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| Re: HAM SVN[message #260683]
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Fri, 27 August 2010 00:47  
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 Riiccia |
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Registered:December 2009
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I'm not really sure where to post this, but I hope this comes even close 
First of all, thanks to Headrock for all the cool modifications. Keeping the game as it is (except maybe for mobile militia), and adding something that should have been there from the beginning (suppression). I really like the new features and the way even a monkey like me can edit them easily.
The problem is: facilities. I really hate them. And can't figure out a easy way to get back to vanilla ones. I would be really happy with a few of them, distinquishing each town from other. But hiring a guy for 5 k a day, and then make him carry crates at the airport, his health dropping due to jet fumes. Come on, you gotta be kidding me.
So, how to "fix" this. I hope I don't seem too harsh, I really admire all the hard work put into this. Thanks for making the best game playable over and over again after all these years.
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| Re: HAM SVN[message #260688]
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Fri, 27 August 2010 01:22
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| Headrock |
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Quote:Keeping the game as it is (except maybe for mobile militia)
LOL, it was there when I started, I just made it better ^^
Quote:The problem is: facilities.
The thing is I made facilities so that modders could use them for all sorts of cool things. I'm not really a modder, in the sense that writing new content for the game isn't something I'm good at. So it's not surprising that the facilities I made for HAM and 1.13 aren't very good. Unfortunately, apparently very few modders have actually replaced my "demo" facilities with anything that's balanced or useful... Though I do still think that some of these facilities are very very helpful, while admittedly others are pointless. And yeah, part of the point in JA2 is figuring out what to do and what not to do, so if carrying crates at the airport isn't for you, no one is forcing you to do it. Unless you've installed the HAM Settings Package, no facility will "impose" any damage or difficulty on you just for being in the same sector (this is called an "Ambient" effect), so there's really no point to removing them.
If you still want to remove them, that's actually simple. You need to go to the TableData folder, and edit FacilityTypes.XML. Write down the index numbers of each facility you don't like (their names are listed, so it's not hard finding any specific ones). Close the file, and edit Facilities.XML - remove every entry that refers to those numbers you wrote down. That basically removes those facilities from the game.
Alternately, you could edit FacilityTypes.XML and change the facilities you don't like so that they do what you think they should do. Learning this is somewhat more complicated, of course. If you do that, and come up with good results, please tell us what you changed. Again, there's a good chance it'll be better than the "Demo" ones I created.
Two things to note:
A) Make backups!!!!!!! If you make a bad edit, you could cause the game to become unloadable.
B) Find out which data folder your game is using before you begin. If you're plaing Vanilla 1.13, the XMLs you need will be in DATA-1.13\TableData\Map. If you're using the "FULL" HAM Settings Package, they'll be in DATA-HAM\TableData\Map. Other mods may have their own folders for this. The best way to test it is to simply remove a facility, load a game, and see if it has disappeared from where it was. If it's still there, you're editing the wrong file. And again, make backups before doing this.
If you run into specific problems, let me know.
Quote:And can't figure out a easy way to get back to vanilla ones.
On this point, the only facility existing in "Vanilla" 1.13 before HAM facilities were enabled was the shooting range at Alma. There were NO other facilities at all. So going "back" to the old style means deleting every facility except that one.
However, please note that if you want to train militia, you need to keep the A.C.A buildings in the game, or that facility called "Legacy Militia" or something like that. Without them, training militia is impossible, so leave them in. In the vanilla 1.13 download, the "Legacy Militia" facilities work in a way that they don't actually appear as facilities in the game, they just make sure you can train militia where you should. So if you're using the vanilla, leave those as they are. If you're using HAM Full... well it's a little trickier, but I could explain how to do it.
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| Re: HAM SVN[message #260811]
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Sat, 28 August 2010 01:56
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| Headrock |
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Messages:1760
Registered:March 2006
Location: Jerusalem |
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Quote:What I do want is when I assign my mercs to do marksmanship teaching/training in Alma gun range (and med in Cambria, rep speed increase in Grumm), is that I get the normal training bonus without touching the facility button (like in the vanilla JA2). Isn't this considered ambient?
No. An ambient effect applies to ALL mercs in the sector, regardless of what they are doing.
