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Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F[message #325238]

Mon, 16 September 2013 21:18

derek

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Registered:April 2010

No, I prefer having it like original jagged Alliance 2 has it - no mark of any kind. U only have circle that can "contract" by right mouse clicking and become yellow at the and, but this doesn't show any cth chance only how accurate/precise U are trying to hit enemy (by spending more APs)- it's just that U aim better. There is no indicator that will show that your attack has 80% chance on hitting the target. U have that in, let's say, Fallout or in JA2 mods but not in original game. And THAT is what I prefer (and what I meant).

I know he didn't meant that.
And U had it wrong what i meant... sorry for not being clear.
I meant that,drown by his statement "Because an exeptionally skilled operator may still hit its target way beyond nominally effective range, whilst a bloody amateur may struggle to hit a rather close target even with the best gun.", Fox will have harder time hitting the target at range of 50m with Glock 17 then Len would. As we all know, Fox has harder time hitting enemies then Len because of her lower skill but I'm not certain that her skills affect guns effective range (maybe I'm wrong but as far I know JA2 combat mechanics don't take that into consideration).

So... U have Glock 17 with "base effective range" of 50m and "base damage" of 20, but these stats can vary from merc to merc and other factors (like attachments and crit hit...). Thus Len has an advantage over Fox because he is more skilled and thus has easier time hitting the target at bigger range (with the same weapon) and has more chance to deal more damage or to make critical hit because he is more skilled ergo more accurate and knows how to "operate" that weapon better.
Furthermore, since I said that "effective range" for Fox is 35m, this means that for every meter beyond this 35m Len has an advantage over her in terms of hitting the target.
Of course dmg is another topic - it depends on bullet type, armor, if the target is moving, stance (and movement) of the shooter, bullet trajectory, merc accuracy and skill also... and so on. Many factors. And, of course, dice roll for critical ('cause every hit should have some crit chance if U ask me).

