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Mine Income too low?[message #332102] Fri, 02 May 2014 18:12 Go to next message
dreamer2008

 
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I recently started replaying JA2 1.13 with the latest version (7178) and in this new game, I happily captured Drassen, the first SAM Site, found Skyrider... you know, basic stuff you do at the beginning.

But I noticed that the mine income is 1900 dollars per day. I have to admit that I haven't played in a while, but isn't this too low? I can barely afford to pay 3 weak mercs, without thinking about buying new (used) weapons, ammo, training militia...

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Re: Mine Income too low?[message #332103] Fri, 02 May 2014 18:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
rummtata

 
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I think that may depend on your chosen difficulty setting. In any case, open the ini editor and take a look at the "Financial Settings" tab, you can set the mine income to x-percent of the vanilla setting. Whether this is completely savegame-comaptible, I can't say for sure, however.
Re: Mine Income too low?[message #332107] Fri, 02 May 2014 19:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gambigobilla

 
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Town loyalty affects mine income, you might need to increase loyalty for more money.
Re: Mine Income too low?[message #332108] Fri, 02 May 2014 19:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
dreamer2008

 
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Loyalty is 88% (the enemies recaptured the airport, but I will solve that soon). But even if it was 100% and I got let's say 2200, its still not very much. The difficulty is experienced.
Re: Mine Income too low?[message #332112] Fri, 02 May 2014 21:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
rummtata

 
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For me it's 8000 from the Drassen mine (100% loyalty). My ini setting 100% vanilla, so I guess your's is lower? I don't remember whether that was 'default' or if I've changed it, all I can tell you is that I play on "Expert" with a lot of values tweaked for my personal playstyle, and I have more than enough money Wink
Re: Mine Income too low?[message #332113] Fri, 02 May 2014 21:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
JMich

 
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(the enemies recaptured the airport, but I will solve that soon)

There's your problem. As I recall, the income is Base Income * Town Percentage Control * Town Loyalty. So if you own 2/3 sectors, then you only get 66% of base income, further modified by loyalty.
Still seems a bit low, so check how many of the sectors you actually control.
Re: Mine Income too low?[message #332114] Fri, 02 May 2014 21:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Flugente

 
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First, what JMich said. If your current mine income is 1900, you control 2/3 of the town and loyalty is 88%, then your total mine income will be about 3300$.

How much money a mine produces is randomised each campaign - see TableData/Scripts/initmines.lua. Basically, the Drassen mine max income per extraction (4 per day) is (1000 + x * 200)$. x depends on difficulty level and randomisation. This is rather troubling, however - your numbers indicate that the normal removal rate will be below 1000$. Which shouln't happen according to the script... Please check the numbers again.

An interesting side effect of that script is that if a mine's income is lower, then that of other mine's is higher. This means that in your case, other mines can be expected to yield more.

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Re: Mine Income too low?[message #332115] Fri, 02 May 2014 22:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
dreamer2008

 
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That explains it... Thank you for these details, didn't knew this mechanism. In the past I just captured the towns completely, then filled them with militia before moving on, and didn't notice this calculation.

A few enemies moved in the middle sector in Drassen as well, but didn't think of them as worth considering for a while, the airport and the mine sectors being the important ones.

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Re: Mine Income too low?[message #332141] Sat, 03 May 2014 13:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
dreamer2008

 
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Indeed, the mine income became 7200$ after recapturing the whole of Drassen. Now after I defeated the counter-attack (wow, that counter-attack was even more brutal than I remember it), its time to build my forces properly.
Re: Mine Income too low?[message #332142] Sat, 03 May 2014 13:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Azure_Repeater

 
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And if you like, you may increase MINE_INCOME_PERCENTAGE. During one of my campaigns, I set it to 650.
Re: Mine Income too low?[message #332153] Sat, 03 May 2014 19:57 Go to previous message
dreamer2008

 
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I might do that, but in another restart. It feels too much like cheating Razz .
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