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Re: Is Magic black or white?[message #128833] Thu, 08 February 2007 16:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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we have beaver skin tone Very Happy

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Re: Is Magic black or white?[message #128893] Thu, 08 February 2007 20:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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we have beaver skin tone Very Happy



Furry brown with buck teeth and a big flat tail. :biglaugh: And here I thought you all resembled Bullwinkle more. :moosegrin:

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Re: Is Magic black or white?[message #131952] Wed, 07 March 2007 17:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Magic is white like his friend Jimmy.He takes a lot of sun of course.
I hate Magic because he is the most expensive mercenary,but not the most useful.Mike at 8th level has 10000 $ of pay.Magic at 4th level 4800 $,at 5th level 6500 $,so at level 8th has a pay higher than Mike.
And i think that Walker isn't a surname suited for Magic...Walker is for colonel Leo Kelly!

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Re: Is Magic black or white?[message #131953] Wed, 07 March 2007 17:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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actually magic is a black man...his hair..facial features and voice all speak of southern black man..i myself hate putting colours on people prolly cause my great great grandaddy was of a darker skin tone and i'm of a lighter skin tone cause he married a medium skin tone when he escaped to canada on the underground railroad ..but magic is a black man

edit:the easiest way to check is to open proedit and see Razz

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Re: Is Magic black or white?[message #131956] Wed, 07 March 2007 18:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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But in deadly games he has blonde hair!

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Re: Is Magic black or white?[message #131957] Wed, 07 March 2007 18:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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lotta african american's dyed thier hair in the 90's during the disco revival..LOL

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Re: Is Magic black or white?[message #138274] Thu, 10 May 2007 11:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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May be black, may be a cross.. surely not white.

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Re: Is Magic black or white?[message #139015] Thu, 17 May 2007 00:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Magic..is...MAGIC..he rises above colours and charges an arm and leg for it Razz

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Re: Is Magic black or white?[message #140951] Sun, 27 May 2007 14:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I am not saying that all whiteys are racists, but Blood is Magicks best buddy. (Was Ice his friend too or just Blood's?)
And he has something against 'good ole racist boy Bubba', if I remember the quote correctly. That and he looks more like black than white.

However, I agree with Tbird above. Totally.

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Re: Is Magic black or white?[message #143803] Sat, 09 June 2007 14:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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To me, Magic has always been black. And since ProEdit agrees...

However, I seem to remember that ProEdit also claims that Len is black Razz

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Re: Is Magic black or white?[message #143806] Sat, 09 June 2007 15:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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why would you think he isn't?

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Re: Is Magic black or white?[message #143832] Sat, 09 June 2007 20:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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That's right about Len. He always appeared as white until pretty recently. I don't know if this was because of a few defective play discs that I bought or what but before I looked at Proedit the first time I was unaware that he was supposed to be black. He niether looks, sounds or has any indacationof being anything other than an extremely white man.

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Re: Is Magic black or white?[message #143852] Sat, 09 June 2007 21:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I have looked to proedit.
weird but magic seems to be a racist??Really. there is "Racist"-"Racist" enabled.

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Re: Is Magic black or white?[message #143873] Sun, 10 June 2007 01:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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That's right about Len. He always appeared as white until pretty recently. I don't know if this was because of a few defective play discs that I bought or what but before I looked at Proedit the first time I was unaware that he was supposed to be black. He niether looks, sounds or has any indacationof being anything other than an extremely white man.


lol

another one that plays with a weird color/ contrast setting

look at the contrast between len's facial color and his grey hair. White man don't look like that unless they've spent ages on a sunbench (plus the face's shape)

plus, what skincolor rating has Len, Blackskin or tanskin?

Len to me is another totally stereotypical black gunnery/ drill sergeant kind of figure that you'll pick up in every second war-related action movie. Almost all ja2 characters have to fit certain stereotypes, Len included Wink
of course, since there's no races in RL, proedit's races rating can be confusing. Skin color is determined by quite a number of different genes which means you can possibly get all thinkable shades/ colors there. And given ja2's 256 color palette's added to this, it can be confusing. But for me until now, both Magic and Len were clear cases.

but it's not impossible they've treated him as white previously. Would be quite odd, but why not, as the skin tone of a person, especially under certain lighting conditions (ja2's mug shots) can quite reach an area where you wouldn't be able to easily decide whether to call that "black" or "white".
So for me, the thing that made me decide was the stereotype figure, not the actual mugshots alone

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Re: Is Magic black or white?[message #143917] Sun, 10 June 2007 08:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well, he walked around with pinkish skin, talked EXACTLY like a white man and was a member of a 'gun club' so sue me for being an American and assuming he was white.

I repeat, only in later games did his skin ever appear anything but vannilla lilly.