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		Community Wishlist for JA:F By: Flugente on Wed, 01 May 2013 18:25
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: Shadow21 on Wed, 01 May 2013 18:40
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: Shanga on Wed, 01 May 2013 18:43
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: Shadow21 on Wed, 01 May 2013 18:46
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: Shanga on Wed, 01 May 2013 19:02
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: Sam Hotte on Wed, 01 May 2013 19:13
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: Flugente on Wed, 01 May 2013 19:16
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: Shadow21 on Wed, 01 May 2013 19:21
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: R@S on Wed, 01 May 2013 19:23
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: Shadow21 on Wed, 01 May 2013 19:24
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: Thor on Wed, 01 May 2013 19:37
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: Flugente on Wed, 01 May 2013 19:40
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: Shadow21 on Wed, 01 May 2013 19:42
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: R@S on Wed, 01 May 2013 19:54
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: Thor on Wed, 01 May 2013 20:10
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: Shanga on Wed, 01 May 2013 20:31
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: Peal on Wed, 01 May 2013 20:40
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: EXile 150 Abyss on Wed, 01 May 2013 20:53
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: Sam Hotte on Wed, 01 May 2013 21:04
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: Gambigobilla on Wed, 01 May 2013 21:38
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: grim on Wed, 01 May 2013 21:59
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: JAFTeam on Wed, 01 May 2013 22:20
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: R@S on Wed, 01 May 2013 22:33
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: Sam Hotte on Wed, 01 May 2013 22:34
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: R@S on Wed, 01 May 2013 23:09
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: Shadow21 on Wed, 01 May 2013 23:15
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: Gambigobilla on Wed, 01 May 2013 23:19
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: R@S on Wed, 01 May 2013 23:23
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: Shadow21 on Wed, 01 May 2013 23:27
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: Peal on Wed, 01 May 2013 23:41
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: Shanga on Wed, 01 May 2013 23:59
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: Shanga on Thu, 02 May 2013 00:02
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: Shanga on Thu, 02 May 2013 00:08
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: Shadow21 on Thu, 02 May 2013 00:10
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: Sam Hotte on Thu, 02 May 2013 00:12
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: Thor on Thu, 02 May 2013 00:12
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: Shanga on Thu, 02 May 2013 00:24
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: R@S on Thu, 02 May 2013 00:24
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: Ovizerimar on Thu, 02 May 2013 02:29
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: R@S on Thu, 02 May 2013 12:16
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: Shanga on Thu, 02 May 2013 12:21
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: Sam Hotte on Thu, 02 May 2013 16:14
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: Shadow21 on Thu, 02 May 2013 16:20
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: malthaussen on Thu, 02 May 2013 16:39
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: malthaussen on Thu, 02 May 2013 16:44
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: DepressivesBrot on Thu, 02 May 2013 16:47
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: malthaussen on Thu, 02 May 2013 16:55
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: DepressivesBrot on Thu, 02 May 2013 17:00
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: Vortexdr on Thu, 02 May 2013 17:03
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: malthaussen on Thu, 02 May 2013 17:09
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: Lytinwheedle on Thu, 02 May 2013 19:05
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: Shadow21 on Thu, 02 May 2013 19:12
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: Kaerar on Thu, 02 May 2013 19:26
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: R@S on Thu, 02 May 2013 20:55
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: Shanga on Thu, 02 May 2013 21:55
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: Gambigobilla on Thu, 02 May 2013 22:42
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: Inukshuk on Thu, 02 May 2013 23:19
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: EXile 150 Abyss on Fri, 03 May 2013 00:19
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: R@S on Fri, 03 May 2013 00:42
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: grim on Fri, 03 May 2013 00:50
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: Lytinwheedle on Fri, 03 May 2013 11:13
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: lockie on Fri, 03 May 2013 11:27
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: JP'TR on Fri, 03 May 2013 11:48
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: R@S on Fri, 03 May 2013 13:50
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: EXile 150 Abyss on Fri, 03 May 2013 15:16
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: Sam Hotte on Fri, 03 May 2013 15:47
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: Lytinwheedle on Fri, 03 May 2013 17:49
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: JAFTeam on Fri, 03 May 2013 17:51
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: Shadow21 on Fri, 03 May 2013 17:51
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: EXile 150 Abyss on Fri, 03 May 2013 18:06
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: Shadow21 on Fri, 03 May 2013 18:14
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: JAFTeam on Fri, 03 May 2013 18:16
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: EXile 150 Abyss on Fri, 03 May 2013 18:21
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: sardonic_wrath on Fri, 03 May 2013 18:57
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: sardonic_wrath on Fri, 03 May 2013 19:43
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: Flugente on Fri, 03 May 2013 20:12
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: Vortexdr on Fri, 03 May 2013 20:30
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: Decado2 on Fri, 03 May 2013 20:42
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: Flugente on Fri, 03 May 2013 20:51
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: DepressivesBrot on Fri, 03 May 2013 20:59
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: R@S on Fri, 03 May 2013 21:05
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: Sam Hotte on Fri, 03 May 2013 21:06
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: Sam Hotte on Fri, 03 May 2013 21:16
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: DaethWalker on Fri, 03 May 2013 21:19
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: EXile 150 Abyss on Fri, 03 May 2013 21:46
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: Shinr on Fri, 03 May 2013 22:53
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: Decado2 on Fri, 03 May 2013 23:09
