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Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons[message #325761]

Thu, 26 September 2013 22:09

Flugente

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Faalagorn

Based on what Zundman wrote, how about taking the (approxiate, since we can't easily measure them) values from the real world and then divide them by some constant (preferably tweakable in the INI) to fit the game. It's kinda similar to how one tile = 10 meters for the purpose of gun range calculations.

Sure. Just send me the current Items.xml and Weapons.xml after you've obtained and entered all those values. And don't forget the ammo type modificators.

Cooling gun with canteens is an easy-to-to merge type. Most work would be adding that merge to the gazillion guns. Smile

Factoring in temperature on generating/losing heat can be done easily. I did not do that because it seems insignificant to me in a small country like Arulco, with a more or less constant climate. Also, the current sector heat system has like 3 different values Smile

Code clarifications: Guns aren't damaged by heat directly. Heat merely increases the chance that a gun takes damage from firing (this is evaluated every shot). Same for jamming, guns don't jam because of heat, it merely increases the chance that a gun jams. The gun taking damage/jamming are the only kind of malfunctions we have (apart from rather impressive ones with GLs/RPGs). The merc taking damage because his AR is burning seems rather outlandish to me. Adding extra permanent damage when overheated would break the basic concept of the repair threshold - if a gun has of 10, this means that there's a 10% chance that if it's damaged, its threshold gets lowered too. Not 10% + f(temperature).

The enemy never suffers from jamming guns. The AI doesn't know how to handle it, and I don't know how it could - it can either waste bullets trying to fire, or drop the gun - at which point it flees. It would also suffer tremendously from guns in bad conditions.

What I could add, however, are global modificators for jam threshold/damage threshold/cooldown, similar to OVERHEATING_TEMPERATURE_GLOBAL_MODIFIER.

