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How disable reinforcements ?[message #360156] Tue, 26 May 2020 22:21 Go to next message
RedFaction

 
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Hey,

I decided to give a try at AR+SDO+AI.

I set ALLOW_REINFORCEMENTS = FALSE in my Ja2_Options.INI but there are still reinforcements between sectors.

How do you disable them for good ?
Re: How disable reinforcements ?[message #360157 is a reply to message #360156] Tue, 26 May 2020 22:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
sevenfm

 
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RedFaction wrote on Wed, 27 May 2020 00:21
Hey,
I decided to give a try at AR+SDO+AI.
Which lives in another thread.

Quote:
I set ALLOW_REINFORCEMENTS = FALSE in my Ja2_Options.INI but there are still reinforcements between sectors.
How do you disable them for good ?
Try TACTICAL_REINFORCEMENTS = FALSE
And read the mod docs in the docs folder, this version is very different from stock 1.13.



7609+AI (r1792) | Experimental project | Unofficial Modpack | Youtube | Trunk (r8916) | 1.13 Starter Docs | 1.13 How to get

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Re: How disable reinforcements ?[message #360158 is a reply to message #360157] Tue, 26 May 2020 23:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
RedFaction

 
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Hey sevenfm happy , good to see you are still here and thank you for your commitment over the year.

sevenfm wrote on Tue, 26 May 2020 22:37

Which lives in another thread.
I may be wrong but I thought this issue was not related to AR, SDO or AI.
I used to play 1.13 without those mods in the past and I used to see this setting.

sevenfm wrote on Tue, 26 May 2020 22:37

Try TACTICAL_REINFORCEMENTS = FALSE
I don't have such setting. Should I add it ?

sevenfm wrote on Tue, 26 May 2020 22:37

And read the mod docs in the docs folder, this version is very different from stock 1.13.
I just did it again but I didn't find anything talking about this setting.
Could you please tell me which doc specifically ?
Re: How disable reinforcements ?[message #360159 is a reply to message #360158] Tue, 26 May 2020 23:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
sevenfm

 
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new options.txt



7609+AI (r1792) | Experimental project | Unofficial Modpack | Youtube | Trunk (r8916) | 1.13 Starter Docs | 1.13 How to get

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Re: How disable reinforcements ?[message #360160 is a reply to message #360159] Tue, 26 May 2020 23:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
RedFaction

 
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sevenfm wrote on Tue, 26 May 2020 23:05
new options.txt
I don't have such file.

Here is the install I did :

- Official installer
- JA2_113_FullRelease_English_7435.exe
- JA2_113_UpdateForRelease7435_English_7609.exe
- Unpack 7609en+Modpack.7z in game folder
- Running ja2_7609en+AI_r1528.exe

Did I miss a step ?
Re: How disable reinforcements ?[message #360161 is a reply to message #360160] Tue, 26 May 2020 23:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
sevenfm

 
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RedFaction wrote on Wed, 27 May 2020 01:21
I don't have such file.
It's on google drive.

Quote:
Here is the install I did :

- Official installer
- JA2_113_FullRelease_English_7435.exe
- JA2_113_UpdateForRelease7435_English_7609.exe
- Unpack 7609en+Modpack.7z in game folder
- Running ja2_7609en+AI_r1528.exe

Did I miss a step ?
You messed the install completely. There is detailed instruction how to use modpack.



7609+AI (r1792) | Experimental project | Unofficial Modpack | Youtube | Trunk (r8916) | 1.13 Starter Docs | 1.13 How to get

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Re: How disable reinforcements ?[message #360162 is a reply to message #360161] Tue, 26 May 2020 23:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
RedFaction

 
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sevenfm wrote on Tue, 26 May 2020 23:24

You messed the install completely. There is detailed instruction how to use modpack.
speechless

This is what I read from your readme.txt :

Quote:

1. Make a clean install of vanilla Jagged Alliance 2
2. Unpack 7609en+Modpack.7z into game folder
3. Select mod from Ja2.ini or use INI Editor to select mod and screen resolution
4. Run Ja2.exe or Ja2+AI.exe
This is what I did. What's wrong ?
Re: How disable reinforcements ?[message #360163 is a reply to message #360162] Tue, 26 May 2020 23:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
sevenfm

 
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RedFaction wrote on Wed, 27 May 2020 01:31
What's wrong ?
Quote:
- JA2_113_FullRelease_English_7435.exe
- JA2_113_UpdateForRelease7435_English_7609.exe
The modpack readme clearly says you need to install only vanilla game and then modpack, it never says anything about installing 7435 or 7609, why it's so hard to just read and follow instructions?