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: DepressivesBrot on Fri, 03 May 2013 23:11
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: R@S on Sat, 04 May 2013 00:28
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: Peal on Sat, 04 May 2013 00:29
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: Flugente on Sat, 04 May 2013 00:39
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: Sam Hotte on Sat, 04 May 2013 00:51
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: Peal on Sat, 04 May 2013 00:58
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: Flugente on Sat, 04 May 2013 01:02
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: DepressivesBrot on Sat, 04 May 2013 01:04
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: Peal on Sat, 04 May 2013 01:09
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: DepressivesBrot on Sat, 04 May 2013 01:12
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: Sam Hotte on Sat, 04 May 2013 01:13
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: R@S on Sat, 04 May 2013 01:14
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: Peal on Sat, 04 May 2013 01:33
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: R@S on Sat, 04 May 2013 01:44
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: Peal on Sat, 04 May 2013 03:14
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: Cyborg on Sat, 04 May 2013 05:48
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: JAFTeam on Sun, 05 May 2013 13:51
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: R@S on Sun, 05 May 2013 19:49
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: DepressivesBrot on Sun, 05 May 2013 19:56
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: R@S on Sun, 05 May 2013 20:01
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: DepressivesBrot on Sun, 05 May 2013 20:14
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: R@S on Sun, 05 May 2013 20:20
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: Shanga on Sun, 05 May 2013 22:41
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: Peal on Sun, 05 May 2013 23:07
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: Shanga on Sun, 05 May 2013 23:10
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: lockie on Sun, 05 May 2013 23:17
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: Shanga on Sun, 05 May 2013 23:21
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: lockie on Sun, 05 May 2013 23:24
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: Shanga on Sun, 05 May 2013 23:26
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: lockie on Sun, 05 May 2013 23:27
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: EXile 150 Abyss on Sun, 05 May 2013 23:27
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: R@S on Sun, 05 May 2013 23:58
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: Shanga on Mon, 06 May 2013 00:14
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: R@S on Mon, 06 May 2013 00:16
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: Sam Hotte on Mon, 06 May 2013 00:36
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: R@S on Mon, 06 May 2013 00:43
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: R@S on Mon, 06 May 2013 11:35
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: Peal on Mon, 06 May 2013 11:40
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: DepressivesBrot on Mon, 06 May 2013 11:55
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: Peal on Mon, 06 May 2013 12:16
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: Shanga on Mon, 06 May 2013 14:29
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: derek on Mon, 06 May 2013 14:49
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: lockie on Mon, 06 May 2013 15:11
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: Shanga on Mon, 06 May 2013 15:40
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: JAFTeam on Mon, 06 May 2013 16:16
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: JAFTeam on Mon, 06 May 2013 16:18
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: Shanga on Mon, 06 May 2013 18:25
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: JAFTeam on Mon, 06 May 2013 18:29
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: Shanga on Mon, 06 May 2013 18:41
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: DepressivesBrot on Mon, 06 May 2013 18:42
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: JAFTeam on Mon, 06 May 2013 18:47
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: Shanga on Mon, 06 May 2013 18:51
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: grim on Mon, 06 May 2013 19:06
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: Slax on Mon, 06 May 2013 21:59
		Re: Jagged Alliance: Flashback now on Kickstarter By: derek on Tue, 07 May 2013 13:36
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: Shanga on Tue, 07 May 2013 13:48
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: Shanga on Tue, 07 May 2013 13:51
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: Shanga on Tue, 07 May 2013 13:52
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: Shanga on Tue, 07 May 2013 13:52
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: Shanga on Tue, 07 May 2013 14:23
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: tais on Tue, 07 May 2013 19:38
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: Sam Hotte on Tue, 07 May 2013 19:59
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: Vortexdr on Tue, 07 May 2013 20:06
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: Majek on Tue, 07 May 2013 20:58
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: malthaussen on Wed, 08 May 2013 20:02
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: lockie on Wed, 08 May 2013 20:07
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: Shanga on Thu, 09 May 2013 00:07
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: lockie on Thu, 09 May 2013 11:50
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: derek on Thu, 09 May 2013 12:11
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: Cipriano on Fri, 10 May 2013 13:57
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		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: lockie on Mon, 13 May 2013 13:53
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		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: Arulcish_Lion on Mon, 13 May 2013 21:54
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		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: gdalf on Tue, 14 May 2013 14:53
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		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: Lifeline83 on Thu, 16 May 2013 16:45
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		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: Sam Hotte on Fri, 17 May 2013 23:52
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: JAFTeam on Sat, 18 May 2013 00:53
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		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: grim on Sat, 18 May 2013 01:03
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		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: EXile 150 Abyss on Sat, 18 May 2013 01:35
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: JP'TR on Sat, 18 May 2013 02:30
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: Claudius on Sat, 18 May 2013 13:45
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: JAFTeam on Sat, 18 May 2013 14:08
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: Sam Hotte on Sat, 18 May 2013 15:34
		Re: Community Wishlist for JA:F By: DaethWalker on Sat, 18 May 2013 18:54
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