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Re: Grenades (Mk2 Grenades, Mini Grenades) are useless?[message #336354] Wed, 01 October 2014 01:38 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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I prepared a little list of explosives that could emit fragments:

Item	Class	Name				Damage	Radius	#	Frag	Frag	Comments
ID	Index							Frags	Damage	Range
134	3	Mini Grenade			15	3	40	5	50	
135	4	Mk2 Defensive Grenade		25	4	20	10	80	40 Fragments
140	9	60mm Mortar Shell		50	6	150	12	100	
141	10	Land Mine			30	2	20	6	40	
147	16	40mm HE Grenade			25	4	150	7	80	300 Fragments
152	21	Tank Shell			60	6	100	14	80	
952	33	20mm HE Clip			20	4	100	5	70	
958	39	25mm HE Clip			22	4	125	6	70	
964	45	40mm HE Cylinder		25	4	150	7	80	
971	52	43mm HE Grenades		32	4				not a fragmentation grenade, increase damage from 27 to 32
976	57	OG-7V Fragmentation Rocket	65	6	200	10	100	Frag Type changed from AET to Ball, Range reduced from 200 to 100
977	58	PG-7MV HEAT Rocket		100	3				not a fragmentation rocket
980	61	VOG-25 40mm Grenade		30	4	100	8	80	
981	62	VOG-25P 40mm Jumping Grenade	30	4	200	8	80	Change radius from 8 to 4
983	64	40mm Metal Storm HE		25	4	150	7	80	
1371	79	43mm HE Grenade			27	4				not a fragmentation grenade
1523	85	Claymore			10	1	70	22	100	
1531	90	Tripwire Mini Grenade		15	3	40	5	50	
1532	91	Tripwire Grenade Mine		25	4	20	10	80	


As you can see not all grenades/rockets are fragmentation types.

About the comments:
  • Where amount of fragments is stated this was information I found in the Internet. Fragmentation grenades that explode on the ground will send half of their fragments in the ground so I halved the number for the XML.
  • Some rockets are for anti-tank use and not fragmentation explosives. This includes the LAW and PG-7MV.
  • The OG-7V has frag type set to "AET". I think that this is a mistake and should be set to "ball" or is there something special about these rockets?
  • The VOG-25P has a way too big blast radius of 8 tiles. I'm going to change that to 4. This grenade is similar to the VOG-25. Only difference is that it explodes above ground and therefore allows to make more effective use of its fragments.
  • The Russian 43mm HE Grenade is not a fragmentation grenade. It has a plastic encasing and is supposed to kill by the blast, not fragments.
The VOG-25P and OG-7V already had values in the XML. All other values have been set using these two as a base.

I think I will be trying these new values and tell you how it goes. I expect grenades to be much more deadly. I also expect that the AI will injure their own comrades because they don't take the fragments into account. Friendly fire I guess... Very Happy

Comments? Some more facts that can help me fill the XML?

edit: Adjusted several values.

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