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Re: Is Magic black or white?[message #144263] Tue, 12 June 2007 17:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yeah, that's strange... Magic has always been black in my games, both mugshot and in-game, while Len has always been white (apart from the ProEdit thing). Might be time for a complete reinstall instead of using my ancient stuff.

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Re: Is Magic black or white?[message #144307] Tue, 12 June 2007 21:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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In my original game (a store bought $50.00 copy) Len appeared white. It is only in recent games he is black.

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Re: Is Magic black or white?[message #144366] Wed, 13 June 2007 01:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Magic
Len
Blood
Ice
Vicki ( Jamacian )
Gus
Dynamo

Are all black. Smile

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Re: Is Magic black or white?[message #144739] Fri, 15 June 2007 02:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I've never considered or seen Ice,Magic and Len as white men. Not in mugshots nor ingame.

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Re: Is Magic black or white?[message #145843] Thu, 21 June 2007 06:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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theres no way Gus is black or Len,Len looks really tan and gus looks white to me.and Ivan is russian

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Re: Is Magic black or white?[message #145868] Thu, 21 June 2007 14:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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rofl

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Re: Is Magic black or white?[message #145892] Thu, 21 June 2007 18:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Gus is white,hes only a bit darker(Yeah, sunny is everywhere you know),Iggy looks like Ron Pearlman and biff looks like an idiot

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Re: Is Magic black or white?[message #145895] Thu, 21 June 2007 19:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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donno why this debate is even going on when proedit holds the answers..the game designers put in what they are..no need to argue it Very Happy

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Re: Is Magic black or white?[message #145975] Fri, 22 June 2007 03:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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lol no they can be wrong or miss print sometimes no ones perfect,but Gus nor Len are black

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Re: Is Magic black or white?[message #145976] Fri, 22 June 2007 03:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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oh and how do u know that some mercs are racist?do they tend to spit racist comments out?

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Re: Is Magic black or white?[message #145979] Fri, 22 June 2007 03:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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proedit also mentions if a merc is rascist..lol..meltdown is extreme racist according to proedit Razz

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Re: Is Magic black or white?[message #145980] Fri, 22 June 2007 03:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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i need to check out proedit if its not hard to use

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Re: Is Magic black or white?[message #146078] Fri, 22 June 2007 17:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Proedit says that Magic is a racist too(but not extreme)! :confused:

Racist complains about racist?

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Re: Is Magic black or white?[message #146574] Mon, 25 June 2007 15:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Not heard of Black Panthers then Smert? Can hardly credit this thread is still running. Magic; Gus & Len are all variations of Black. If in doubt look at pro-edit and listen to their voices; look at the mugshots again with enlightened eyes.

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Re: Is Magic black or white?[message #146593] Mon, 25 June 2007 17:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Can hardly credit this thread is still running.


I can.

i've seen even worse than that...

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Re: Is Magic black or white?[message #146629] Mon, 25 June 2007 19:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Not heard of Black Panthers then Smert? Can hardly credit this thread is still running. Magic; Gus & Len are all variations of Black. If in doubt look at pro-edit and listen to their voices; look at the mugshots again with enlightened eyes.



Yup, I have heard about these BP folks.But you know, Iam czech,I cant know everything about things that are far far away Smile

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Re: Is Magic black or white?[message #146761] Tue, 26 June 2007 11:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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that came out wrong... hell we all know different stuff otherwise we'd die of boredom...

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Re: Is Magic black or white?[message #151063] Sun, 29 July 2007 00:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I thought that Blood was a former member of the ANC (African National Congress), not the Black Panthers.And as far as I remember he's a saffa; so...

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Re: Is Magic black or white?[message #151092] Sun, 29 July 2007 17:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Magic is a Spartan

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Re: Is Magic black or white?[message #151095] Sun, 29 July 2007 18:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yeah and Barry is from Hawaii eh? :armsfolded:

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Re: Is Magic black or white?[message #151141] Mon, 30 July 2007 08:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Is Magic black or white?[message #151143] Mon, 30 July 2007 11:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hahah, good one

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Re: Is Magic black or white?[message #152180] Wed, 08 August 2007 00:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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and Ivan is russian

Strange, I have always thought he's north Korean.

Smert
Biff looks like an idiot
No. Irish. Think it over, there is a s-l-i-g-h-t difference.

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Re: Is Magic black or white?[message #152262] Wed, 08 August 2007 15:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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... this would probably be hilarious, if I had any idea what it was mocking. :whoknows: Someone want to clue me in? :crazy:

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Re: Is Magic black or white?[message #157702] Sun, 16 September 2007 14:51 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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He is surely black. Voice, racist-hatred, friends, and everything telss the same

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