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Re: Arulco Folding Stock Discussions & Bug Reports - (2018/11/04 - 20--/--/--)[message #355939 is a reply to message #355935]

Thu, 22 November 2018 14:44

Wil473

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I believe the game has a hardcoded limit on max tunnel vision of 75% if I remember correctly.

I just did some testing with the following test stats:

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2x (check against 582. Lense 2x)
	<!-- Nov 2018 Scope Change -->

		<NightVisionRangeBonus>10</NightVisionRangeBonus>

		<DayVisionRangeBonus>30</DayVisionRangeBonus>

		<BrightLightVisionRangeBonus>20</BrightLightVisionRangeBonus>

		<PercentTunnelVision>40</PercentTunnelVision>
		
	<!-- Nov 2018 Scope Change -->
519. Snooper Scope
529. PKN-032 NV Sight
532. CHN Dual Sight
551. Advance Reflex Sight 2x Magnifier


3x (check against 583. Lense 3x)
	<!-- Nov 2018 Scope Change -->

		<NightVisionRangeBonus>20</NightVisionRangeBonus>

		<DayVisionRangeBonus>40</DayVisionRangeBonus>

		<BrightLightVisionRangeBonus>30</BrightLightVisionRangeBonus>

		<PercentTunnelVision>40</PercentTunnelVision>
		
	<!-- Nov 2018 Scope Change -->
508. Pistol Scope (3x)


3.5x (check against 583. Lense 3x)
	<!-- Nov 2018 Scope Change -->

		<NightVisionRangeBonus>25</NightVisionRangeBonus>

		<DayVisionRangeBonus>50</DayVisionRangeBonus>

		<BrightLightVisionRangeBonus>50</BrightLightVisionRangeBonus>

		<PercentTunnelVision>40</PercentTunnelVision>
		
	<!-- Nov 2018 Scope Change -->
524. PO 3.5x21P
528. 1PN58 NV Scope
589. 3.5x G36 Scope
682. FN F2000 Fire Control Module


4x (check against 584. Lense 4x)
	<!-- Nov 2018 Scope Change -->

		<NightVisionRangeBonus>30</NightVisionRangeBonus>

		<DayVisionRangeBonus>50</DayVisionRangeBonus>

		<BrightLightVisionRangeBonus>40</BrightLightVisionRangeBonus>

		<PercentTunnelVision>40</PercentTunnelVision>
		
	<!-- Nov 2018 Scope Change -->
509. 4.0x Battle Scope
510. 4.0x Reflex Scope
511. AR-15 4.0x Reflex Scope
520. Thales 4.0x NV Scope
525. PSO-1 Sniper Scope (4X)
531. CHN 4x Scope
542. SUSAT
543. PEM Scope
544. No.32 Scope
545. ZF-42 Scope
546. Clamp on Battle Scope (4x)
552. Advance Reflex Sight 4x Magnifier
554. Advance Reflex Sight NV Magnifier


4.5x
539. PO-1.5-4.5x16 Scope


5x (check against 585. Lense 5x)
	<!-- Nov 2018 Scope Change -->

		<NightVisionRangeBonus>40</NightVisionRangeBonus>

		<DayVisionRangeBonus>70</DayVisionRangeBonus>

		<BrightLightVisionRangeBonus>60</BrightLightVisionRangeBonus>

		<PercentTunnelVision>45</PercentTunnelVision>
		
	<!-- Nov 2018 Scope Change -->


5.5x
512. 5.5x Reflex Scope


6x (check against 586. Lense 6x)
	<!-- Nov 2018 Scope Change -->

		<NightVisionRangeBonus>50</NightVisionRangeBonus>

		<DayVisionRangeBonus>90</DayVisionRangeBonus>

		<BrightLightVisionRangeBonus>80</BrightLightVisionRangeBonus>

		<PercentTunnelVision>55</PercentTunnelVision>
		
	<!-- Nov 2018 Scope Change -->
513. 6.0x Scope
522. Thermal Imaging(FLIR) - Weapon Sight
526. PSO-P Sniper Scope (6X)
553. Advance Reflex Sight 6x Magnifier


