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Re: 1.13 April 2007 map contest[message #146505] Mon, 25 June 2007 03:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Marlboro Man

 
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I seem to be having a CTD problem with the ITEMS tab. Either it CTD's when I click on it or not long afterwards when I am in it. Anyone else having this problem? Or is it the luck of the draw.

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Re: 1.13 April 2007 map contest[message #146533] Mon, 25 June 2007 10:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
shed23 is currently offline shed23

 
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I am not sure on this, and could be well off base here, but I think that some of the latest builds are to blame. If I am wrong here, sincere apologies.

I am still working on an older build - 742 - and have no problems at all. I tend to wait for good stability before up-grades. Can get frustrating modding otherwise.

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Re: 1.13 April 2007 map contest[message #146577] Mon, 25 June 2007 15:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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speaking of map editor crashes...i had decided to give map making a whirl the other day..was making a small weapons stash but large garrison with mess hall(attempt) barracks and store room with the stash..the perimeter of the map has 3 small entrances east west and south as it was tween omerta and drassen along the top..and the team could only enter through those small entrances a dirt road wide as the rest is blocked off by trees..the road leads to a center fortified circle made up of sandbag formations and a full squad of elites awaits hidden behinf those bags and apon the roof's of the 3 buildings..ok..enough description..you get the idea..well..after each building construction i'd save..and after the 3rd building the map editor always crashed..so i tried without the 3rd building and went onto the sandbags and it would crash..i eventually gave up cause it would always crash..i'm not introducing any new graphics or stuff..using only what the map editor provides..BAH..it frustrated me so i gave up and went back to guns Very Happy

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Re: 1.13 April 2007 map contest[message #146693] Tue, 26 June 2007 00:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sometimes it will refuse to save a map or crash if you place too many items (or some conflicting tiles) too close to each other.


Try spacing out your cashes and see what happens.

You should also make sure the ground is completely clear especially or debris before trying to place a building on top. You can usually add anything yo like once you place the building but be careful to have a clean ground to place your building on.

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Re: 1.13 April 2007 map contest[message #146695] Tue, 26 June 2007 00:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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yup..the buildings were first thing placed..details added later

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Re: 1.13 April 2007 map contest[message #146878] Tue, 26 June 2007 20:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Majek is currently offline Majek

 
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hey tbird have you tried the editor with DBB items?

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Re: 1.13 April 2007 map contest[message #146881] Tue, 26 June 2007 20:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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a bit..works fine if you tinker and alter..but still have alot of crashing when creating from scratch

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Re: 1.13 April 2007 map contest[message #146931] Wed, 27 June 2007 05:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Marlboro Man

 
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Hmmmmm. Items tab is still not working for me. Everything else though seems pretty stable. Gettin the hang of it some now.

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Re: 1.13 April 2007 map contest[message #147229] Thu, 28 June 2007 21:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Nighthawk is currently offline Nighthawk

 
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Marlboro Man: My map editor used to crash when clicking the items tab so here's what I did:

I set the map editor to point to the Data-1.13 folder because that's where all the new image pic .sti's are ( all weapons and gear added). I still create a maps folder for both Data and Data-1.13 and put all extracted original maps into Data. The editor I believe loads from Data if no map is in Data-1.13. My new/altered ones end up in Data-1.13/Maps.

Good idea from Shed for everyone: Copy/paste anything recently worked on in editor to seperate folder on desktop just in case!!!

I've been away for awhile but my job situation is stable again. Is there a new map editor or game release lately? I'll check it out.

I meant from the official release page. It's still got version 687 on it.

I've been reading the release notes and all the new stuff put in is great. The version # is in the 900's now. Hopefully a new release for us non-svn users will be out soon.

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Re: 1.13 April 2007 map contest[message #150022] Fri, 20 July 2007 19:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ah shed23,

There I was, gushing with thanks to you for a whole new world to explore, flushed with anticipation. And then on the very first map I find a stash containing all the best equipment in the game, enough to outfit seven mercs. #$%@!!!

Half of the enjoyment of JA2, at least for me, is slowly managing to equip your mercs with that 'best equipment' over the course of the game. When it is all handed to us at the start, it is NOT a good thing. We don't go "Whoopie!", we go "#$%@!!!"

Sure I could mod the map or just 'somehow' avoid the temptation to use everything given, but then if I find this on map #1, I fully expect myself to be none the less insanely equipped by map #4 none the less. All that work on your part, all that excitement on mine, and I shall delete the whole thing.

Edit: I loaded it up again so as to check the next map and sure enough, there's a trove right at the entry point with enough goodies to completely max out 11 more mercs, right to multishot grenade launchers with plenty of thermobaric ammo!

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Re: 1.13 April 2007 map contest[message #150026] Fri, 20 July 2007 20:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Khor1255 is currently offline Khor1255

 
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Don't do that. I'm sure someone has a fixed set. I'll bet Shed himself would provide such a map set.