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		New feature: Overheating Weapons By: Flugente on Wed, 14 December 2011 23:53
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: DepressivesBrot on Thu, 15 December 2011 00:02
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Off_Topic on Thu, 15 December 2011 22:28
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Flugente on Fri, 16 December 2011 02:41
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Headrock on Fri, 16 December 2011 05:19
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Wil473 on Fri, 16 December 2011 05:35
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: knightofni on Fri, 16 December 2011 08:06
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Flugente on Fri, 16 December 2011 11:23
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: DepressivesBrot on Fri, 16 December 2011 11:38
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Flugente on Fri, 16 December 2011 14:51
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Sam Hotte on Fri, 16 December 2011 15:02
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: DepressivesBrot on Fri, 16 December 2011 15:04
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Sam Hotte on Fri, 16 December 2011 15:28
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Headhunter on Fri, 16 December 2011 15:37
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Flugente on Fri, 16 December 2011 16:07
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Flugente on Fri, 16 December 2011 16:34
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: DepressivesBrot on Fri, 16 December 2011 17:04
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Sam Hotte on Fri, 16 December 2011 17:33
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Flugente on Fri, 16 December 2011 18:01
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: DepressivesBrot on Fri, 16 December 2011 18:08
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Wil473 on Fri, 16 December 2011 19:49
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Flugente on Fri, 16 December 2011 22:17
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: DepressivesBrot on Fri, 16 December 2011 22:50
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: ChonkE on Tue, 27 December 2011 05:51
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Flugente on Tue, 27 December 2011 17:13
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Flugente on Thu, 29 December 2011 02:22
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: TClaymore on Mon, 09 January 2012 22:44
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: DepressivesBrot on Mon, 09 January 2012 22:54
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: PasHancock on Mon, 09 January 2012 22:58
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: TClaymore on Tue, 10 January 2012 04:06
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: PasHancock on Tue, 10 January 2012 08:37
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: usrbid on Tue, 10 January 2012 11:58
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Sam Hotte on Tue, 10 January 2012 18:24
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: LootFragg on Sat, 11 February 2012 00:36
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Flugente on Sun, 19 February 2012 20:08
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: LootFragg on Thu, 23 February 2012 01:02
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Flugente on Thu, 23 February 2012 04:31
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: derek on Thu, 23 February 2012 12:33
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: LootFragg on Thu, 23 February 2012 18:53
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Flugente on Fri, 24 February 2012 01:56
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Sandro on Sat, 25 February 2012 18:08
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Sandro on Sun, 04 March 2012 17:41
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Flugente on Sun, 04 March 2012 23:15
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Kaerar on Sun, 04 March 2012 23:56
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Flugente on Mon, 05 March 2012 00:39
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: JMich on Wed, 07 March 2012 23:09
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: wanne (aka RoWa21) on Wed, 07 March 2012 23:15
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Flugente on Thu, 08 March 2012 00:07
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Flugente on Thu, 08 March 2012 20:10
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: DepressivesBrot on Thu, 15 March 2012 13:10
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Flugente on Sun, 18 March 2012 18:40
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Flugente on Sun, 18 March 2012 18:49
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Flugente on Tue, 20 March 2012 00:09
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: LootFragg on Tue, 20 March 2012 05:00
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Fozzie on Tue, 20 March 2012 12:14
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Flugente on Tue, 20 March 2012 20:15
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Flugente on Tue, 20 March 2012 20:41
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Sam Hotte on Tue, 20 March 2012 21:37
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Flugente on Tue, 20 March 2012 23:53
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Fozzie on Wed, 21 March 2012 10:37
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Randok on Wed, 21 March 2012 10:49
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: LootFragg on Wed, 21 March 2012 14:46
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Flugente on Wed, 21 March 2012 21:30
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: LootFragg on Thu, 22 March 2012 00:57
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Sandro on Thu, 22 March 2012 01:16
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Flugente on Thu, 22 March 2012 01:19
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Flugente on Thu, 22 March 2012 01:40
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Sandro on Thu, 22 March 2012 02:25
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: LootFragg on Thu, 22 March 2012 08:49
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: wanne (aka RoWa21) on Thu, 22 March 2012 09:20
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Sandro on Thu, 22 March 2012 19:49
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Kaerar on Fri, 23 March 2012 06:11
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Flugente on Fri, 23 March 2012 21:42
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Flugente on Fri, 23 March 2012 21:59
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Gambigobilla on Fri, 23 March 2012 22:09
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Sandro on Fri, 23 March 2012 23:42
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: The_Bob on Sun, 25 March 2012 10:24
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Flugente on Fri, 30 March 2012 23:33
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: LootFragg on Sun, 01 April 2012 19:16
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Flugente on Sun, 01 April 2012 20:22
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: DepressivesBrot on Sun, 01 April 2012 21:35
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Sam Hotte on Mon, 02 April 2012 16:04
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: DepressivesBrot on Mon, 02 April 2012 16:25
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Flugente on Mon, 02 April 2012 21:31
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: LootFragg on Tue, 03 April 2012 01:20
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Flugente on Fri, 06 April 2012 23:26
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: DepressivesBrot on Sun, 08 April 2012 21:56
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Flugente on Sun, 08 April 2012 22:02
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Kaerar on Sun, 08 April 2012 23:02
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: cnagorneac on Tue, 15 May 2012 10:59
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: JMich on Tue, 15 May 2012 11:54
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: cnagorneac on Tue, 15 May 2012 12:40
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: DepressivesBrot on Tue, 15 May 2012 13:15
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Flugente on Tue, 15 May 2012 21:10
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: cnagorneac on Tue, 15 May 2012 21:31
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Flugente on Sat, 04 August 2012 19:48
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Flugente on Sat, 25 August 2012 19:21
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Zundman7301 on Wed, 25 September 2013 21:20
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Flugente on Wed, 25 September 2013 21:35
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Zundman7301 on Thu, 26 September 2013 01:56
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Zundman7301 on Thu, 26 September 2013 04:40
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Faalagorn on Thu, 26 September 2013 12:52
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: silversurfer on Thu, 26 September 2013 14:09
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Sam Hotte on Thu, 26 September 2013 16:54
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Uriens on Thu, 26 September 2013 19:50
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Zundman7301 on Thu, 26 September 2013 21:33
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Flugente on Thu, 26 September 2013 22:09
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Zundman7301 on Thu, 26 September 2013 23:48
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Flugente on Thu, 26 September 2013 23:56
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Zundman7301 on Fri, 27 September 2013 00:02
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Sam Hotte on Fri, 27 September 2013 00:18
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Zundman7301 on Fri, 27 September 2013 01:23
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Faalagorn on Fri, 27 September 2013 01:48
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Flugente on Fri, 27 September 2013 02:00
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Zundman7301 on Fri, 27 September 2013 04:20
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: pheloncab on Fri, 27 September 2013 10:23
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Faalagorn on Fri, 27 September 2013 11:03
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: DepressivesBrot on Fri, 27 September 2013 12:08
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Uriens on Fri, 27 September 2013 14:58
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Gambigobilla on Fri, 27 September 2013 15:01
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Sam Hotte on Fri, 27 September 2013 15:17
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Zombiehunter on Fri, 27 September 2013 15:52
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: DepressivesBrot on Fri, 27 September 2013 16:11
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Sam Hotte on Fri, 27 September 2013 16:17
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Gambigobilla on Fri, 27 September 2013 16:22
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: DepressivesBrot on Fri, 27 September 2013 16:49
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: silversurfer on Fri, 27 September 2013 16:50
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		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Zundman7301 on Sat, 28 September 2013 01:41
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		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: silversurfer on Sat, 28 September 2013 11:44
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Moa on Sat, 28 September 2013 16:58
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		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: silversurfer on Mon, 30 September 2013 20:52
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Flugente on Mon, 30 September 2013 20:57
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: silversurfer on Mon, 30 September 2013 21:06
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: DepressivesBrot on Mon, 30 September 2013 21:08
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Flugente on Mon, 30 September 2013 21:11
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: silversurfer on Mon, 30 September 2013 21:47
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Flugente on Mon, 30 September 2013 21:57
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: silversurfer on Mon, 30 September 2013 22:12
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Flugente on Mon, 30 September 2013 22:38
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: silversurfer on Mon, 30 September 2013 22:54
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: silversurfer on Tue, 01 October 2013 11:43
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: silversurfer on Wed, 02 October 2013 16:09
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Faalagorn on Thu, 03 October 2013 18:41
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: silversurfer on Fri, 04 October 2013 17:15
		Re: Feature: Overheating Weapons By: Flugente on Fri, 25 October 2013 22:52
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