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Can you describe the perfect I.M.P?[message #340970] Wed, 13 May 2015 09:46 Go to next message
dreamer2008

 
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I plan to start soon a new game, and its the time to think about making the perfect IMP again.

How was the most perfect IMP that you made?
Re: Can you describe the perfect I.M.P?[message #340973 is a reply to message #340970] Wed, 13 May 2015 13:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Slax

 
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Perfect for what? Gotta take the rest of the team into consideration if you're striving for perfection.



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Re: Can you describe the perfect I.M.P?[message #340974 is a reply to message #340973] Wed, 13 May 2015 15:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Zulu63

 
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I role play.
So I give max Wisdom then other stats to suit.
I kit him up with gear that's cool.
Sometimes it's the "best" gear. More often it's what I think is cool at the time. An Owen Gun for example.
Then, I hire a Team to supplement him.
This, to me, is perfect.
Re: Can you describe the perfect I.M.P?[message #340977 is a reply to message #340973] Wed, 13 May 2015 18:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
dreamer2008

 
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Slax wrote on Wed, 13 May 2015 12:49
Perfect for what? Gotta take the rest of the team into consideration if you're striving for perfection.


I personally always think about the IMP first, and then choose teammates that suit his skills happy .

Quite nice, Zulu, its good that you can role play. I'm more of a min-max kind of player, and I like to make the most damaging character usually.
Re: Can you describe the perfect I.M.P?[message #340978 is a reply to message #340977] Wed, 13 May 2015 20:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Slax

 
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Malicious snipers do work wonders.



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Re: Can you describe the perfect I.M.P?[message #340979 is a reply to message #340978] Wed, 13 May 2015 22:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
dreamer2008

 
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Slax wrote on Wed, 13 May 2015 19:13
Malicious snipers do work wonders.


True. I always made my IMP a sniper cheeky . Maybe this time it will be different, but don't know yet happy

Btw, I can never decide on this... For a Sniper, is it better to use Scout, Stealthy or NightOps? I always made my Sniper a teacher, but this time your Malicious Sniper made me want to play one again, and for maximum damage this time big grin .

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Re: Can you describe the perfect I.M.P?[message #340990 is a reply to message #340979] Fri, 15 May 2015 16:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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health-80,wisdom-80,strenght/agility-70,shooting skill around 50 points.. this is starting values for my imps in qrs ...

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Re: Can you describe the perfect I.M.P?[message #340993 is a reply to message #340979] Fri, 15 May 2015 19:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
M16AMachinegun

 
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dreamer2008 wrote on Wed, 13 May 2015 21:47
For a Sniper, is it better to use Scout, Stealthy or NightOps?



Scouting: You'll be able to see enemies from neighboring sectors. Also, you get decent bonuses to spotting.
Stealthy: Faster stealth-mode movement.
Night Ops: Better hearing in general, better hearing/vision/interrupts at night

Honestly, Scouting should be on a spotter, Stealthy should be on a CQB specialist, and Night Ops is only efficient in areas where your engagement range will be significantly lowered anyway.

I do highly recommend you at least get someone with Scouting, though, if only to prevent ambushes. It wont be needed too much anymore since Flugente got his 'improved ambushes' mod up and running, but still.

Oh, and Stealthy + Night Ops = fantastic low-light missions happy

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Can you describe the perfect I.M.P?

The perfect IMP has 100 protection, 100% coverage armor that grants him insane vision and accuracy bonuses, has every single trait, and is boring to play.

[Updated on: Fri, 15 May 2015 21:09]

Re: Can you describe the perfect I.M.P?[message #340995 is a reply to message #340993] Fri, 15 May 2015 20:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
silversurfer

 
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Night Ops is nice if you want to fight during day and night. You will need a second weapon for nights and daytime close range encounters. An SMG is a good choice. You may want to pick Bodybuilding instead of Night Ops to carry two guns and ammo without becoming overloaded.



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Re: Can you describe the perfect I.M.P?[message #341019 is a reply to message #340995] Sun, 17 May 2015 10:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
dreamer2008

 
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Very good advice, M16AMachinegun and silversurfer, thank you happy .

I honestly didn't think that scouting would have been good on the spotter, or that Bodybuilding would have been better than night ops.

Its time to restart the game in that case and experiment with these options happy

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Re: Can you describe the perfect I.M.P?[message #341027 is a reply to message #341019] Sun, 17 May 2015 17:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
deknegt

 
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Bodybuilding is a really REALLY useful trait for any merc to have.

The 25% damage resistance is one thing, but then the +30% carrying strength means that your weight stays low and also have maximum AP during fights. I've really came to love Bodybuilding after hiring Bull, who with 96 health and 98 strength is already a beast, but his bodybuilding meant he took even less damage during fights, perfect guy to check corners with.

Also scouting as has been said is perfect for spotters. Do remember that the first RPC has Scouting, Ira has that trait and other than being a mule she lacks expertise. So if you want a scout/spotter, you could also simply take Ira and reserve the IMP spot for someone that will add to the kill-tally.

