The Bears Pit: v1.13 Idea Incubation Lab

Messages:244
Registered:May 2007
Location: Aberdeen Washington USA

I am releasing JA2 1.13INSANE maps alpha version to interested persons who would like to tryout some new maps.
If you are interested email or PM me.

oldnooob@gmail.com

Sergeant 1st Class

Re: JA2 1.13INSANE maps[message #234497]

Tue, 06 October 2009 00:20

cdudau

I would like to try them out OLDNOOB.

Re: JA2 1.13INSANE maps[message #234512]

Tue, 06 October 2009 05:46

Messages:244
Registered:May 2007
Location: Aberdeen Washington USA

Thanks for your interest. by the way there are three ooo's in oldnooob. caus i'm stuuuuuped.

Sergeant 1st Class

Re: JA2 1.13INSANE maps[message #234626]

Wed, 07 October 2009 21:58

Marlboro Man

Messages:1159
Registered:October 2005
Location: USA

I will go ahead and sticky this for you, and when you get a download link you can add it to your 1st post, or something.

Sergeant Major

Re: JA2 1.13INSANE maps[message #234627]

Wed, 07 October 2009 22:11

lockie

Messages:3721
Registered:February 2006
Location: Scotland

Quote:

by the way there are three ooo's in oldnooob. caus i'm stuuuuuped.

Actually , there's 4........ Very Happy

Captain

Re: JA2 1.13INSANE maps[message #234629]

Wed, 07 October 2009 22:48

Messages:244
Registered:May 2007
Location: Aberdeen Washington USA

hi Lockie, I just put my JA2 1.13INSANE maps ALPHA folder on esnips.

http://www.esnips.com/web/oldnooobsStuff

I hope it works.

[Updated on: Wed, 07 October 2009 22:49] by Moderator

Sergeant 1st Class

Re: JA2 1.13INSANE maps[message #234630]

Wed, 07 October 2009 22:54

Uriens

Messages:346
Registered:July 2006

What makes them insane? Insane difficulty? Insane amount of enemies? Insane size of maps?
I kindda hope all of the above. Smile

Master Sergeant

Re: JA2 1.13INSANE maps[message #234632]

Wed, 07 October 2009 23:09

Messages:244
Registered:May 2007
Location: Aberdeen Washington USA

They are maps from my mod JA2 1.13INSANE which I am building for players who like to play at the insane level.

The map set is in ALPHA stages of completion but are playable.

They can be played at any setting. I have decided to offer them now because I am running out of inspiration and hope to get some inspiring feedback.

Sergeant 1st Class

Re: JA2 1.13INSANE maps[message #234656]

Thu, 08 October 2009 10:15

Messages:759
Registered:October 2005
Location: Hannover, Germany

You can send your maps to me, so that we can offer them on the FTP-site:
http://ja2.h758491.serverkompetenz.net/NewMaps/

First Sergeant

Re: JA2 1.13INSANE maps[message #234661]

Thu, 08 October 2009 11:13

AZAZEL

Messages:750
Registered:February 2004

And you might want to upload the tilesets too, in order to receive some feedback.

Hrm.

First Sergeant

Re: JA2 1.13INSANE maps[message #234662]

Thu, 08 October 2009 11:24

Messages:682
Registered:April 2002
Location: ohhhhhh canada

tried them..soon as i go one south and head to drassen i get cdt'd to desktop when i enter b10..so went south of b9 nd ctd'd there also...sorry,,cant give further feedback as it also cdt's the map editor when i try to open and see whats going on..using current svn 1.13

[Updated on: Thu, 08 October 2009 11:25] by Moderator

First Sergeant

Re: JA2 1.13INSANE maps[message #234673]

Thu, 08 October 2009 15:21

Kriplo

Messages:256
Registered:February 2008
Location: Zagreb - Croatia

It will work but you need to copy WF tilesets and UB tilesets

Master Sergeant

Re: JA2 1.13INSANE maps[message #234675]

Thu, 08 October 2009 16:12

Messages:759
Registered:October 2005
Location: Hannover, Germany

Kriplo

It will work but you need to copy WF tilesets and UB tilesets

In that case the tilesets and the corresponding JA2set.dat should be offered in conjunction with the maps.

First Sergeant

Re: JA2 1.13INSANE maps[message #234678]

Thu, 08 October 2009 16:35

Kriplo

Messages:256
Registered:February 2008
Location: Zagreb - Croatia

Yes, in my case crash again in B8 lloking for some tileset from group 8, so the best way is to wait Oldnooob to upload his tilesets.

Master Sergeant

Re: JA2 1.13INSANE maps[message #234682]

Thu, 08 October 2009 16:58

Messages:244
Registered:May 2007
Location: Aberdeen Washington USA

Sorry guys, now you know why there are three OOOs in my sig.

