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Re: Big Maps Project[message #194320]

Mon, 18 August 2008 13:10

Mini.Me

Messages:1
Registered:July 2008

IMHO the big map modification is one of the most important changes. So isn't there anyone who can help you?

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Civilian

Re: Big Maps Project[message #194328]

Mon, 18 August 2008 15:09

Will Gates

Messages:1012
Registered:September 2006
Location: Far far away.

Here's a question for the Big Map peeps. What are the proportions of the bigger maps? Let me explain my question. In JA2 the map "looks" like a horizontal rectangle approx 2 long by 1 high but it is in fact a square made out of isometric tiles. Have you kept to this 2 by 1 rule but just bigger or have you broken the rule?

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Sergeant Major

Re: Big Maps Project[message #194365]

Mon, 18 August 2008 20:43

redgun

Messages:190
Registered:March 2007
Location: Austria

iirc, the maps are 1:1 ration in all aspects except on the minimap.

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Re: Big Maps Project[message #195155]

Thu, 28 August 2008 20:56

lalienxx

Messages:86
Registered:February 2006

Will Gates

Here's a question for the Big Map peeps. What are the proportions of the bigger maps? Let me explain my question. In JA2 the map "looks" like a horizontal rectangle approx 2 long by 1 high but it is in fact a square made out of isometric tiles. Have you kept to this 2 by 1 rule but just bigger or have you broken the rule?

Theoretically it's possible to make maps with any size because the map size is stored in map file. Though some testing is needed to proof it.

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Corporal 1st Class

Re: Big Maps Project[message #195181]

Fri, 29 August 2008 00:53

Headrock

Messages:1760
Registered:March 2006
Location: Jerusalem

I've got a great idea made possible by this, because such an impact on the size of the tactical maps gives us a huge new potential for the way the Strategic Screen works. I'm going to post a thread about that ASAP.

However, I think the game in its current form can't make the most out of 1 tile per meter, but a lot of projects (like externalized APs which are part of the 100AP project) are going to really help here. But the way combat works would have to be changed drastically. Fortunately, I have a good feeling that once the BM project is out, a whole lot of people are going to go CRAZY modding this, so thumbs WAY up and I'm really rooting for you!!!

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Sergeant Major

Re: Big Maps Project[message #195198]

Fri, 29 August 2008 09:38

Arquebus

Messages:68
Registered:June 2008
Location: Oslo Norway

GO big map team!
Go big map team!

this will be the greatest thing since bread came sliced!

Finally we will have scale and scenery that matches!
And large city sprawls crawling with evildoers to put down!

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Corporal

Re: Big Maps Project[message #195212]

Fri, 29 August 2008 12:59

Kaerar

Messages:2022
Registered:January 2003
Location: Australia :D

I would love to be able to assault the whole of Cambria at once. Smile

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Re: Big Maps Project[message #195215]

Fri, 29 August 2008 13:43

Arquebus

Messages:68
Registered:June 2008
Location: Oslo Norway

I love to place Mogadishu in a couple of squares and play the black-hawk down mod Smile

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Corporal

Re: Big Maps Project[message #199824]

Thu, 23 October 2008 09:45

Arquebus

Messages:68
Registered:June 2008
Location: Oslo Norway

What is the latest news from Mohave on this one?

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Corporal

Re: Big Maps Project[message #204392]

Fri, 19 December 2008 12:09

Kaerar

Messages:2022
Registered:January 2003
Location: Australia :D

I have to second Arquebus on this. Has there been any movement on the eastern front?

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Lieutenant

Re: Big Maps Project[message #206061]

Sat, 10 January 2009 21:48

wanne (aka RoWa21)

Messages:1961
Registered:October 2005
Location: Austria

Good news, I have some freetime the next few weeks, so I will start working to make some progress on this project.

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Sergeant Major

Re: Big Maps Project[message #206062]

Sat, 10 January 2009 21:55

Khor1255

Messages:1817
Registered:August 2003
Location: Pleasantville, NJ

Let me know if you need anything. This is great news.

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Sergeant Major

Re: Big Maps Project[message #206152]

Mon, 12 January 2009 11:14

wanne (aka RoWa21)

Messages:1961
Registered:October 2005
Location: Austria

Yesterday I created a Big Map (twice as big as normal Maps) in the Map Editor. It worked fine in the Editor and also in the Game.

In the next few days I am going to merge the Big Maps Project Code with the current Source Code(of course in my private development folder) and not in the offical SVN development branch.

Then we can run some tests.