One trait that gets overlooked is gunslinger/gunfighter, and even though people see it as a useless skill in late-game... If you keep your guy equipped with good powerful weapons he can be a devastating guy in close quarters. Pistols cost low AP, and ammo is cheaper and better manageable than other guns. It also improves pistol/revolver CTH and increases effective range too. I've given my IMP gunfighter, and gave him a match-sight with match ammo, and he can pick off people with relative ease in darkness where the advantages of long-range weapons are lessened.
Once people start wearing armor, just give your guy AP ammo or fancier more high tech stuff and he'll be able to keep up with the rest.
Really Really useful when you're a night-ops kind of player, because pistols are underrated during low-light ops.

Low weight, Ammo-efficient, and you can empty half a clip in one turn if you got the trait. My IMP and Meltdown are a lethal combination at night.
Re: Can you describe the perfect I.M.P?[message #341031 is a reply to message #341027] Sun, 17 May 2015 18:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
silversurfer

 
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deknegt wrote on Sun, 17 May 2015 16:37

One trait that gets overlooked is gunslinger/gunfighter, and even though people see it as a useless skill in late-game... If you keep your guy equipped with good powerful weapons he can be a devastating guy in close quarters.

Yes, I love my IMP gunfighter. I gave her two PP-93 which have a base range of 17. At the moment there is no better gun available. The trait adds 3 points so she has 20 tiles range with AP ammo. She hits reliably even outside that range. Added some laser pointers/LAM-200 and she can score double headshots when close enough. At the moment she has a lot more kills than any of the team except for my main sniper and her hit rate of 42% is pretty decent.



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Re: Can you describe the perfect I.M.P?[message #341039 is a reply to message #341031] Sun, 17 May 2015 22:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
dreamer2008

 
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True, gunfighter is good. I always hire Meltdown because of that happy . But for my IMP I want Power cheeky
Re: Can you describe the perfect I.M.P?[message #341230 is a reply to message #341039] Fri, 29 May 2015 15:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
M16AMachinegun

 
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Power, huh?

Well here's something to consider:

No merc in JA2 (regarding AFS and UC113 mods) have Athletics + Hand-to-hand/Martial Arts.

Reason I bring this up is that after tweaking the Skills_Settings.ini file a bit, I've found it DRASTICALLY effective to have this character simply run towards a group of enemies (no interrupts because H2H, fast cuz Ath.) and punch em out (higher power/less AP thanks to H2H). It generally takes two hits maximum for a high STR guy to knock em out, at least with my settings (i wont upload cuz i like my mercs OP as heck)

If you can get two or three guys to do this, you can have the entire sector cleared of enemies in five turns, plenty of time for the rest of your team to run up and stab/punch the dudes to gain strength/dexterity.
Re: Can you describe the perfect I.M.P?[message #341233 is a reply to message #341230] Fri, 29 May 2015 17:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
silversurfer

 
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You might as well use an electro shocker to take out an enemy instead of beating him down. One hit and he is flat on the ground. big grin



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Re: Can you describe the perfect I.M.P?[message #341244 is a reply to message #341233] Fri, 29 May 2015 23:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
deknegt

 
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So how do you prevent getting shot in the face when you run up to a group of enemies? Surely you can't punch them all in the face, and misses happen.

I don't want to knock your strategy because it's quite original, but it seems very random and unpredictable, and very save scummy.
Re: Can you describe the perfect I.M.P?[message #341245 is a reply to message #341244] Sat, 30 May 2015 00:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
M16AMachinegun

 
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I DID say i modded the crap out of my game and beefed up skill bonuses cheeky

Besides that, Suppression fire, Flashbangs, and so on would do you well enough to get close
Re: Can you describe the perfect I.M.P?[message #341255 is a reply to message #341245] Sat, 30 May 2015 10:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
silversurfer

 
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I don't use my martial arts guy to take down entire groups but he is very valuable to take out hard targets like those sniper bastards on roofs and watchtowers. He can climb up the roof, run to the enemy and hit him with an electro shocker before he has a chance to react. I'm playing with the improved interrupt system so the less AP I have to spend (because of athletics) the less chance the opponent has to get an interrupt.
Also if I'm close to an enemy already I can simply beat him down instead of wasting ammo on him. That's what rifle slings are for - to get the gun in the rifle slot without spending AP. happy



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Re: Can you describe the perfect I.M.P?[message #341359 is a reply to message #340970] Sat, 06 June 2015 15:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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My IMP usually is a squadleader, spotter with athletics
the perfect buffer to increase performance of the team.
Re: Can you describe the perfect I.M.P?[message #341368 is a reply to message #341255] Mon, 08 June 2015 06:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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silversurfer wrote on Sat, 30 May 2015 08:44
That's what rifle slings are for - to get the gun in the rifle slot without spending AP. happy

I take it you're playing with "inventory manipulation costs AP" on? Otherwise it doesn't cost anything.


