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Re: New feature: Externally fed machineguns[message #353794 is a reply to message #307574]

Fri, 15 June 2018 02:56

No-Nothing

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Registered:March 2013

Hello!
You refused the idea of replacing a gun magazine with an ammo belt what seems to be one bad decision!
Was that decision made purely by design concept or unwilling to mess with accordingly boosted complexity of coding?

I think it'd be righter to focus on MG feed process instead of MG team. Something like this:
1) MG must be UNLOADED
2) MGner must have his weapon IN ANY HAND
3) if 1)+2)=OK he/helper must spend APs for READYING / INSERTING belt into the gun (10-20 by default) *
* maybe by $-menu? You could even to choose which belt in a vest (if a vest has some belts) / other places to feed from this way!
4) the ammo belt TEMPORALLY CLONES itself. One copy stay like it is (and is the base). Another is temporally inserted (temporal magazine). Shooting the gun causes both copies sync-spend ammo! Of course "temporal magazine" disappears if 5) happens!
5) Removing MG from hands, depleted or taken away belt means the process must be repeated
If you could do this that would be very cool! I like very much both this feature and how it interfaced now. But I feel strong luck of adjustments I described above.
To explain further I have to highlight the most disturbing things at now! It is inability to feed MG with unmatching ammo (HP, AP, Tracer...) and this weird way how ammo count allowed to be fired (from OUTER source) depends on ammo count INSIDE MG magazine.

Additionally possibility to feed (the way described above or the present one) from attachment may be useful. And further would go a special ammobelt slot (somehow involving spending APs) instead of secondary hand for guns recognized as belt-feeded to allow belt-feed without helper / special vest. This way could difference between MG able to attach an ammobox to itself like PKM and MG not able to be highlighted.
Another problem is you cannot transform ammo to for example 200 round belt IF you don't have a MG with this amount!!! Not sure how this is to do the simplest but have one thought. It's an attachment like "masterkey" UB shotgun plus coding that an UBgun cannot be chosen by scrolling through firemodes (by "B" key) if it's ammo belt.

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		New feature: Externally fed machineguns By: Flugente on Tue, 17 July 2012 00:23
		Re: New feature: Externally fed machineguns By: No-Nothing on Fri, 15 June 2018 02:56
		Re: New feature: Externally fed machineguns By: Flugente on Fri, 15 June 2018 21:21
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		Re: New feature: Externally fed machineguns By: usrbid on Tue, 17 July 2012 04:22
		Re: New feature: Externally fed machineguns By: H_412 on Tue, 17 July 2012 05:04
		Re: New feature: Externally fed machineguns By: DepressivesBrot on Tue, 17 July 2012 11:49
		Re: New feature: Externally fed machineguns By: usrbid on Tue, 17 July 2012 20:23
		Re: New feature: Externally fed machineguns By: DepressivesBrot on Tue, 17 July 2012 20:38
		Re: New feature: Externally fed machineguns By: Flugente on Tue, 17 July 2012 21:04
		Re: New feature: Externally fed machineguns By: usrbid on Tue, 17 July 2012 22:23
		Re: New feature: Externally fed machineguns By: K0ukku on Sat, 21 July 2012 14:11
		Re: New feature: Externally fed machineguns By: Flugente on Sat, 21 July 2012 14:22
		Re: New feature: Externally fed machineguns By: Flugente on Mon, 23 July 2012 21:24
		Re: New feature: Externally fed machineguns By: Hazapuza on Tue, 24 July 2012 17:44
		Re: New feature: Externally fed machineguns By: Sam Hotte on Tue, 24 July 2012 18:24
		Re: New feature: Externally fed machineguns By: Hazapuza on Tue, 24 July 2012 23:03
		Re: New feature: Externally fed machineguns By: Flugente on Tue, 24 July 2012 23:12
		Re: New feature: Externally fed machineguns By: Sam Hotte on Tue, 24 July 2012 23:16
		Re: New feature: Externally fed machineguns By: usrbid on Thu, 26 July 2012 12:04
		Re: New feature: Externally fed machineguns By: Headhunter on Thu, 26 July 2012 12:20
		Re: New feature: Externally fed machineguns By: DepressivesBrot on Thu, 26 July 2012 12:36
		Re: New feature: Externally fed machineguns By: Headhunter on Thu, 26 July 2012 13:59
		Re: New feature: Externally fed machineguns By: usrbid on Fri, 27 July 2012 13:37
		Re: New feature: Externally fed machineguns By: DepressivesBrot on Fri, 27 July 2012 13:47
		Re: New feature: Externally fed machineguns By: Maalstroom on Fri, 27 July 2012 14:30
		Re: New feature: Externally fed machineguns By: Wil473 on Wed, 08 August 2012 20:33
		Re: New feature: Externally fed machineguns By: Flugente on Sat, 11 August 2012 15:55
		Re: New feature: Externally fed machineguns By: H_412 on Sat, 11 August 2012 16:55
		Re: New feature: Externally fed machineguns By: Flugente on Sat, 11 August 2012 16:58
		Re: New feature: Externally fed machineguns By: DepressivesBrot on Sat, 11 August 2012 17:36
		Re: New feature: Externally fed machineguns By: Wil473 on Sat, 11 August 2012 17:54
		Re: New feature: Externally fed machineguns By: Flugente on Sat, 11 August 2012 19:01
		Re: New feature: Externally fed machineguns By: Wil473 on Sat, 11 August 2012 19:48
		Re: New feature: Externally fed machineguns By: Flugente on Sat, 11 August 2012 19:56

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