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Getting the Chalice of Chance in Balime - game bugged or am I just lame?[message #206556] Sat, 17 January 2009 21:22 Go to next message
bamstroker
Messages:2
Registered:July 2007
Hi guys,

I'm having a problem getting the Chalice of Chance in Balime. I'm playing JA2 1.13 and I've taken both sectors of Balime.

When I enter the museum, either during "business hours" in the daytime or sneak in at night I can't get close enough to the Chalice to pick it up. If I put the hand icon on it and try to select it I'm told "Path Blocked" and I can't walk right up next to the case either because I'm blocked by what looks like some kind of rope barrier?

I've hit the switch in the security room in case I need to disable the alarm before I can pick it up but that makes no difference either.

It's kind of frustrating. Am I doing something wrong or is there just some kind of bug concerning the Chalice in 1.13?
Re: Getting the Chalice of Chance in Balime - game bugged or am I just lame?[message #206557] Sat, 17 January 2009 21:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Watchman

 
Messages:102
Registered:August 2008
Location: Philippines
You're supposed to jump that rope over like a fence. But seeing you've tried that too, it might be bug preventing you from getting it.
Re: Getting the Chalice of Chance in Balime - game bugged or am I just lame?[message #206558] Sat, 17 January 2009 21:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Marlboro Man

 
Messages:1225
Registered:October 2005
Location: USA
Try getting as close to as you can, then press and hold the CRTL key to bring up the hand grab icon and try to grab it that way. Other than that I don't know what else for you to try.


Re: Getting the Chalice of Chance in Balime - game bugged or am I just lame?[message #206560] Sat, 17 January 2009 22:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
systemfehler

 
Messages:114
Registered:September 2007
Location: Hanover, Germany
I think if you're wearing a backpack you can't jump fences, maybe you're wearing one?
Re: Getting the Chalice of Chance in Balime - game bugged or am I just lame?[message #206567] Sun, 18 January 2009 01:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
bamstroker
Messages:2
Registered:July 2007
I think you're probably right, systemfehler. I went back with another merc and was able to jump the rope and get the chalice. I initially put it down to maybe just my IMP merc was bugged (since that's who I tried it with originally) but now you mention it he's also the only one in my squad with a backpack so that's probably it. Too bad the game isn't more specific in that situation - i.e. saying "Path Blocked" instead of something more helpful like "Can't jump fence with backpack on" which I believe it warns you about if you try to climb on a roof when you have a backpack on.

Anyway, thanks all.
Re: Getting the Chalice of Chance in Balime - game bugged or am I just lame?[message #206676] Mon, 19 January 2009 16:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Messages:44
Registered:January 2009
Location: north of Paris, France
You can't climb on a roof with a backpack and the game warns you if you try.

I had mercs who weren't able to jump over a fence at the farm west of Drassen, without any explanation, now I guess it was a backpack issue too (everybody was carrying one).

I aggree it would be easier if the game warned you when you try. But I think it doesn't work the same as for climbing on a roof, the AI see fences as uncrossable and tries to bypass them. Perhaps could it be changed with the AI searching the path as usual, seeing it crosses a fence and sending a message. You never wish to jump over a fence if there is an easy way to bypass it.
Re: Getting the Chalice of Chance in Balime - game bugged or am I just lame?[message #206773] Tue, 20 January 2009 17:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hairysteed

 
Messages:193
Registered:December 2007
Location: Finland
LOL Bam! Are you telling us you've been fighting your way to Balime with backpacks on the whole time? Very Happy

Wearing backpacks cost you a ton of movement points, so I suggest dropping them (ctrl-b) as soon as you enter an enemy sector (ctrl-f puts the backpacks back on once the sector is clear of enemies)
Re: Getting the Chalice of Chance in Balime - game bugged or am I just lame?[message #206847] Wed, 21 January 2009 10:43 Go to previous message
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Messages:44
Registered:January 2009
Location: north of Paris, France
Hairysteed
LOL Bam! Are you telling us you've been fighting your way to Balime with backpacks on the whole time? Very Happy


Don't know for Bam, but yes I kept my backpacks all the time Embarrassed Embarrassed , only went as far as the Drassen SAm site until now.


Hairysteed
Wearing backpacks cost you a ton of movement points, so I suggest dropping them (ctrl-b) as soon as you enter an enemy sector (ctrl-f puts the backpacks back on once the sector is clear of enemies)


Thanks, it will help a lot!


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