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Wed, 25 September 2013 21:35

Flugente

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Well, I come from a place with very few guns (Hessen), and admit I have no knowledge of firearms whatsoever, apart from shortly playing soldier as a conscript Smile

I tried to make a compromise between realism and playbility here. If guns were to use real-world values on overheating, this would hardly ever be an issue (I cant remember any JA2-fight where I fired 26 mags from the same gun). So overheating is much more dramatic here.

It seems to me most of these issues can be solved via data. If you massively increase a weapon's , overheating will have a much smaller effect on jamming, for example.

A huge issue with this is that we don't have any accurate values for the guns. As said, I have no idea on gun behaviour, so simply made up values. If you have better ones, be my guest - just keep in mind that overheating should still be an issue with guns. This also goes for the cooldown values.

Cooling down guns with a canteen is easily doable (needs a simple new merge type), but is that really done? Wouldn't rapid cooling damage the gun? (I have no idea, that's why I'm asking). Though it seems whacky enough to fit Ja2...

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		New feature: Overheating Weapons By: Flugente on Wed, 14 December 2011 23:53
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: DepressivesBrot on Thu, 15 December 2011 00:02
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Off_Topic on Thu, 15 December 2011 22:28
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Flugente on Fri, 16 December 2011 02:41
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Headrock on Fri, 16 December 2011 05:19
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Wil473 on Fri, 16 December 2011 05:35
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: knightofni on Fri, 16 December 2011 08:06
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Flugente on Fri, 16 December 2011 11:23
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: DepressivesBrot on Fri, 16 December 2011 11:38
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Flugente on Fri, 16 December 2011 14:51
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Sam Hotte on Fri, 16 December 2011 15:02
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: DepressivesBrot on Fri, 16 December 2011 15:04
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Sam Hotte on Fri, 16 December 2011 15:28
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Headhunter on Fri, 16 December 2011 15:37
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Flugente on Fri, 16 December 2011 16:07
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Flugente on Fri, 16 December 2011 16:34
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: DepressivesBrot on Fri, 16 December 2011 17:04
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Sam Hotte on Fri, 16 December 2011 17:33
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Flugente on Fri, 16 December 2011 18:01
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: DepressivesBrot on Fri, 16 December 2011 18:08
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Wil473 on Fri, 16 December 2011 19:49
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Flugente on Fri, 16 December 2011 22:17
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: DepressivesBrot on Fri, 16 December 2011 22:50
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: ChonkE on Tue, 27 December 2011 05:51
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Flugente on Tue, 27 December 2011 17:13
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Flugente on Thu, 29 December 2011 02:22
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: TClaymore on Mon, 09 January 2012 22:44
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: DepressivesBrot on Mon, 09 January 2012 22:54
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: PasHancock on Mon, 09 January 2012 22:58
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: TClaymore on Tue, 10 January 2012 04:06
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: PasHancock on Tue, 10 January 2012 08:37
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: usrbid on Tue, 10 January 2012 11:58
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Sam Hotte on Tue, 10 January 2012 18:24
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: LootFragg on Sat, 11 February 2012 00:36
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Flugente on Sun, 19 February 2012 20:08
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: LootFragg on Thu, 23 February 2012 01:02
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Flugente on Thu, 23 February 2012 04:31
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: derek on Thu, 23 February 2012 12:33
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: LootFragg on Thu, 23 February 2012 18:53
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Flugente on Fri, 24 February 2012 01:56
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Sandro on Sat, 25 February 2012 18:08
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Sandro on Sun, 04 March 2012 17:41
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Flugente on Sun, 04 March 2012 23:15
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Kaerar on Sun, 04 March 2012 23:56
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Flugente on Mon, 05 March 2012 00:39
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: JMich on Wed, 07 March 2012 23:09
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: wanne (aka RoWa21) on Wed, 07 March 2012 23:15
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Flugente on Thu, 08 March 2012 00:07
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Flugente on Thu, 08 March 2012 20:10
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: DepressivesBrot on Thu, 15 March 2012 13:10
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Flugente on Sun, 18 March 2012 18:40
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Flugente on Sun, 18 March 2012 18:49
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Flugente on Tue, 20 March 2012 00:09
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: LootFragg on Tue, 20 March 2012 05:00
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Fozzie on Tue, 20 March 2012 12:14
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Flugente on Tue, 20 March 2012 20:15
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Flugente on Tue, 20 March 2012 20:41
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Sam Hotte on Tue, 20 March 2012 21:37
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Flugente on Tue, 20 March 2012 23:53
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Fozzie on Wed, 21 March 2012 10:37
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Randok on Wed, 21 March 2012 10:49
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: LootFragg on Wed, 21 March 2012 14:46
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Flugente on Wed, 21 March 2012 21:30
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: LootFragg on Thu, 22 March 2012 00:57
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Sandro on Thu, 22 March 2012 01:16
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Flugente on Thu, 22 March 2012 01:19
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Flugente on Thu, 22 March 2012 01:40
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Sandro on Thu, 22 March 2012 02:25