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Re: 1.13 April 2007 map contest[message #150367] Mon, 23 July 2007 00:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
shed23 is currently offline shed23

 
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That map set, as described in the notes/posting somewhere, was made for my son, at his request. He wanted the best gear for Insane mode play, with little or no need for mine income etc....

Essentially, this was released for the maps alone.
In all honesty, I forgot about the weapons etc....
This is what happens, for me, when you cannot fully realize your ideas and start something new.
If I remember right, I did say 'released as-is' or something!!

Sorry for any misconceptions here.

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Re: 1.13 April 2007 map contest[message #150581] Tue, 24 July 2007 21:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Nighthawk is currently offline Nighthawk

 
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On Insane mode you have to have the best equipment either put on the maps or available at a stocked Bobby Ray's with lots of Ctrl+Gabbi money added. On Experienced mode I set BR to normal and only put in starting weapons and assorted items (tool kit, medical/firstaid/boost items, right ammo, NVG1.)

I just got the 1080 download and the new map editor. Time to create more maps and make them available.

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Re: 1.13 April 2007 map contest[message #150607] Wed, 25 July 2007 03:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Marlboro Man

 
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That's good news John. Smile I have been so tied up with real life crap lately, I can't even find the time to fire the game up. Let alone mess with the map editor. But hopefully I will be able too soon. Smile

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Re: 1.13 April 2007 map contest[message #151105] Sun, 29 July 2007 22:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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John Wright: Are you working on your own maps? Or are you modifying existing ones? I ask, because I like the maps of Azazel and shed23, but since azazel changed only a few sectors, and shed23 did include too much items in all of his maps, I don't like to use them. I use azazels maps right now, but I wish, more sectors would have been changed. Shed23's maps would be perfect, if it wasn't for all those items you find.

So what are you up to exactly John Wright?

EDIT: I'd change shed23's maps myself (remove items), but since whenever I try to start the map editor, the game starts (not an editor) I can't do it...

BTW Azazel, and shed: very good work! congrats on your fantastic maps!

Sidenote to shed: I could kick you in the nuts for "ruining" your maps with your item placement (just kidding Smile )

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Re: 1.13 April 2007 map contest[message #151202] Mon, 30 July 2007 23:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
shed23 is currently offline shed23

 
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Mailor.

I can understand the wish to do violence - I would in this position.
However, initially, these maps did not contain such item placement, the mines did not exist, Skyrider did not exist. There were three additional quests, over and above the 'escort and chalice' which were kept in. The three additional quests were tied into certain areas that were mines. No allowance was made for Sci-Fi though.

Although my fault for not checking, imagine how I felt when I realized that areas of the strategic map were not available. Importantly, the bottom right hand side was crucial to a major quest - the very area unavailable. It appears, that this will not be addressed any time soon.
Now, bear in mind that this mod of mine has been going since the use of the UB Editor, converted, adjusted, altered, tweaked, all in-line with the development of 113. It has been a labour of love over more years than I care to remember.
When it became obvious that my ideas were not to be realized, I wanted to kick somebodies nuts, anybodies nuts, so hard, that they would become earrings!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I totally lost interest in the mod. Until my son asked me for an 'Insane Mod'. So, I chopped and screwed my mod up to meet what he wanted. Then dumped it here for people to take the maps. I was annoyed and did not care. In retrospect, very silly.

But, in removing the quests and certain maps, new ideas began to form, and I am now working on something that should be even better. Don't hold you breath though, I will probably be bleedin' dead before it gets done!!!!!

Good luck with your efforts though.

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Re: 1.13 April 2007 map contest[message #151870] Sun, 05 August 2007 21:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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AZAZEL
http://www.badongo.com/file/3203351
Smile


Thanks for the maps

Is there any chance you could give me a quick rundown of how to use/load them in game? And also would you be able to list the sectors the new maps are for?

thanks

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Re: 1.13 April 2007 map contest[message #151872] Sun, 05 August 2007 21:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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copy the maps and radarmaps folders into your data folder and start a new game and voila..they'll be there..if you choose shed23's maps..in the first couple sectors is an extreme abundance of great equipment as he designed them for his son i believe he said

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Re: 1.13 April 2007 map contest[message #151878] Sun, 05 August 2007 22:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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i caught my own mistake before you posted..look at yer posting time and my edit time..i win..WOOT..wheres my prize? Very Happy

maybe yer sighkick..duh-huh Very Happy

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Re: 1.13 April 2007 map contest[message #151889] Sun, 05 August 2007 23:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mailor is currently offline mailor

 
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Shed23:

I totally appreciate your work, and I am sad to hear, that your initial project was impossible to finish. But making the maps available was definitely not a silly thing to do. I for instance am very thankful for your really awesome work (I hope I didn't sound too rude with my rather silly comment... But first I thought it was a shame, that many maps are unusable in a normal campaign. I was just too stupid to make the map editor run (a problem I solved in the meantime)).