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Re: Big Maps Project[message #206153]

Mon, 12 January 2009 11:25

Kaerar

Messages:2022
Registered:January 2003
Location: Australia :D

Excellent Smithers...

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Lieutenant

Re: Big Maps Project[message #206154]

Mon, 12 January 2009 11:58

moteel

Messages:11
Registered:August 2006
Location: Banana Republic of Poland

Yeah, excellent work. But the "full sector view" ("i" key in editor) will be fixed to see whole sector?

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Re: Big Maps Project[message #206155]

Mon, 12 January 2009 12:04

wanne (aka RoWa21)

Messages:1961
Registered:October 2005
Location: Austria

@moteel: Will take a look.

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Sergeant Major

Re: Big Maps Project[message #207718]

Sun, 01 February 2009 19:33

lockie

Messages:3721
Registered:February 2006
Location: Scotland

How is progress Rowa ?

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Captain

Re: Big Maps Project[message #207719]

Sun, 01 February 2009 20:04

wanne (aka RoWa21)

Messages:1961
Registered:October 2005
Location: Austria

Big Maps source code is merged with latest svn version (before Many Merc integration).

- Old Maps still load with the editor and the game, but there are still a few bugs
- Big maps can be created with the Map Editor and load in the game. There are also a few bugs which are specific to big maps.

Work is in progress (but slowly) ...

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Sergeant Major

Re: Big Maps Project[message #207729]

Sun, 01 February 2009 22:20

KEN C

Messages:244
Registered:May 2007
Location: Aberdeen Washington USA

RoWa21, Is there a problem with merging Many Mercs? I am curious why it is not in the svn download yet.

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Re: Big Maps Project[message #207751]

Mon, 02 February 2009 08:48

wanne (aka RoWa21)

Messages:1961
Registered:October 2005
Location: Austria

@oldnoob: Many Merc is already merged with the 1.13 source code but there is no official EXE yet. There is no problem with Many Merc. If I have some time today I will compile a new EXE and upload it to SVN.

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Re: Big Maps Project[message #207753]

Mon, 02 February 2009 09:18

wanne (aka RoWa21)

Messages:1961
Registered:October 2005
Location: Austria

RoWa21

@oldnoob: Many Merc is already merged with the 1.13 source code but there is no official EXE yet. There is no problem with Many Merc. If I have some time today I will compile a new EXE and upload it to SVN.

DONE!

Take a look in the Release Thread:
http://www.ja-galaxy-forum.com/board/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=207752&page=0#Post207752

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Sergeant Major

Re: Big Maps Project[message #207756]

Mon, 02 February 2009 12:16

Majek

Messages:437
Registered:January 2003
Location: Slovenia

I've been wondering, how does the Mini map display a map larger that usual?

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Re: Big Maps Project[message #207760]

Mon, 02 February 2009 12:38

Starwalker

Messages:759
Registered:October 2005
Location: Hannover, Germany

RoWa21

RoWa21
@oldnoob: Many Merc is already merged with the 1.13 source code but there is no official EXE yet. There is no problem with Many Merc. If I have some time today I will compile a new EXE and upload it to SVN.

DONE!

Take a look in the Release Thread:
http://www.ja-galaxy-forum.com/board/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=207752&page=0#Post207752

Is that the newest ManyMerc exe, with assertions turned ON?

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First Sergeant

Re: Big Maps Project[message #207763]

Mon, 02 February 2009 13:06

Majek

Messages:437
Registered:January 2003
Location: Slovenia

And shouldn't Ja2_Options.ini be updated as well ?

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Re: Big Maps Project[message #207773]

Mon, 02 February 2009 14:23

Starwalker

Messages:759
Registered:October 2005
Location: Hannover, Germany

Majek

And shouldn't Ja2_Options.ini be updated as well ?

Yes, of course it should be updated, as it holds the new options for ManyMercs.

In the meantime you can still pick it up from SpaceViking's site.

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First Sergeant

Re: Big Maps Project[message #207778]

Mon, 02 February 2009 15:09

Majek

Messages:437
Registered:January 2003
Location: Slovenia

Starwalker

Majek
And shouldn't Ja2_Options.ini be updated as well ?

Yes, of course it should be updated, as it holds the new options for ManyMercs.

In the meantime you can still pick it up from SpaceViking's site.

I manually updated it, because i'm playing WF mod... restarting it, since i cant load old savegames with settings i want to have ._.

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Re: Big Maps Project[message #207781]

Mon, 02 February 2009 16:02

wanne (aka RoWa21)

Messages:1961
Registered:October 2005
Location: Austria

Starwalker

Majek
And shouldn't Ja2_Options.ini be updated as well ?