7x (check against 587. Lense 7x)
	<!-- Nov 2018 Scope Change -->

		<NightVisionRangeBonus>60</NightVisionRangeBonus>

		<DayVisionRangeBonus>110</DayVisionRangeBonus>

		<BrightLightVisionRangeBonus>100</BrightLightVisionRangeBonus>

		<PercentTunnelVision>55</PercentTunnelVision>
		
	<!-- Nov 2018 Scope Change -->
527. PKS-07 Sniper Scope (7x)


8x (check against 588. Lense 8x)
	<!-- Nov 2018 Scope Change -->

		<NightVisionRangeBonus>70</NightVisionRangeBonus>

		<DayVisionRangeBonus>130</DayVisionRangeBonus>

		<BrightLightVisionRangeBonus>120</BrightLightVisionRangeBonus>

		<PercentTunnelVision>75</PercentTunnelVision>
		
	<!-- Nov 2018 Scope Change -->


9x (check against 536. Variable Power RIS Scope - base test item for mods)
	<!-- Nov 2018 Scope Change -->

		<NightVisionRangeBonus>80</NightVisionRangeBonus>

		<DayVisionRangeBonus>140</DayVisionRangeBonus>

		<BrightLightVisionRangeBonus>130</BrightLightVisionRangeBonus>

		<PercentTunnelVision>85</PercentTunnelVision>
		
	<!-- Nov 2018 Scope Change -->

208. D.A. 1P21 Minuta
514. 9.0x Scope
535. Variable Power Scope
537. Variable Power RIS Scope/Reflex Mount
538. 1P21 Minuta Sniper Scope

While not perfect, optimal magnification factor as indicated by the NCTH cursor and vision range seemed close enough. I do get the feeling that I should be restricting access to these items as allowing a 5.56mm rifle to hit targets across half the map seemed a little excessive in terms of game balance. Additionally I'm considering limiting the aim level penalty for "high magnification" scopes down to 2. Right now they vary between 2 and 3 depending on magnification factor. Battle Scopes have this set to 1 and "Reflex" Scopes have it at 0.

On a semi-related topic, has anyone replaced the mod's ...\Data-AFS\CTHConstants.INI with the one from stock v1.13? I'd like to see if the "ironsight" modifications added years ago are still needed (this will effectively nerf non-scope use, though down to the current stock performance rather than the very contentious ones of stock NCTH in the early days).

More weapon features and upgrade options, via (mis)use of v1.13 for vanilla Arulco, Dedrianna Lives! and Urban Chaos campaigns.