What you requested is no longer possible, because to give the effect you want (bonus to training without actually selecting a "training" assignment at the facility) the gun range would have to be hard-coded into the game. While it may be a little simpler in game-terms, it is not moddable, not flexible, and in general less desirable. The idea is that you can do normal training in the sector, or "enhanced" training at the facility. In other words you have a choice.
Quote:But ok, if they don't have any effects unless facility button is touched, then I'm fine.
Should be that way, in the vanilla 1.13 installation.
Quote:Headrock says "I'm not a modder" HAHAHAHAHA! THE JOKE OF THIS MILLENNIUM
Certainly not in the conventional sense of the word. A modder uses the existing infrastructure of the game to create new content. That is, by replacing externalized content like graphics, models, sounds, even scripts. I do not do any of this - I create new infrastructure for others to use, on top of the existing one. If anything, I am a hacker.
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| Re: HAM SVN[message #261367]
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Thu, 02 September 2010 17:36
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| Animus |
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Registered:January 2010
Location: Australia |
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This might help people it might not.
(TaoCheng's many issues partly why i write this, some want the modz but not the vfs hassle)
Because im staying up to date with AIM+NAS and running 3.6a HAM with my non-vfs setup.
Currently im Running the following error free.
JA2.1.1.3-SVN - Into Fresh Directory, Then Merged with Vanilla JA2 (This SVN includes HAM 3.6 merged this year )
WF.6.06 - Merged into Data, data 1.13
STOMP 1.2 - Merged into Data 1.1.3
Added SANDRO's STOMP 3578 build 1.2.exe
Added AIM-NAS v8 Smeagols upload yesterday.
Added Smeagols
Movement Costs,Facilites, Facility types, Merc Starting Gear.
Notes
SVN is easy to use and you always have access to fresh 1.1.3 files if you make a mistake.
Also as Headrock said
Quote:Two things to note:
A) Make backups!!!!!!! If you make a bad edit, you could cause the game to become unloadable.
B) Find out which data folder your game is using before you begin. If you're plaing Vanilla 1.13, the XMLs you need will be in DATA-1.13\TableData
This setup Combind's some of the current Modz and all your XML's will be in /DATA1.13
You carn't uninstall modz or edit modz easily and unless you know what your doing with this setup
If that sounds like you, best learn how to run a VFS setup.
Installing AIM-NAS updates are as simple as dropping all files into your DATA1.13 directory.
(BACKUP YOUR JA2OPTIONS.INI files in your DATA1.13 Directory and your TABLE data XML's before you do)
- Easiest way to have everything up to date i think
- Vfs is more modular but tricky for some.
(Also good idea to have an idea of your XML's, where they came from and what data they where uploaded, to make sure you have the latest.)
Everything works, Facilities give thier bonus's HAM setting all works. ( of course Smeagol hasn't finished every gun with AIM-NAS 8 yet. )
What im wondering is if anyone has got a more advanced HAM to work flawlessly with STOMP,AIM-NAS,WF 6.06 combo or should i stick to this?
Of course all praise to Headrock, Karaer, Smeagol and hope this helps someone.
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| Re: HAM SVN[message #261649]
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Sun, 05 September 2010 16:14
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| Riiccia |
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Messages:43
Registered:December 2009
Location: Finland |
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ALLOW_EXTRA_AIM_LEVELS? It doesn't exist in my file WTF
And I turned it on ingame. Still cant set the dynamic aiming levels to true
[Updated on: Sun, 05 September 2010 16:20] by Moderator Report message to a moderator
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| Re: HAM SVN[message #261675]
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Sun, 05 September 2010 19:33
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| Riiccia |
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Messages:43
Registered:December 2009
Location: Finland |
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There is not a setting for green percentage. Ok, this is fine since you can change the percentage of elites and regulars. Except you cannot change regulars. I think it also read "missing property description" and you could not change it.
And by this I mean the training of mobile militia. Anyways I use the leadership based. Makes it more important skill. By the way, does leadership affect suppression "resistance" or just lvl?
[Updated on: Sun, 05 September 2010 19:37] by Moderator Report message to a moderator
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Did some research on editing the facilities, and I found this example:
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