To me the "perfect" merc is one whose drawbacks are covered by their teammates. I usually take at least 4 IMPs, one Deputy/Radioman, one Paramedic/Scout, one Technician/Demolitions and one Machinegunner/Ambidextrous. All other than the Machinegunner have Auto-weapons, all have 85 agility, marksmanship and dexterity, for the tech/medic ~60 in their pertinent skills, for the deputy ~60 leadership, all ~60 strength and ~70 wisdom. Between them they cover pretty much every essential role - You've got one who can make use of the radio and buffs his teammates (Though they usually catch up in experience), one who heals, doctors and gives intel, one who can blow or pick open doors & repair equipment and one who's all about the murder. They make up for their general lack of mobility due to low strength with their high marksmanship/dexterity stats which by the end of this run (day 147, 114 battles) are all around 93-97, and facilitate murder, especially when they have access to good assault rifles with 7x scopes. From there I can expand the team with MERCs(not likely)/AIMs to fill more specific roles, usually the first I recruit is Shadow who's also very good at murder.
Re: Can you describe the perfect I.M.P?[message #341369 is a reply to message #341368] Mon, 08 June 2015 08:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
silversurfer

 
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Morbo513 wrote on Mon, 08 June 2015 05:02

I take it you're playing with "inventory manipulation costs AP" on? Otherwise it doesn't cost anything.

Sure. Playing without it feels like cheating to me.



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Re: Can you describe the perfect I.M.P?[message #341554 is a reply to message #341369] Wed, 01 July 2015 00:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DC_da_big

 
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Perfect IMP is setting IMP limit to like 6-10 guys, squad size to 10 and starting a new game. Then make a dream-team in IMP. I made 6 IMP characters in 10 person squad and I hope to survive Drassen counter-attack without too many save-loads. I strongly believe one cannot survive it without save-load spamming, considering that one time I repelled this attack I had 48 red-shirts and 20 grey-shirts attacking from 3 directions. They chewed up 40 green militia I had.
There is an option of purchasing from BR many-many land mines, making many wire-traps. But there is a problem of money in the beginning of the game.

Drassen counter-attack is a real pain in the ass. Though I like to overcome it as I did with Iliych mod for Baldur's Gate 2, if you know what I mean. You could simply walk away from fight with Iliych company and escape dungeon. But defeating him and his company would get you about 1 million XP. They were really tough bastards... But I got my million XP happy

And after Drassen counter-attack you get ~65 weapons and half as many equipment pieces littering the battlefield. I have "drop all weapons" on. Makes very nice investment in Free Arulco cause.
Re: Can you describe the perfect I.M.P?[message #341710 is a reply to message #341554] Sun, 12 July 2015 17:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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There are multiple ways to deal with the counter attack.
The decent, non exploiting way, is to attack the adjacent sectors before the counter. That way you can kill them in packs of 15-20 instead of 40-60.

My favorite way is to camp 3 man behind the door of a windowless room and head shot them all. And shot the legs of the last one before you run out of APs

You can also just let them conquer it and then just face those 20 again.

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Re: Can you describe the perfect I.M.P?[message #341711 is a reply to message #341710] Sun, 12 July 2015 17:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Back on the topic.

I usualy make
an squad leader with scout or teaching,
an machine gunner for any 3 burst 556 rifle.
And a malicius sniper.

The machinegunner makes the most kills.
The sniper kills the badass black dudes.
The leader usualy supresses, stuns, buffs, and sometimes even kills.

I usualy get Ira for medic stuff and Maddog for repairs

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Re: Can you describe the perfect I.M.P?[message #343308 is a reply to message #341711] Mon, 23 November 2015 22:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
vinniec

 
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For my IMP I use stealth, nights ops and athletic. Intellectual for character and thief as background. The reason I do this choices is that I consider stealth the most tedious part of game and therefore prefer to have benefits on those aspects.
However I think that the best facility in the battle is know how to shoot, then sniper perhaps is the best choice.



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Re: Can you describe the perfect I.M.P?[message #343320 is a reply to message #343308] Tue, 24 November 2015 11:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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perfect IMP(s)?

bloody handicapted morons (male) and real sheWARRIORS to save the boys' asses

in WF6 I once had an IMP who died on his way to Arulco


it must be fun



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Re: Can you describe the perfect I.M.P?[message #343340 is a reply to message #343320] Wed, 25 November 2015 23:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
vinniec

 
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imp has less charisma because technically represents the player, is a topic debated in rpg genre, but I think it's justifiable to want only merc



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Re: Can you describe the perfect I.M.P?[message #343406 is a reply to message #343340] Sun, 06 December 2015 01:35 Go to previous message
ElYot_D_Idyot

 
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My favorite play through involves a solo ranger.

i gave him those stereotypical american hunting rifle (forgot the name), a sawed off shotgun, a cool looking old western style revolver and some rugged looking hunting clothes.

The game is about an unknown ranger trying to survive alone in a dictator country. He survived by doing night raids, killing soldiers and selling their items, ransacking houses, and practically just staying one step ahead of the authority who hunts him down like an animal.

He doesnt give a **** about anybody's crusade and will kill anyone he find interesting.


It became more like a hunting game. Spotting and stalking "high value quarries" for loots and notoriety (i know i sound like a serial killer now lol).

He is a hunter and the whole Arulco is his hunting ground. Its quite fun. The perfect IMP for me

This was in UC mod.

Sorry for my english.
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