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		Arulco Folding Stock Discussions & Bug Reports - (2018/11/04 - 20--/--/--) By: Wil473 on Mon, 05 November 2018 03:04
		Re: Arulco Folding Stock Discussions & Bug Reports - (2018/11/04 - 20--/--/--) By: Mai Ti Miao on Thu, 08 November 2018 07:38
		Re: Arulco Folding Stock Discussions & Bug Reports - (2018/11/04 - 20--/--/--) By: Darkling on Thu, 08 November 2018 10:21
		Re: Arulco Folding Stock Discussions & Bug Reports - (2018/11/04 - 20--/--/--) By: Wil473 on Fri, 09 November 2018 01:57
		Re: Arulco Folding Stock Discussions & Bug Reports - (2018/11/04 - 20--/--/--) By: Mai Ti Miao on Fri, 09 November 2018 02:14
		Re: Arulco Folding Stock Discussions & Bug Reports - (2018/11/04 - 20--/--/--) By: Mai Ti Miao on Mon, 12 November 2018 02:23
		Re: Arulco Folding Stock Discussions & Bug Reports - (2018/11/04 - 20--/--/--) By: Mai Ti Miao on Fri, 16 November 2018 08:01
		Re: Arulco Folding Stock Discussions & Bug Reports - (2018/11/04 - 20--/--/--) By: Wil473 on Sat, 17 November 2018 16:07
		Re: Arulco Folding Stock Discussions & Bug Reports - (2018/11/04 - 20--/--/--) By: ZedJA2 on Sun, 18 November 2018 08:50
		Re: Arulco Folding Stock Discussions & Bug Reports - (2018/11/04 - 20--/--/--) By: Mai Ti Miao on Sun, 18 November 2018 09:28
		Re: Arulco Folding Stock Discussions & Bug Reports - (2018/11/04 - 20--/--/--) By: Wil473 on Sun, 18 November 2018 15:16
		Re: Arulco Folding Stock Discussions & Bug Reports - (2018/11/04 - 20--/--/--) By: CareBear on Sun, 18 November 2018 16:54
		Re: Arulco Folding Stock Discussions & Bug Reports - (2018/11/04 - 20--/--/--) By: Deleted. on Sun, 18 November 2018 17:00
		Re: Arulco Folding Stock Discussions & Bug Reports - (2018/11/04 - 20--/--/--) By: Mai Ti Miao on Mon, 19 November 2018 05:16
		Re: Arulco Folding Stock Discussions & Bug Reports - (2018/11/04 - 20--/--/--) By: Crimson_Dragon on Mon, 19 November 2018 18:44
		Re: Arulco Folding Stock Discussions & Bug Reports - (2018/11/04 - 20--/--/--) By: Wil473 on Wed, 21 November 2018 04:18
		Re: Arulco Folding Stock Discussions & Bug Reports - (2018/11/04 - 20--/--/--) By: Mai Ti Miao on Wed, 21 November 2018 06:20
		Re: Arulco Folding Stock Discussions & Bug Reports - (2018/11/04 - 20--/--/--) By: Wil473 on Wed, 21 November 2018 14:00
		Re: Arulco Folding Stock Discussions & Bug Reports - (2018/11/04 - 20--/--/--) By: Deleted. on Wed, 21 November 2018 16:31
		Re: Arulco Folding Stock Discussions & Bug Reports - (2018/11/04 - 20--/--/--) By: Mai Ti Miao on Thu, 22 November 2018 08:04
		Re: Arulco Folding Stock Discussions & Bug Reports - (2018/11/04 - 20--/--/--) By: Wil473 on Thu, 22 November 2018 14:44
		Re: Arulco Folding Stock Discussions & Bug Reports - (2018/11/04 - 20--/--/--) By: LatZee on Fri, 23 November 2018 04:19
		Re: Arulco Folding Stock Discussions & Bug Reports - (2018/11/04 - 20--/--/--) By: Mai Ti Miao on Fri, 23 November 2018 08:41
		Re: Arulco Folding Stock Discussions & Bug Reports - (2018/11/04 - 20--/--/--) By: Mai Ti Miao on Sun, 25 November 2018 11:53
		Re: Arulco Folding Stock Discussions & Bug Reports - (2018/11/04 - 20--/--/--) By: Wil473 on Sun, 25 November 2018 13:12
		Re: Arulco Folding Stock Discussions & Bug Reports - (2018/11/04 - 20--/--/--) By: Mai Ti Miao on Sun, 25 November 2018 15:16
		Re: Arulco Folding Stock Discussions & Bug Reports - (2018/11/04 - 20--/--/--) By: Crimson_Dragon on Wed, 28 November 2018 11:54
		Re: Arulco Folding Stock Discussions & Bug Reports - (2018/11/04 - 20--/--/--) By: Wil473 on Wed, 28 November 2018 14:02
		Re: Arulco Folding Stock Discussions & Bug Reports - (2018/11/04 - 20--/--/--) By: Mai Ti Miao on Wed, 28 November 2018 18:33
		Re: Arulco Folding Stock Discussions & Bug Reports - (2018/11/04 - 20--/--/--) By: wolf00 on Fri, 30 November 2018 21:26
		Re: Arulco Folding Stock Discussions & Bug Reports - (2018/11/04 - 20--/--/--) By: Wil473 on Sat, 01 December 2018 20:29
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