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VENGEANCE: RELOADED Info, Hints and Tips[message #348219 is a reply to message #348249] Fri, 13 January 2017 15:06 Go to next message
Giffel
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Keep on topic, if you find a bug or something broken post it at: http://thepit.ja-galaxy-forum.com/index.php?t=msg&th=23258&goto=348281&#msg_348281 not here, thanks. Ed.


What LBE gear can store Crossbow bolts? I haven't found any gear that can store them and it would be a tedious process to try and find it in BR's. Sorry if this isn't the right place to ask.

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Re: VENGEANCE: RELOADED Info, Hints and Tips[message #348222 is a reply to message #348219] Fri, 13 January 2017 15:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
sevenfm

 
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Giffel wrote on Fri, 13 January 2017 18:06
What LBE gear can store Crossbow bolts? I haven't found any gear that can store them and it would be a tedious process to try and find it in BR's. Sorry if this isn't the right place to ask.

Quiver, available at coolness level 5 in BR shop.

[Updated on: Mon, 16 January 2017 23:07] by Moderator




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VENGEANCE: RELOADED Info, Hints and Tips[message #348249] Sat, 14 January 2017 02:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hawkeye

 
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Here we'll be posting more general info for playing the game, and some hints and tips. We won't be spoon-feeding you walk throughs or major spoilers so early with the release, so please also refrain from doing so.

Hopefully we can cover some of the more unique features and things like item usage.


Re: VENGEANCE: RELOADED Info, Hints and Tips[message #348256 is a reply to message #348249] Sat, 14 January 2017 08:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Giffel
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Im now at the point where i meet tanks. The problem is though, with the BR bug its impossible to get the necessary Heavy Weapons needed to deal with them. The only thing i have is a M97 grenade launcher, but i cant buy 40mm HE in BR's. Any ideas how to deal with them?
Re: VENGEANCE: RELOADED Info, Hints and Tips[message #348257 is a reply to message #348256] Sat, 14 January 2017 08:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
sevenfm

 
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Giffel wrote on Sat, 14 January 2017 11:42
Im now at the point where i meet tanks. The problem is though, with the BR bug its impossible to get the necessary Heavy Weapons needed to deal with them. The only thing i have is a M97 grenade launcher, but i cant buy 40mm HE in BR's. Any ideas how to deal with them?

You can buy heavy weapons from TNT.
Also, it's possible to kill tanks using smoke cover and some C1 since vanilla.



Stable 7609+fix (21.05.2017)
Stable 7609+AI (r415 29.04.2017)
Improved weapon sounds
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Re: VENGEANCE: RELOADED Info, Hints and Tips[message #348258 is a reply to message #348257] Sat, 14 January 2017 10:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hawkeye

 
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LAWs and other heavy weapons are also obtainable in some maps usually at military outposts or other persons in Arulco shipping weapons.


Re: VENGEANCE: RELOADED Info, Hints and Tips[message #348269 is a reply to message #348260] Sat, 14 January 2017 19:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
grim

 
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Does the sleeping bag serve a purpose in the mod ? Is there any bonus to sleep when you have one for example ?

Thank you guys for the amazing mod !
Re: VENGEANCE: RELOADED Info, Hints and Tips[message #348270 is a reply to message #348269] Sat, 14 January 2017 19:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
sevenfm

 
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Grim wrote on Sat, 14 January 2017 22:42
Does the sleeping bag serve a purpose in the mod ? Is there any bonus to sleep when you have one for example ?

Thank you guys for the amazing mod !

Yes, the same is in stock 1.13
<uiIndex>1709</uiIndex>
<szItemName>Sleeping bag</szItemName>
...
<SleepModifier>20</SleepModifier>



Stable 7609+fix (21.05.2017)
Stable 7609+AI (r415 29.04.2017)
Improved weapon sounds
Youtube channel


Re: VENGEANCE: RELOADED Info, Hints and Tips[message #348289 is a reply to message #348256] Sun, 15 January 2017 07:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Cerhio

 
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Giffel wrote on Sat, 14 January 2017 08:42
Im now at the point where i meet tanks. The problem is though, with the BR bug its impossible to get the necessary Heavy Weapons needed to deal with them. The only thing i have is a M97 grenade launcher, but i cant buy 40mm HE in BR's. Any ideas how to deal with them?


No LAWS or anything in the same sector? First time I encountered a tank I found a LAW, a m97 and some 40mms which were exactly enough to destroy it. I figured it was put there by design. If not then I got really lucky!
Re: VENGEANCE: RELOADED Info, Hints and Tips[message #348290 is a reply to message #348289] Sun, 15 January 2017 07:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Cerhio

 
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Can we start getting a list of storekeepers? I'm lucky I'm playing on Drop All because I can't seem to order anything besides HP ammo from BR.
Re: VENGEANCE: RELOADED Info, Hints and Tips[message #348294 is a reply to message #348290] Sun, 15 January 2017 08:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hawkeye

 
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Asked elsewhere:
Quote:

Could someone explain how the new driver system works? I always have a hard time figuring out how to put Skyrider as the pilot and it usually just happens by fluke.