Yes, of course it should be updated, as it holds the new options for ManyMercs.

In the meantime you can still pick it up from SpaceViking's site.

I will update the ja2_options.ini tonight with the additional keys for many merc.

EDIT: UPDATED!

[Updated on: Mon, 02 February 2009 21:12] by Moderator

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Sergeant Major

Re: Big Maps Project[message #207798]

Mon, 02 February 2009 18:37

KEN C

Messages:244
Registered:May 2007
Location: Aberdeen Washington USA

Thanks RoWa21,you have made my day!

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Re: Big Maps Project[message #208193]

Fri, 06 February 2009 13:03

lockie

Messages:3721
Registered:February 2006
Location: Scotland

Were there ever any screenshots of the big maps ? If so , could you post em for all to see ?
Would like to visualise whats happening here , ta !

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Captain

Re: Big Maps Project[message #208205]

Fri, 06 February 2009 14:53

wanne (aka RoWa21)

Messages:1961
Registered:October 2005
Location: Austria

I can't post a screenshot. Just imagine that the tactical map can be much more bigger than the actual size of the map. So instead of a "normal" size (160x160) you can have eg. a size of (500x500).

@lockie: When Alpha-Version is done, you could be a Tester Smile

[Updated on: Fri, 06 February 2009 14:54] by Moderator

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Sergeant Major

Re: Big Maps Project[message #208209]

Fri, 06 February 2009 15:11

lockie

Messages:3721
Registered:February 2006
Location: Scotland

Yes , easy to install instructions a must....... Very Happy

be delighted to help .

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Captain

Re: Big Maps Project[message #213113]

Mon, 13 April 2009 19:58

Mauser

Messages:756
Registered:August 2006
Location: Bavaria - Germany

heya guys is this project still going strong?

i would be delighted to see some working big maps, since this would open up immense possibilities for modders!

only problem i would see would be with the current minimap, which would become pretty useless with bigger and irregularly shaped maps. but i reckon we could use a bigger and more flexible minimap anyways and thanks to higher resolutions, we can actually have it.

so please try to get this feature and the needed editors done and running into the release version, since this will surely be one of the biggest treats for mappers and modders!

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First Sergeant

Re: Big Maps Project[message #213121]

Mon, 13 April 2009 20:44

wanne (aka RoWa21)

Messages:1961
Registered:October 2005
Location: Austria

Yes project is still going on. We have another coder working on the project. It is arynn who did the new option screen.

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Re: Big Maps Project[message #213123]

Mon, 13 April 2009 20:52

Mauser

Messages:756
Registered:August 2006
Location: Bavaria - Germany

great to hear Roman!

i

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First Sergeant

Re: Big Maps Project[message #213133]

Mon, 13 April 2009 23:14

Headrock

Messages:1760
Registered:March 2006
Location: Jerusalem

The new options screen was WAY overdue and I'm really really glad it finally got done. There are probably lots of things that should be moved from INI to the options screen, now that there's more room for them. Maybe it might even be possible to have multi-menus so we can separate the settings into categories... but I digress.

Big Maps is probably the best yet-to-be-completed feature on the table at the moment. I hope Arynn has the tenacity to complete it though Very Happy

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Sergeant Major

Re: Big Maps Project[message #213147]

Tue, 14 April 2009 02:13

SpaceViking

Messages:751
Registered:January 2004
Location: Rochester, Minnesota, USA

A few things should go from the options to the .ini probably, too. Options should be things that people commonly change, not obscure things. We might also want to consider some .ini sets of things that appear as single options.

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Re: Big Maps Project[message #213148]

Tue, 14 April 2009 02:25

Headrock

Messages:1760
Registered:March 2006
Location: Jerusalem

What sort of options did you guys have in mind?

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Sergeant Major

Re: Big Maps Project[message #220727]

Fri, 12 June 2009 08:22

smeagol

Messages:2705
Registered:June 2008
Location: Bremen, Germany

Mauser

heya guys is this project still going strong?

i would be delighted to see some working big maps, since this would open up immense possibilities for modders!

only problem i would see would be with the current minimap, which would become pretty useless with bigger and irregularly shaped maps. but i reckon we could use a bigger and more flexible minimap anyways and thanks to higher resolutions, we can actually have it.

so please try to get this feature and the needed editors done and running into the release version, since this will surely be one of the biggest treats for mappers and modders!

I totally agree... can't wait to have a decent map editor for big maps. Smile

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Lieutenant