Please use the link above for the tileset folder.

[Updated on: Thu, 08 October 2009 17:16] by Moderator

Sergeant 1st Class

Re: JA2 1.13INSANE maps[message #234704]

Thu, 08 October 2009 23:52

cdudau

Got it.

Re: JA2 1.13INSANE maps[message #234720]

Fri, 09 October 2009 10:07

Messages:759
Registered:October 2005
Location: Hannover, Germany

I uploaded Oldnooob's stuff to the FTP-Server.

First Sergeant

Re: JA2 1.13INSANE maps[message #234721]

Fri, 09 October 2009 10:24

AZAZEL

Messages:750
Registered:February 2004

"And that's why my cousin is an alcoholic"...or something like that!
Star, please ask him to upload also the JA2SET.dat for those tilesets - cause if I do I'll eat his heart first. Smile

It's not that me or Kriplo can't waste an hour using TSE. But I'd rather spend that hour trying to figure out what the idea in those maps is, to avoid standing in its way. Or polishing a map. Or simply remodeling the terrain so that textures in a certain map won't scratch my poor brain. Or replaying JA2, delighted again.

First Sergeant

Re: JA2 1.13INSANE maps[message #234722]

Fri, 09 October 2009 10:29

Messages:759
Registered:October 2005
Location: Hannover, Germany

AZAZEL

Star, please ask him to upload also the JA2SET.dat for those tilesets - cause if I do I'll eat his heart first.

So he did not include it, although that file was mentioned here?
Hmmm...

EDIT: Sent mail to Oldnooob...

[Updated on: Fri, 09 October 2009 10:32] by Moderator

First Sergeant

Re: JA2 1.13INSANE maps[message #234770]

Fri, 09 October 2009 16:26

Messages:244
Registered:May 2007
Location: Aberdeen Washington USA

The set.dat is in the maps folder along with two readme files, cities.xml and maps.
the tileset folder just contains tilesets. I removed unslf.sti because Google does not allow exicutables and I needed to email it.
If anyone needs any files please PM or Email me and I will send them.

Sergeant 1st Class

Re: JA2 1.13INSANE maps[message #234834]

Sat, 10 October 2009 16:33

Messages:244
Registered:May 2007
Location: Aberdeen Washington USA

there are still six people who have not downloaded the tileset folder from Esnips. If you downloaded the maps folder and not the tileset folder the maps will be really screwed up.

Sergeant 1st Class

Re: JA2 1.13INSANE maps[message #234845]

Sat, 10 October 2009 23:34

cdudau

I have received the files from OLDNOOB, but have yet to try them. Anyone out there have an honest opinion?

Re: JA2 1.13INSANE maps[message #234848]

Sun, 11 October 2009 00:18

lockie

Messages:3721
Registered:February 2006
Location: Scotland

Give you one ( opinion , that is.... ) tomorrow ! Smile

Captain

Re: JA2 1.13INSANE maps[message #234855]

Sun, 11 October 2009 03:19

Messages:682
Registered:April 2002
Location: ohhhhhh canada

nag nag nag oldnoooooob..okok..i dl'd the insane tilesets.. Very Happy

that leaves 5 who havent Razz

First Sergeant

Re: JA2 1.13INSANE maps[message #234861]

Sun, 11 October 2009 04:12

Messages:244
Registered:May 2007
Location: Aberdeen Washington USA

phewwwww! now if someone would motivate Azazael to do the same..............

Sergeant 1st Class

Re: JA2 1.13INSANE maps[message #234870]

Sun, 11 October 2009 08:39

Messages:682
Registered:April 2002
Location: ohhhhhh canada

tilesets make all the difference Very Happy

no crashes

ok..after playing some and going about taking sectors..i must say..these are well thought out and fluid in design..they maintain the original spirit well

apon further playing..oops..i just got mega uber and 200k richer Sad

plus no npc placement in mine section of drassen..so cant talk to priest or desanto or fred :/

weird..npc's just showed up after 24 hours time by..sorta like a br's stock refresh..lol...ok..the no npc whine is moot now Razz

[Updated on: Sun, 11 October 2009 09:18] by Moderator

First Sergeant

Re: JA2 1.13INSANE maps[message #234873]

Sun, 11 October 2009 09:50

Messages:244
Registered:May 2007
Location: Aberdeen Washington USA

maybe insane is an accurate definition?

thank you for the comments and the compliment.

I put the sector descriptions in the readme to help guide.

the money is for the insane mod. when playing the mod you need lots of money. (millions)

But these maps are just in the ALPHA stage . there is a lot of work to be done.

