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Looking for unconventional Skyrider fix[message #339519] Thu, 19 February 2015 23:43 Go to next message
Marius

 
Messages:29
Registered:February 2011
Location: Norway
I made the mistake of starting my current game with the thing where Skyrider has to spend time refueling before being able to fly again. The thing is that he refuses to refuel. I searched around a bit and found in an old topic that this may happen if he's manually directed to fly back to base. So the solution should be just to send him out, let him hover and then head back on his own, but he can't be sent away since he has exactly 0 units of fuel. When I look at Drassen airport in tactical view his chopper isn't actually parked which makes me think he's stuck in "midair limbo" so to speak.

Since turning off the alternate fuel system thingie in the .ini doesn't work, I'm hoping there's some .xml file I can crack open and set all fuel costs to zero. Or a cheat to damage his chopper to force him to land. Or some way of resetting him. Or something. Any ideas?

It's getting quite tedious having one squad walk everywhere while the other has to stop to tank up the icecream truck every hour...
Re: Looking for unconventional Skyrider fix[message #339553 is a reply to message #339519] Sat, 21 February 2015 14:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
JA2 Fanatic

 
Messages:41
Registered:February 2005
Location: Vienna/austria
lol had almost the same, i had him kinda stuck with no fuel on the airport tile. he was on the airport, i could select him and all, but he was not "in" the sectors same with the chopper, it was not parked on the helipad.

i turned the refuel system off but skyrider still wanted to refuel and he used fuel in flight but he couldnt refuel as it was turned off. i couldnt fix it mid game, i had to load back a few hours playtime, if he has fuel to get back to the fuel depot, he will refuel and you can get it working, but if hes out of fuel and away from the depot you need to go back to where he has fuel.

i had to allow the refuel in the ini and load back.
Re: Looking for unconventional Skyrider fix[message #339677 is a reply to message #339519] Thu, 26 February 2015 15:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
easterngames

 
Messages:28
Registered:April 2011
Location: Pennsylvania , USA
I don't think this a problem with the refuel option. I have had it happen to me before that system was implemented. Doesn't happen every game, but about one in five or so. Game has always had a few bugs like that that made using all the savegame slots advisable. Only way to fix it to reload to a game before the helicopter left, least as far as I have ever been able to figure out. I got now where I always save a game before the helicopter is given any order.
Re: Looking for unconventional Skyrider fix[message #339680 is a reply to message #339677] Thu, 26 February 2015 18:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
silversurfer

 
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Registered:May 2009
Actually there are some bugs in the refueling system that I'm currently investigating. I started my game with ALTERNATIVE_HELICOPTER_FUEL_SYSTEM = FALSE and Skyrider refuses to refuel at all. He has almost no fuel left and is sitting at the airport.

edit: In r7754 I fixed some parameters that were read incorrectly at game start. Also the heli will now instantly refuel when arriving at a refuel site as long as the alternative refuel system is off.

[Updated on: Thu, 26 February 2015 19:15]




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Re: Looking for unconventional Skyrider fix[message #339693 is a reply to message #339680] Fri, 27 February 2015 09:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Marius

 
Messages:29
Registered:February 2011
Location: Norway
silversurfer wrote on Thu, 26 February 2015 17:33
edit: In r7754 I fixed some parameters that were read incorrectly at game start. Also the heli will now instantly refuel when arriving at a refuel site as long as the alternative refuel system is off.

Something to look forward to then. Currently my plan has been to let Deidranna's forces take over the NE SAM and blast him a bit, but they're not that interested in taking it unfortunately. Good to see it isn't just me who had messed things up somehow.



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Re: Looking for unconventional Skyrider fix[message #341935 is a reply to message #339693] Sun, 02 August 2015 21:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
LoTeK_
Messages:8
Registered:December 2013
Location: Italy
This bug is really frustrating, just started over the second game and I have it again. Not going to get another up, it's not easy to start it until skyrider is found on extremely hard ini configs.
Happened near midgame in first playthrough with the new fuel system enabled (which is really cool btw) and at start in the second with the option disabled.
I know its subjective but for me on insane custom difficulty the heli not working is a huge problem since I can't resupply in time the forces fighting at the "front" to blast off Deidranna massive counterattacks suprised and other utility things like closing quests without becoming mad at searching dudes in the right bar on foot..humvee it's not the same since it's exposed to ground threats, even tried to. Tried to complete the game without skydude but failed out of frustration on one of those counterattacks with only throwing knives left.
Bug has been reported on feb and we're in august now, last release is an year old by now and no new releases yet it seems.
Would you perhaps consider releasing a temp fix of some sort for this, for all those like me who dont have access to svn but would like to enjoy the game?
Or maybe if it's free please give access to it, I tried searching around the forums but wasnt able to find any info on how to get updates.
Love the game and 1.13!

[Updated on: Sun, 02 August 2015 21:51]

Re: Looking for unconventional Skyrider fix[message #341937 is a reply to message #341935] Sun, 02 August 2015 22:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Franimus

 
Messages:43
Registered:June 2015
Location: USA
For the latest fixes, I found regular dev builds are uploaded onto the OneDrive site. Sorry I can't post the link since I don't have 10 forum posts yet, but you can search the forum for the thread or maybe someone else can post the direct link.
Normal disclaimer regarding these being the dev branch and not official stable releases.
Re: Looking for unconventional Skyrider fix[message #341949 is a reply to message #341937] Tue, 04 August 2015 03:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
LoTeK_
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Registered:December 2013
Location: Italy
Found it, thanks!
Re: Looking for unconventional Skyrider fix[message #349583 is a reply to message #339519] Thu, 20 April 2017 02:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Glamourishous
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Registered:April 2017
I am not sure what version mine is, however it is downloaded from Gog.com and on a MacBook currently. I just have experi need this bug. Also, after reading the forums and loading the game back up it now crashes a couple hours of game time later. It doesn't seem to matter whether I'm traveling or training, but the game is crashing. I saw on here some save file fixes. Are those things still available? I have found the hidden library folder as well. Thanks to the forum here.

EDIT) I have the Gold edition 1.12. How do I apply the links here? Do I need to repair my save file?

[Updated on: Thu, 20 April 2017 22:36]

Re: Looking for unconventional Skyrider fix[message #349589 is a reply to message #349583] Fri, 21 April 2017 01:32 Go to previous message
TrentL

 
Messages:68
Registered:February 2015
Location: United States
Check out this thread. There's also a download repository link.

Installation is pretty simple, download the latest build from the onedrive repository and unzip over your game folder. (Make a backup of that folder, doesn't hurt)

http://thepit.ja-galaxy-forum.com/index.php?t=msg&th=20380&prevloaded=1&&start=0

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