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: LootFragg on Thu, 22 March 2012 08:49
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: wanne (aka RoWa21) on Thu, 22 March 2012 09:20
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Sandro on Thu, 22 March 2012 19:49
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Kaerar on Fri, 23 March 2012 06:11
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Flugente on Fri, 23 March 2012 21:42
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Flugente on Fri, 23 March 2012 21:59
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Gambigobilla on Fri, 23 March 2012 22:09
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Sandro on Fri, 23 March 2012 23:42
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: The_Bob on Sun, 25 March 2012 10:24
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Flugente on Fri, 30 March 2012 23:33
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: LootFragg on Sun, 01 April 2012 19:16
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Flugente on Sun, 01 April 2012 20:22
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: DepressivesBrot on Sun, 01 April 2012 21:35
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Sam Hotte on Mon, 02 April 2012 16:04
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: DepressivesBrot on Mon, 02 April 2012 16:25
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Flugente on Mon, 02 April 2012 21:31
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: LootFragg on Tue, 03 April 2012 01:20
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Flugente on Fri, 06 April 2012 23:26
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: DepressivesBrot on Sun, 08 April 2012 21:56
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Flugente on Sun, 08 April 2012 22:02
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Kaerar on Sun, 08 April 2012 23:02
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: cnagorneac on Tue, 15 May 2012 10:59
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: JMich on Tue, 15 May 2012 11:54
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: cnagorneac on Tue, 15 May 2012 12:40
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: DepressivesBrot on Tue, 15 May 2012 13:15
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Flugente on Tue, 15 May 2012 21:10
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: cnagorneac on Tue, 15 May 2012 21:31
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Flugente on Sat, 04 August 2012 19:48
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Flugente on Sat, 25 August 2012 19:21
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Zundman7301 on Wed, 25 September 2013 21:20
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Flugente on Wed, 25 September 2013 21:35
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Zundman7301 on Thu, 26 September 2013 01:56
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Zundman7301 on Thu, 26 September 2013 04:40
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Faalagorn on Thu, 26 September 2013 12:52
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: silversurfer on Thu, 26 September 2013 14:09
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Sam Hotte on Thu, 26 September 2013 16:54
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Uriens on Thu, 26 September 2013 19:50
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Zundman7301 on Thu, 26 September 2013 21:33
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Flugente on Thu, 26 September 2013 22:09
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Zundman7301 on Thu, 26 September 2013 23:48
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Flugente on Thu, 26 September 2013 23:56
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Zundman7301 on Fri, 27 September 2013 00:02
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Sam Hotte on Fri, 27 September 2013 00:18
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Zundman7301 on Fri, 27 September 2013 01:23
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Faalagorn on Fri, 27 September 2013 01:48
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Flugente on Fri, 27 September 2013 02:00
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Zundman7301 on Fri, 27 September 2013 04:20
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: pheloncab on Fri, 27 September 2013 10:23
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Faalagorn on Fri, 27 September 2013 11:03
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: DepressivesBrot on Fri, 27 September 2013 12:08
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Uriens on Fri, 27 September 2013 14:58
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Gambigobilla on Fri, 27 September 2013 15:01
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Sam Hotte on Fri, 27 September 2013 15:17
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Zombiehunter on Fri, 27 September 2013 15:52
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: DepressivesBrot on Fri, 27 September 2013 16:11
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Sam Hotte on Fri, 27 September 2013 16:17
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Gambigobilla on Fri, 27 September 2013 16:22
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: DepressivesBrot on Fri, 27 September 2013 16:49
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: silversurfer on Fri, 27 September 2013 16:50
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: silversurfer on Fri, 27 September 2013 17:18
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Zundman7301 on Sat, 28 September 2013 01:41
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: pheloncab on Sat, 28 September 2013 02:09
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: silversurfer on Sat, 28 September 2013 11:44
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Moa on Sat, 28 September 2013 16:58
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		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: silversurfer on Mon, 30 September 2013 20:52
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Flugente on Mon, 30 September 2013 20:57
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: silversurfer on Mon, 30 September 2013 21:06
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: DepressivesBrot on Mon, 30 September 2013 21:08
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Flugente on Mon, 30 September 2013 21:11
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: silversurfer on Mon, 30 September 2013 21:47
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Flugente on Mon, 30 September 2013 21:57
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: silversurfer on Mon, 30 September 2013 22:12
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Flugente on Mon, 30 September 2013 22:38
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: silversurfer on Mon, 30 September 2013 22:54
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: silversurfer on Tue, 01 October 2013 11:43
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: silversurfer on Wed, 02 October 2013 16:09
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Faalagorn on Thu, 03 October 2013 18:41
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: silversurfer on Fri, 04 October 2013 17:15
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Flugente on Fri, 25 October 2013 22:52
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Deleted. on Tue, 05 May 2020 07:17
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