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Hamous appearance logic[message #246595] Wed, 10 March 2010 08:45 Go to next message
aehchua

 
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This is just a question on how Hamous's appearance logic works. I know he is randomly allocated to a square every day. My question is, "What happens if you are in the square, but don't engage him?" Is he permanently gone?

I ask, because in my current INSANE game, during lulls in combat, I fly around in the helicopter looking for him. I've secured both the Drassen and Chitzena SAM, which means I can access 2/3rds of the squares he's supposed to be found at using the helicopter. However, I've hunted him twice on two separate days, and not found him, which is a 1/9th probability event.

There is a possibility that I was in a square that had him, but I didn't check all the corners of the roads. Normally, if you WALK into the square with Hamous, it will warn you that he is present. However, if you FLY into a square with Hamous, or walk into a square with Hamous and bad guys, the warning doesn't occur. There have been times where I charged into battle into a potential Hamous square, killed everyone, sold things, and just tried to fly my folks back to Drassen. Could I have permanently lost Hamous?
Re: Hamous appearance logic[message #246602] Wed, 10 March 2010 10:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
usrbid

 
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Hi aehchua, You need to enter the sector to get the pop up message that you found someone in the sector. Did you exit the heli and check the sector with your squad?


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if you WALK into the square with Hamous


Yes, walk or drive will give the pop up message for sure, same for Skyrider too.


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Could I have permanently lost Hamous?


I am not sure, I believe if you don't pick him up, Hamous may keep respawning randomly.


By the way, you can "pin" Hamous in his sector by keeping a merc in it, for example while you get another merc with the LDR required to hire him, like Razor may find Hamous but can't hire him.


Re: Hamous appearance logic[message #246695] Thu, 11 March 2010 03:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
aehchua

 
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@Dieter: That's the problem. When I go "Hamous hunting," I fly in by helicopter, drop one or two guys off, and let them walk into the corners of the roads. I pick them up, go to the next square. However, sometimes, I go bad guy hunting. When I do that, I forget that the square I'm killing bad guys in could be a Hamous square. I drop my guys in an adjacent square (which could also contain Hamous, but I forget to check), move to attack, and have the heli come by to pick my guys and the loot up.
Re: Hamous appearance logic[message #246710] Thu, 11 March 2010 07:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
usrbid

 
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By the way, in 1.13 you can drop your team from the heli directly into an enemy occupied sector, this doesn't work in Vanilla. Of course you will be dropped in the center of the sector with all the enemies surrounding you, it works better at night.

As I said before, I believe if you don't pick him up, Hamous may keep respawning randomly, I wonder if someone can confirm that?


Re: Hamous appearance logic[message #246720] Thu, 11 March 2010 11:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kaerar

 
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He does. Normally I get him in the sector west of San Mona. If I miss him there it's usually on the road between Drassen and Alma.

Though usually I'll have my IMP or someone with a high enough LDR to get him first time Smile


Re: Hamous appearance logic[message #246723] Thu, 11 March 2010 11:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Logisteric

 
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due to my style of playing he next to always shows up on the 9-line (i think two sectors above grumm)
Re: Hamous appearance logic[message #246808] Fri, 12 March 2010 02:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
aehchua

 
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I finally met him today in the first eligible road square above Drassen. I had dropped 6 of my guys into that square to defend against an enemy attack. During the attack, one of my militia got killed, and got replaced. The new militia walked in, and there was the &*$%ing ice cream truck on the top of the map.

Yes, I could have looked for him before the attack, but I was focused on getting my militia into defensive positions.

Re: helidropping into a combat zone. That's a recipe for suicide. Besides, a small amount of walking is good for your health:)
Re: Hamous appearance logic[message #246812] Fri, 12 March 2010 04:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
systemfehler

 
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Nah, it just depends a lot on the right weapons, equipment (smoke grenades are always good to have), the right mercs, nighttime, the map and a bit of luck. If the enemy gets the first turn, you're either dead or pinned down to die the next round. I can recommend dropping into Tixa btw, although I nicknamed that mission "suicide drop" it was more like a walk in the park.
Re: Hamous appearance logic[message #246831] Fri, 12 March 2010 11:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Logisteric

 
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aehchua
I finally met him today in the first eligible road square above Drassen.


there ain't no road above drassen - cambria?
Re: Hamous appearance logic[message #247074] Mon, 15 March 2010 09:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
aehchua

 
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@Logisteric: I meant below Drassen.
Re: Hamous appearance logic[message #247075] Mon, 15 March 2010 11:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Logisteric

 
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that's kinda difference, isn't it :diabolical:
Re: Hamous appearance logic[message #247086] Mon, 15 March 2010 16:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Will Gates

 
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"As I said before, I believe if you don't pick him up, Hamous may keep respawning randomly, I wonder if someone can confirm that?"

yes i can, he does, he can be found at any one of his several locations throughout the game and doesn't stay put in each for that long either.

Re: Hamous appearance logic[message #259293] Thu, 12 August 2010 16:26 Go to previous message
rrroooaaarrr

 
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I have found Hamous in the following locations: D3, D7, D9, F12, G6 and G11, perhaps he appears in one or two more sectors, but will definitly be in a road.


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