Sergeant 1st Class

Re: JA2 1.13INSANE maps[message #234955]

Mon, 12 October 2009 19:05

Messages:682
Registered:April 2002
Location: ohhhhhh canada

have taken 3 drassen sectors..and i'm now uber enough to take out meduna..the map design's are good..the over abundance of goodies..even for insane mode is extreme overkill...sorry oldnoooooooooooooooooooob but thats a negative imho

ps:many many times..i've played insane mode using only whats dropped and succeeded..and thats only with drop all on for omerta drop zone..but thats my personal style..i dont like having millions...no challenge when yer insured of always being superior in everyway..becomes a turkey shoot

[Updated on: Mon, 12 October 2009 19:07] by Moderator

First Sergeant

Re: JA2 1.13INSANE maps[message #234956]

Mon, 12 October 2009 19:07

Messages:244
Registered:May 2007
Location: Aberdeen Washington USA

Well so far, lots of tire kickers but only a few downloads. I guess INSANE is to intimidating, maybe I should of labeled it "pussy".

There are still five people who have not downloaded the tileset folder.

Sergeant 1st Class

Re: JA2 1.13INSANE maps[message #234966]

Mon, 12 October 2009 21:16

Kriplo

Messages:256
Registered:February 2008
Location: Zagreb - Croatia

Play couple of sectors, and maps look nice but little too extreme for my taste Smile

From drop out of helicopter you became under shooting and siege with long and precise rifles.
It's look like ambush as they all expect you are coming, and there are too many even for dumb computer AI in such short 160x160 map.

So going to extend size of your map and then continue to play.

You do fine job but maybe reduce a little bit soldier number and their equipment, but that just my opinion, everybody have own preference of play Smile

Master Sergeant

Re: JA2 1.13INSANE maps[message #234967]

Mon, 12 October 2009 21:28

Messages:244
Registered:May 2007
Location: Aberdeen Washington USA

Hi Kriplo, Thanks for the comment,
The maps are for my JA2 1.13INSANE mod and have many more, better equipped, better led garrisons. The mod intro states "they know you are coming".

I will change the maps readme to recommend playing at a lower level than normal.

Sergeant 1st Class

Re: JA2 1.13INSANE maps[message #234979]

Tue, 13 October 2009 01:54

Messages:244
Registered:May 2007
Location: Aberdeen Washington USA

I just uploaded Ja2 1.13INSANEv0.1 to Esnips.

I combined the two folder into one. nothing else has changed.

Now there is only one folder to download.

Sergeant 1st Class

Re: JA2 1.13INSANE maps[message #235073]

Wed, 14 October 2009 06:57

alwaysfirst

Messages:11
Registered:January 2009

Hoi! I have used this set of maps, but i gota strange problem.

A few week ago, I made a save when I just took B13 Airport. Now, with this new set of maps, the map of B13 Airport truns out to be a desert (no building, no plane, and most of all ... no cargo pick-up) if I load that savefile.

Should I restart the game all over again? Or something I did wrong?

Private

Re: JA2 1.13INSANE maps[message #235076]

Wed, 14 October 2009 09:50

Messages:759
Registered:October 2005
Location: Hannover, Germany

You should never use an old savegame after introducing new maps. On most occasions the result is a mismatch, just like you experienced.

If you want to play your old save, return to the old maps you used at the time the save was made.
If you want to use the new maps, start a new game.

First Sergeant

Re: JA2 1.13INSANE maps[message #235151]

Thu, 15 October 2009 12:04

Messages:759
Registered:October 2005
Location: Hannover, Germany

A little warning to those using Oldnooob's maps with the newest versions of 1.13: His tileset folder also contains smguns.sti and the smp#item.sti-files, and these are not up to date (his smguns.sti misses 10 gun pics, it ends at #354, whereas the SVN-version ends at #364).

So you may want to use the item-sti files from SVN.

[Updated on: Thu, 15 October 2009 12:05] by Moderator

First Sergeant

Re: JA2 1.13INSANE maps[message #235160]

Thu, 15 October 2009 16:58

Messages:244
Registered:May 2007
Location: Aberdeen Washington USA

Starwalker, It is no wonder there are no new mods developed when dire warnings are issued immediatly.

So can I overwrite those for files safely or not and what happens next week when you add more changes to SVN?

Fortunately this is an ALPHA version so I can make changes with an update.

Sergeant 1st Class

Re: JA2 1.13INSANE maps[message #235161]

Thu, 15 October 2009 17:10

Logisteric

Messages:3199
Registered:December 2008
Location: B

is there a chance to have a special area in item### that is for modders only and thus a way to make updating mods far more easy?

Captain

Re: JA2 1.13INSANE maps[message #235162]

Thu, 15 October 2009 17:23

Messages:244
Registered:May 2007
Location: Aberdeen Washington USA

Starwalker, the SVN smguns.sti is dated 11/13/2008
mine is dated 12/2/2008
The SVN smp1.sti is dated 11/13/2008
mine is dated 2/19/2009

So how could I possibly be expected to know that the SVN is newer?