Now I managed to implement 11 of your maps in my normal campaign (just by removing most of the items), and I am very happy I was able to do so. Playing the campaign with your additional maps (and with a few others of Azazel) makes the game much more interesting.

Therefore, I want to say thanks to all of you who contribute these fantastic maps. Keep up the good work!

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Re: 1.13 April 2007 map contest[message #151906] Mon, 06 August 2007 09:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
shed23 is currently offline shed23

 
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Mailor.

I have taken no offense, and understand why you think you may have been rude. Not the case at all. Stop your concerns over this.
Every one of my maps should be available for use in any way you want.
Although the editor can be a pain at times, never give up. The results are worth it.
Good luck with all your efforts.

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Re: 1.13 April 2007 map contest[message #152118] Tue, 07 August 2007 18:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Is there any where else that has some more maps I can download?

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Re: 1.13 April 2007 map contest[message #152293] Wed, 08 August 2007 21:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Marlboro Man

 
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Is there any where else that has some more maps I can download?


There isn't a whole lot else I am sorry to say. That's why John and Shed have been trying to get other people interested in doing more maps.

The only other thing I can think of is to give Will Gates nice mod a spin. Militia Factions Mod.

Found here.
http://www.ja-galaxy-forum.com/board/ubbthreads.php/ubb/postlist/Board/40/page/1

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Re: 1.13 April 2007 map contest[message #152320] Wed, 08 August 2007 23:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
donnydonny is currently offline donnydonny

 
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Cheers Id like to make my own maps but Im having trouble. Everytime I download 1.13 inculding the editor, 1.13Mod extracts fine but 1.13add_maps wont extract because it is 'incomplete'. Is there anywhere other than the main 1.13 webpage where I can download 1.13 from?

Also Ive heard the editor is tempramental, is it worth the effort?

thanks

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Re: 1.13 April 2007 map contest[message #152326] Wed, 08 August 2007 23:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Some bugs were recently fixed, but I imagine that it is still a little bit tempramental. And whether or not it's worth it, will depend on how bad you want to create maps. Most of the bugs will be worked out eventually though. The people that do use it, use it because it's the only editor that works correctly with 1.13.

Although... I have heard that the UB/Beta editors can be used to create the maps, (without access to more than 50 tilesets IIRC), and then the 1.13 editor can be used to add/fix items in those maps.

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Re: 1.13 April 2007 map contest[message #152330] Thu, 09 August 2007 00:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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i've posed the question at dbb-central asking if any of them create maps..and if so..could they give me links to post here to increase our map database

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Re: 1.13 April 2007 map contest[message #152343] Thu, 09 August 2007 01:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Kaiden

Although... I have heard that the UB/Beta editors can be used to create the maps, (without access to more than 50 tilesets IIRC), and then the 1.13 editor can be used to add/fix items in those maps.


hey, you don't remember the years prior to you making the 1.13 map editor? of course we were designing maps during that time Very Happy the way you put it.

if you have a beta editor that works stable, it's actually a good way to work the way posted by kaiden, just keep away from the items tab so you won't be making mistakes. Of course the tilesets above 49 must be designed in the 1.13 map editor. however, there will probably only be a limited number of people using a big number of tilesets, particuliarly because the first 50 tilesets are so full of redundancy that some years of tileset work can be put inot those 50 first anyway Wink

for me, as long as i keep working on the same map (not loading new ones) the 1.13 map editor is stable and flawless as far as the features that it supports are concerned. so if you focus on one map, develop and regularly save it, there shouldn't be big troubles with the editor. at least that's how it works for me. do one map at a time. sure slows you down, but so do the freeze ctrl-alt-delete-restarts-crash-restarts Smile

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Re: 1.13 April 2007 map contest[message #153370] Fri, 17 August 2007 00:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Nighthawk is currently offline Nighthawk

 
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I mostly do wilderness and rural farm sectors, replacing those non-quest locations in the game. I have experimented on a new Drassen airport map, and as long as the two crates are put in the same grid locations as the original ones, the Bobby Ray stuff works fine.

I also have 2-3 half completed tilesets where I put the more interesting default stuff together. Any requests on sectors to be replaced?