New feature: Skyrider is a chopper pilot.

As in - you have to put him in helicopter for it to fly. He will then act as his non-PCM counterpart - ask for destination, inform you about danger, noticing enemies, etc. Monologues about SAMs, etc. will te told regardless if he's in heli or not.
You won't be able to put him to sleep or kick him out of chopper while it's in the air. If you fire him while it's up - he'll give you one last ride, to the nearest base. You also might reconsider making a trip with him if he's exhausted or drunk, or you'll finish you journey Jerry Melo-style.

Reasoning: Since you had to get him to helicopter to use it, it makes no sense for some faceless, nameless, mute pilot to automatically take over if you hire Skyrider as a merc.


Notes:
- When you fire Skyrider or get him killed, you're grounded. Just like if you would get him killed or fired during escort, except empty helicopter stays to mock you. Though you may be able to hire other pilots from somewhere.

- You can save mercs from the chopper crash if you dismiss them or change their assignement between Skyrider's "going down" quote and end of crash sound - ~3 seconds. Apparently they jump out of flaming chopper as it's falling down Surprised It's like that in 1.13, and probably vanilla too. Not sure if it's more exploit or a bug.


Re: VENGEANCE: RELOADED Info, Hints and Tips[message #348309 is a reply to message #348294] Mon, 16 January 2017 10:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Xafloz

 
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Considering „bull`s semen" quest...

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Re: VENGEANCE: RELOADED Info, Hints and Tips[message #348310 is a reply to message #348309] Mon, 16 January 2017 11:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Giffel
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Empty mortar shells? Can they be used and how?
Re: VENGEANCE: RELOADED Info, Hints and Tips[message #348322 is a reply to message #348310] Mon, 16 January 2017 22:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Scheinworld

 
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Hello Giffel,

Giffel wrote on Mon, 16 January 2017 10:07
Empty mortar shells? Can they be used and how?


Normally you should be able to build Molotov Bombs from Empty Mortar Shells (Alcohol-Oil Mix + Empty Mortar Shell = Molotov Bomb).
If that doesn't work it is probably another result of 7609 migration after that most of the items from the old VR item mod were not working.

Maybe we can fix and improve this in future beta version(s) of VR. The item mod is one of our biggest construction sites obviously. Thank you for your report.


Best regards; Schein...

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Re: VENGEANCE: RELOADED Info, Hints and Tips[message #348323 is a reply to message #348322] Mon, 16 January 2017 23:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
massiive

 
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can someone tell me where the rebel hideout is? I just fought at A8 and thought I found it :/
Re: VENGEANCE: RELOADED Info, Hints and Tips[message #348325 is a reply to message #348323] Tue, 17 January 2017 00:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Scheinworld

 
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Hello massiive,

massiive wrote on Mon, 16 January 2017 22:17
can someone tell me where the rebel hideout is? I just fought at A8 and thought I found it :/


Try it in a neighboring sector then. ;-)

@Hawk: Maybe we should add a second exit grid there? I really had to look for the exit to the basement myself.


Best regards; Schein...

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Re: VENGEANCE: RELOADED Info, Hints and Tips[message #348331 is a reply to message #348325] Tue, 17 January 2017 08:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
massiive

 
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The rebels I refer to are the ones that the Agency want me to seek out and find in close to the border/in the mountains, it's not the same right? The "original hideout" I did find even though it was a bit hard to see happy I also gave the note to the girl ;) (I liked that part!)
Re: VENGEANCE: RELOADED Info, Hints and Tips[message #348348 is a reply to message #348331] Tue, 17 January 2017 23:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Cerhio

 
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Damn I didn't realize you should do that. I'll have to do then when I restart with the next release.
Re: VENGEANCE: RELOADED Info, Hints and Tips[message #348372 is a reply to message #348348] Fri, 20 January 2017 06:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hawkeye

 
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If all else fails, consider what you might have done in Vanilla. Remember Vengeance was one of the oldest mods before we got hold of it, and despite all what we've added or changed there is still a fair slice of Vanilla JA still present. We did want to remove all vanilla quests and suggest the storyline and time has moved on from the original JA2, but quests are some of the trickiest things to create and implement.