7609+AI (r1792) | Experimental project | Unofficial Modpack | Youtube | Trunk (r8916) | 1.13 Starter Docs | 1.13 How to get

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Re: How disable reinforcements ?[message #360166 is a reply to message #360163] Wed, 27 May 2020 00:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
RedFaction

 
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sevenfm wrote on Tue, 26 May 2020 23:36
why it's so hard to just read and follow instructions?

Seriously ? This question ? Maybe, just maybe, a decade of modding content with so many possibilities, features, documents and wiki to read made the installation process a little bit tricky.

Maybe the revision number in 7609en+Modpack.7z would make someone think that it requires the 7609 revision.

But no let's say I'm just blunt stupid and your instructions were perfect. Very cool attitude.
Re: How disable reinforcements ?[message #360180 is a reply to message #360166] Thu, 28 May 2020 17:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DavitW
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He's definitely not what you would call a peoples person.
Re: How disable reinforcements ?[message #360198 is a reply to message #360180] Sat, 30 May 2020 07:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hawkeye

 
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Really? That's a great way to start your posting history, Davit.

Maybe it just gets very frustrating spending a long, long time creating or fixing a mod and then players eating up more time because they didn't read the installation instructions.

And yes, there's a ton-load of mods and installations out there, over the years, and perhaps not all here are typing in their native language. Sometimes things come across harsher online than the spoken word, so let's all chill out.



Re: How disable reinforcements ?[message #360222 is a reply to message #360198] Sun, 31 May 2020 05:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DavitW
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Now I didn't mean to cause any drama, Nobody seemed angry to me but perhaps a bit rude and I felt that wasn't a way you should treat someone who was apparently a long time fan of the project. Now I don't believe his question has been properly answered yet though so I believe in order to disable reinforcements you have to go into the difficulty Settings xml file in the 1.13 Table Data folder and disable reinforcements under the specific difficulty you want to play, I believe allow reinforcements in the ini file only effects allied militia in cities though I'm not sure as this can all be very confusing for a regular joe like you and me, While the modders here all understand easy so that's why they may think we're a bit dense and their words come across as more hostile than intended.
Re: How disable reinforcements ?[message #360224 is a reply to message #360222] Sun, 31 May 2020 07:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
sevenfm

 
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DavitW wrote on Sun, 31 May 2020 07:10
I believe in order to disable reinforcements you have to go into the difficulty Settings xml file in the 1.13 Table Data folder and disable reinforcements under the specific difficulty you want to play
This is true for unstable versions, not for 7609 which original poster was asking for.

Quote:
I believe allow reinforcements in the ini file only effects allied militia in cities
There is no "ALLOW_REINFORCEMENTS" option ja2_options.ini in unstable versions, and in stable 7609 it doesn't work as you described.

The original poster was given correct and complete answer in the first reply to his question.



7609+AI (r1792) | Experimental project | Unofficial Modpack | Youtube | Trunk (r8916) | 1.13 Starter Docs | 1.13 How to get

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Re: How disable reinforcements ?[message #360308 is a reply to message #360224] Sun, 07 June 2020 19:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
RedFaction

 
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So far it seems that reinforcements are off but it looks like the simultaneous town sector attacks are still on.

I just got 28 enemies to deal with at the same time defending Cambria. They were 14 in the strategic view and immediatly 28 once in tactical.

My settings are :
MAX_NUMBER_ENEMIES_IN_TACTICAL = 16
MAX_STRATEGIC_ENEMY_GROUP_SIZE = 20
AGGRESSIVE_STRATEGIC_AI = 0

But it looks like it's ignored or maybe there is another setting involved.

At the end I was forced to bunker in a room waiting to take them down one by one, savescumming every time I got hit because I still didn't find any med kit in the game so far.


[Updated on: Sun, 07 June 2020 19:04]

Re: How disable reinforcements ?[message #360337 is a reply to message #360156] Wed, 10 June 2020 23:13 Go to previous message
RedFaction

 
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Well in case someone else has the issue : even TACTICAL_REINFORCEMENTS = FALSE doesn't change a thing.

I just got attacked in Cambria's mine against 58 ennemies... not even playable since every turn takes ages.

So to sum up all those settings seem completely ignored :

ALLOW_REINFORCEMENTS = FALSE
TACTICAL_REINFORCEMENTS = FALSE
MAX_NUMBER_ENEMIES_IN_TACTICAL = 16
MAX_STRATEGIC_ENEMY_GROUP_SIZE = 20
AGGRESSIVE_STRATEGIC_AI = 0

Too bad.

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