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Re: 1.13 April 2007 map contest[message #153371] Fri, 17 August 2007 00:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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my request is in the wilderness basically..to make it more itneresting..tiny villages or roadside "diners" so to speak or perhaps small garrison outposts for enemy..no weapons caches..just outposts etc..small barrack and gate building with sandbags etc..you get my drift..1 or two close to each city..in reality..if a country was overrun by a dictator..you might expect to find garrison outposts guarding the cities...they might not be big and fancy..but some form of cobbled "base" would exist..just my opinion and request for stuff Very Happy

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Re: 1.13 April 2007 map contest[message #153373] Fri, 17 August 2007 00:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"cobbled" made me thing of why there's no cobble stones ground or floor textures. might fit well to some of my tilesets actually...

damn, i need 72 hours days for writing up needless ideas that i'll never implement ;-(

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Re: 1.13 April 2007 map contest[message #154762] Tue, 28 August 2007 18:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hello John Wright. I've just discovered this thread. GREAT IDEA. I too have searched without success for the map download site. A year or so ago, for my own enjoyment, I made some new maps for Jay-BecomingX's Vietman SOG 69 UB mod. I offered these to Will Gates for his v 1.13 SOG 69 project, and will clean them up (as noted above) and send to you for your 1.13 project. I assume the e-mail address is still correct ??

However, I'm disappointed that the original GREAT IDEA concept of a JA2 map library apparently didn't get implemented, because I would sure like for SOG 69 players to have access to the complete maps if they want them. While I sincerely have the greatest admiration for everyone working on 1.13, those mods are still in the (hopefully not too distant) future. The fact remains that the only mods we currently have to play are the ones already published. New maps for these games will be appreciated too. So please, don't forget us !!

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Re: 1.13 April 2007 map contest[message #164147] Sat, 10 November 2007 10:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Calling all mappers!!!

Can someone do a redesign of the standard Balime Maps. Specifically to change the position of that North Wall so the AI doesn't have a spastic fit behind it and make themselves invulnerable.

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Re: 1.13 April 2007 map contest[message #164148] Sat, 10 November 2007 11:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Suggestion: look again in this thread.

Also,what spastic fit?
And what mappers?

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Re: 1.13 April 2007 map contest[message #164176] Sat, 10 November 2007 16:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kaerar is currently offline Kaerar

 
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I have got all maps from this thread. I was just posting to see if any mappers still existed and could fix the Balime maps rather than create whole new ones. Basically when either Balime sector is invaded from the North you cannot shoot the buggers in the head cos they sit in squares you can see only from rooftops. They play a game of get up, get down and turn around. Possibly shoot very badly at a few Militia (who in return only get about 1 in 40 shots over the wall back at them) and then pull off strange feats of Pistol headshot at 30+ tile range critical hit on mercs.

Just thought that as its a mapping issue it could be fixed quite easily with a minor redesign of that stupid north wall.

Sorry rant over. I just hate defending Balime...

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Re: 1.13 April 2007 map contest[message #164177] Sat, 10 November 2007 16:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
the scorpion

 
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use that damn wall to your advantage. place explosives there, use molotovs, etc. Wink

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Re: 1.13 April 2007 map contest[message #164178] Sat, 10 November 2007 16:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I have! I have mined the entire outer section once. That was a great fireworks display on the first turn!

However is still doesn't cut the mustard. Its main problem is map edge proxitmity. If moved in or modified along those lines then it would solve the problem. Hell if I could remember how to use the map editor then I would have a go when I have the time (probably about 6 months time then...).

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Re: 1.13 April 2007 map contest[message #164186] Sat, 10 November 2007 18:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hello, i got a question. I downloaded the map editor manual from that badongo link, but i cant seem to read the file. I dont have Microsoft Word, maybe thats the case? Anyway i also downloaded the MS Word Viewer program from the MS site to see if maybe that helps, but i cant seem to figure out how to use it, now when i try to open the map editor manual the word viewer only offers me to save it?(go figure) ive saved the file over and over 20 times now, also tried to find any tips on how to use the word viewer from the MS homepage but didnt find any.
So what am i doing wrong or how could i read the Map Editor Manual. Help please.

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Re: 1.13 April 2007 map contest[message #164191] Sat, 10 November 2007 20:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I don't know how to help you with this Word Viewer thingy, but if you have the time to download about 120MB, I'd recommend open office, which is free and does almost the same as its commercial counterpart from M$ and definately does read this manual (sorry for shameless advertisement)

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Re: 1.13 April 2007 map contest[message #164235] Sun, 11 November 2007 04:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sweet thanks for the tip, ill download it. I've started the map editor several times now, but always quit after 15 min cause it feels so overwhelming lol.





NOTE: Just downloaded it, and it works, thanks again.

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Re: 1.13 April 2007 map contest[message #187594] Thu, 05 June 2008 11:22 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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Hello!

I have a Problem. About a year ago, I downloaded several maps of Shed23 and Azazel, and modified them in order to make them playable for 1.13. The problem is, that I only had those maps saved on my laptop, which broke, and I lost the files. So I am here to ask if someone else has modified maps for 1.13? I don't want to go manually with the map editor through all of sheds maps again to remove the items.

Thanks, mailor.

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