Re: VENGEANCE: RELOADED Info, Hints and Tips[message #348382 is a reply to message #348372] Fri, 20 January 2017 19:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
grim

 
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I took Alma, and noticed the headquarter doesn't have the facility assignment "command militia". I was surprised because the game is based on 7609 while the feature was implemented in 6943. I tried to add the assignment to the facility but launching the game it crashed because it doesn't exist for him.
Was it cut short because of some mod features like the existing militia all around the place?
Re: VENGEANCE: RELOADED Info, Hints and Tips[message #348384 is a reply to message #348382] Fri, 20 January 2017 19:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
sevenfm

 
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grim wrote on Fri, 20 January 2017 22:36
I took Alma, and noticed the headquarter doesn't have the facility assignment "command militia". I was surprised because the game is based on 7609 while the feature was implemented in 6943. I tried to add the assignment to the facility but launching the game it crashed because it doesn't exist for him.
Was it cut short because of some mod features like the existing militia all around the place?

No strategic militia command or other features from main trunk in stable 7609.
From stable 7609 svn:
Quote:
r6749
Created new branch for the official 2014 release
- Based on development trunk rev. 6748
https://ja2svn.no-ip.org/source/ja2/trunk/GameSource/ja2_v1.13
- This branch should only contain bugfixes



Stable 7609+fix (21.05.2017)
Stable 7609+AI (r415 29.04.2017)
Improved weapon sounds
Youtube channel


Re: VENGEANCE: RELOADED Info, Hints and Tips[message #348386 is a reply to message #348384] Fri, 20 January 2017 20:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
grim

 
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Thank you for the answer sevenfm, i missed or forgot it was a different branch incremented. My fault.
Re: VENGEANCE: RELOADED Info, Hints and Tips[message #348407 is a reply to message #348386] Sat, 21 January 2017 23:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
massiive

 
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I have some questions regarding Carmen's (?) hit list.

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I'm still looking for the other rebel hideout that the agency wants me to pay a visit. Would love to get a hint or tip regarding that.
Re: VENGEANCE: RELOADED Info, Hints and Tips[message #348415 is a reply to message #348407] Sun, 22 January 2017 02:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hawkeye

 
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massiive wrote on Sun, 22 January 2017 08:24
I have some questions regarding Carmen's (?) hit list.

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I'm still looking for the other rebel hideout that the agency wants me to pay a visit. Would love to get a hint or tip regarding that.


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Re: VENGEANCE: RELOADED Info, Hints and Tips[message #348416 is a reply to message #348415] Sun, 22 January 2017 10:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
massiive

 
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Thank you big grin
Re: VENGEANCE: RELOADED Info, Hints and Tips[message #348725 is a reply to message #348416] Mon, 06 February 2017 09:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Xafloz

 
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Considering SCUD bombardment.
Is there a way to disable it? As it is very cool at start it become very annoying when you fight in the same sector many times.
Re: VENGEANCE: RELOADED Info, Hints and Tips[message #348752 is a reply to message #348725] Wed, 08 February 2017 12:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Xafloz

 
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Anybody about scuds?

Another question: where I can obtain MORE ammo for rail gun?
Re: VENGEANCE: RELOADED Info, Hints and Tips[message #348764 is a reply to message #348752] Thu, 09 February 2017 02:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Scheinworld

 
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Hello Xafloz and all,

Sorry for late response. We are just a small team with not much time, but you can be sure we read all your posts and try to fix and improve VR in next beta(s)!

Xafloz wrote on Mon, 06 February 2017 08:25
Considering SCUD bombardment.
Is there a way to disable it? As it is very cool at start it become very annoying when you fight in the same sector many times.


Once activated I don't think it can be disabled again, but Sevenfm surely much better can answer, because he is VR project coder. Anv unfortunately is not active anymore. Only found his statement in our VR developer forum:

anv wrote on Fri, 30 October 2015 21:44
For special artillery strike all credits go to sevenfm who actually figured out that we can use artillery for that. Currently code consists of bunch of ugly hacks, but should work fine and be reusable for any other map/triggers. If you think balancing is off in any way (too many/not enough missiles, too wide/narrow range) it can be adjusted too.



Xafloz wrote on Wed, 08 February 2017 11:47
Another question: where I can obtain MORE ammo for rail gun?


Yeah. You are right. The ammo for the railgun is missing. Always had a character/little quest in mind for getting more ammo, but time didn't permit to implement this (as many other things/ideas).
Well, we definitely have to add/hide some ammo for the railgun in some places in future VR version(s). At the moment I'm afraid you won't get/find more ammo. Sorry.
Please continue to post any bugs and/or mod experiences. This helps and motivates us. Thank you!


Best regards; Schein...

[Updated on: Thu, 09 February 2017 02:20]




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Re: VENGEANCE: RELOADED Info, Hints and Tips[message #348766 is a reply to message #348764] Thu, 09 February 2017 04:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hawkeye

 
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It was also originally discussed that due to the Rail gun being so powerful, and accessible early on in the game that you would be limited to the ammo it comes with due to balancing. Sort of a use it up once and you're done. Enjoy it while it lasts.


