Tue, 21 May 2013 13:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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@ Alrulcish Lion. Playing a mod in a language I know little about is an extra layer of difficulty I am actually enjoying. I played Vengeance and did not understand everything but some things are very similar to english NESW etc. With B2B I can only guess much of the time but that's cool. I've upset the residents of Kok City by moving a little Buddha statue on the outskirts I think... oops. This mod has masses of replay value and I'm already planning how to approach it next time round (e.g. not to get locked out of the second factory dammit, or to how to help Pegus before the bad guys murder him... tried three times no dice Sad had to give him up for dead poor chap. I have the criminal now though so that's good. Only the black sector army left; all reds and yellows are toast. Nom nom.

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Re: JA 2/1 Metavira: Questions.[message #321399] Thu, 06 June 2013 01:36 Go to previous message
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Small glitch easy to fix, many of the local recruits have an error in their battlesnds, where it say number_die by mistake. Simply edit the ten or so battlesnds to say number_dying instead and it all works fine.

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