Re: VENGEANCE: RELOADED Info, Hints and Tips[message #348767 is a reply to message #348249] Thu, 09 February 2017 09:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Xafloz

 
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Precisely I found the gun loaded with 4 rounds out of 1 possible ;) and 4 spare magazines, each one round. So 8 shots in sum...

BTW Playing INSANE..... so no amount of ammo for the sniper could unbalance it...

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Re: VENGEANCE: RELOADED Info, Hints and Tips[message #348829 is a reply to message #348767] Sun, 12 February 2017 12:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Xafloz

 
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Have bee looking for Shank in order to get fuel from Estoni. No luck so far. Is he still present in the mod? Or is there another way to buy fuel somewhere?
(love fuel based bombs...)
Re: VENGEANCE: RELOADED Info, Hints and Tips[message #348830 is a reply to message #348249] Sun, 12 February 2017 16:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Infinet

 
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I looked up into the mercprofiles.xml and i got this line:

<sSectorX>9</sSectorX>
<sSectorY>65520</sSectorY>
<sSectorZ>1</sSectorZ>

It seems like the line "<sSectorY>65520</sSectorY>" is scuffed but i dont know. I didnt find him either.

Right now i liberated Doran, Alma, Oronegro, Salinas & Drassen and found 19 Mercs (including the roboter and my IMP) which can be recruited. I didnt found Shank so far and TNT seems like to travel across the bars.

Can we get like an MERCS list which can be recruited? Im curious right now who i overlooked so far shy
Re: VENGEANCE: RELOADED Info, Hints and Tips[message #348832 is a reply to message #348830] Sun, 12 February 2017 18:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Xafloz

 
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Infinet wrote on Sun, 12 February 2017 16:24
found 19 Mercs (including the roboter and my IMP) which can be recruited.


Including Natsuko? I gave her what should be given to her but received only unimportant item in exchange. No luck recruiting her.
Re: VENGEANCE: RELOADED Info, Hints and Tips[message #348834 is a reply to message #348832] Sun, 12 February 2017 20:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Scheinworld

 
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Hi guys,

Thank you for your feedback!

Xafloz wrote on Sun, 12 February 2017 11:57
Have bee looking for Shank in order to get fuel from Estoni. No luck so far. Is he still present in the mod? Or is there another way to buy fuel somewhere?
(love fuel based bombs...)


Infinet wrote on Sun, 12 February 2017 15:24
It seems like the line "<sSectorY>65520</sSectorY>" is scuffed but i dont know. I didnt find him either.


Regarding Shank this is not a bug. Shank is not presented in VR anymore, but don't worry there is another way to get fuel in Estoni.
We will see fuel based bombs in one of the next VR betas for sure! They were presented and working in the former item mod of VR, but are currently broken.

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Infinet wrote on Sun, 12 February 2017 15:24
found 19 Mercs (including the roboter and my IMP) which can be recruited.

Can we get like an MERCS list which can be recruited? Im curious right now who i overlooked so far shy


I don't want to publish a list right now. This would kill the surprise effect for many new VR mod players. Just a little hint in the following spoiler.

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Xafloz wrote on Sun, 12 February 2017 17:04
Including Natsuko? I gave her what should be given to her but received only unimportant item in exchange. No luck recruiting her.


No. Natsuko is a NPC only and can not be recruited.

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Best regards; Schein...

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Re: VENGEANCE: RELOADED Info, Hints and Tips[message #348836 is a reply to message #348834] Sun, 12 February 2017 23:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Infinet

 
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Oh ok i just wondered that he was in the Mercprofile haha

Thanks for the hint ;) Some i did noticed some are new.
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Re: VENGEANCE: RELOADED Info, Hints and Tips[message #348839 is a reply to message #348836] Mon, 13 February 2017 09:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Xafloz

 
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Considering Maria...

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Re: VENGEANCE: RELOADED Info, Hints and Tips[message #348858 is a reply to message #348839] Tue, 14 February 2017 13:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
seaurchinhead
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Hello! I'm very sorry about a newbie question but it seems like I can't find where this 'TNT' is. I first thought maybe it was Tony's place but Tony didn't really have much weapons on himself unlike vanilla 1.13 so I guess it's a different place?
Re: VENGEANCE: RELOADED Info, Hints and Tips[message #348859 is a reply to message #348858] Tue, 14 February 2017 16:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Xafloz

 
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TNT

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Tony indeed has miserable stockpile of weapons and especially ammo, but maybe it is connected with difficulty level.

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Re: VENGEANCE: RELOADED Info, Hints and Tips[message #348861 is a reply to message #348859] Tue, 14 February 2017 17:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Infinet

 
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TNT
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About Maria
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Hey, thank you for the answers! I guess it was right for me to play with 'drop all weapon' option haha. While it's a fun feature that
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I guess I'm not too fond of buying weapons depending on luck. Or maybe I'm too used to using Bobby Ray's.
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