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| Re: New beta, known issues![message #188091]
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Tue, 10 June 2008 01:35  
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| the scorpion |
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Messages:1834
Registered:September 2004
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maybe try this fmod.dll (right-clikc, save target as...)
http://www.freewebs.com/ja2vengeance/fmod.dll
it must be in the same folder where RR beta17 is.
if that doesn't help, it might be an installation problem
have you ever had a working installation of RR before?
the data must be so:
ja2 folder/ here is ja2.exe, rr beta 17 exe, fmod.dll, such stuff
data folder/ data-1.13 folder/ data-renegade folder
hope this helps. I don't think these dll files are updated often, so it's probably some sort of installation issue.
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Sergeant Major
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| Re: New beta, known issues![message #188100]
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Tue, 10 June 2008 09:14
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Messages:3717
Registered:February 2006
Location: Scotland |
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thanks scorp , try it tonight .
EDIT: ok , it loaded ok , with heading beta 17 , thats the exe I chose ,letter from consel ,
why maps the same as ja2 ? airport has different name ,usual layout , and drassen is same, also why do I have lbe gear and backpack in inventory , can't seem to use em ,stopped at drassen mine , no saves am I supposed to see same map overview or have I done something wrong , ( what ? )
( d/loaded kaerars 1 click 1.13 c/w niv and svn , could this be problem ?)Frustratingly almost there it seems . Bugger :hmm:
EDIT : when starting b17 exe , same message for missing dll , so moved exe out of rr folder to
ja2 folder tried again and it started , with 1st edit results . so ........?
[Updated on: Wed, 11 June 2008 13:36] by Moderator Report message to a moderator
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| Re: New beta, known issues![message #188268]
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Wed, 11 June 2008 13:53
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| the scorpion |
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Messages:1834
Registered:September 2004
Location: CH |
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if you have the same maps as ja2, your install is somehow wrong.
so you have a full install of ja2 1.13 mod.
now you just do the following: you extract the content of the archive of rr, and later also the patches and additions, to the place where ja2.exe is located
extract all files at once, don't create any additional folders, allow overwriting (ja2.ini i think it is)
important: first 1.13, then RR.
check if the rr beta17 exe is where all the exe's are (ja2.exe, xml editor exe, whatever you have)
check that ja2.ini points to "data-renegade"
check that you have three folders at the same level, one is called "data" the other one is called "data-1.13" the third and most important one is called "data-renegade"
your attempt in the first edit was the better one, i think you only had ja2.ini wrong in the first edit, in the second edit it reads more like having the exe in the wong place.
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Sergeant Major
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| Re: New beta, known issues![message #188313]
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Wed, 11 June 2008 21:19
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| lockie |
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Messages:3717
Registered:February 2006
Location: Scotland |
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hey , neat new icon !!
as for install , nup !
ok , in ja2 gold folder we have : data folder , b17 exe ,RR folder ,backenddll , fmoddll ,ini exe ,
map exe , xml exe ,ja2 mpini , patch 112 ,readme rev . readme html ,xml editorinit ,xml editor setting ,inieditor ,clcd16 , clcd32 ,dplayerx , drvmgt ,installog ,ja21.13 2142snv1001full ,ja2ini , ja2set ,mss32dll ,jamanualpdf ,readmedoc ,register ,sfi ico , sfiwebsite ,
smack32 , unwise exe, ja2exe ,data 1.13
still going to 1.13 only .
and yes , ini set to renegade !
what haven't I done ??
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| Re: New beta, known issues![message #188322]
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Wed, 11 June 2008 21:35
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| the scorpion |
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Messages:1834
Registered:September 2004
Location: CH |
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this is hard to figure from a distance
it reads as if you have done everything. But apparently we're missing something.
ja2.ini must point to the new folder. their names must match
"data-renegade"
is this what you refer to as the "rr folder" ?
if these match then it can't go to 1.13...
*edit*
yeah, true, make sure any writing protection or stuff is off ja2.ini, saving is of course required as well.
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Sergeant Major
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| Re: New beta, known issues![message #188333]
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Wed, 11 June 2008 21:51
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| the scorpion |
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Messages:1834
Registered:September 2004
Location: CH |
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if you start the game, there would be an RR intro.
the RR beta never sais RR but there's no sirtech screen as far as i recall.
just go on and see if you get that dark main menu background with some soldiers with dogs... you can't miss it if it's there.
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Sergeant Major
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| Re: New beta, known issues![message #188501]
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Thu, 12 June 2008 23:02
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| the scorpion |
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Messages:1834
Registered:September 2004
Location: CH |
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it must be something totally unexpected...
let's go through the process once more:
you have updated to 2085 1.13.
now the next step is to extract the RR files from the downloadarchive to the folder where ja2 is (for this purpose, open the ja2 download archive using whatever tool yo use for the purpose. then drag-and-drop all contents, namely RR beta 17 exe, the data-renegade folder and all the rest to this location)
the tool would ask you to overwrite ja2.ini now, agree to do so.
it is probably better to remove any writing protection or shit from ja2.ini before in case there was one
then apply the patches and additions the same way, with faces addition being the last part to add.
now the only thing left to do is run the RR beta 17 exe.
Try to keep those 4 things in mind, they are the key elements:
1. the custom data is where it is supposed to be, data-renegade folder exists and has all its content (around 500 megs or so.. a lot in any case)
2. ja2.ini points to data-renegade as custom data folder location
3. you use RR beta17 exe, not via any shortcuts or anything.
4. Make sure you have the patches installed especially if you want to play 640x480
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Sergeant Major
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| Re: New beta, known issues![message #188548]
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Fri, 13 June 2008 09:51
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| lockie |
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Messages:3717
Registered:February 2006
Location: Scotland |
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Quote:yes, you don't see a direct result of pressing "print screen"
but after you have pressed it, open up paint and select "insert" or whatever it is in english to show your config.
i'm starting to get the feeling that he's kidding me 
ohhh no I'm not ! Honestly , never used it , never tried , obviously retarded  .
I'll mess about today with work laptop , see how it goes( if it breaks , may have to ask you for a job ) , try game again tonight :silly: ,
thanks for bearing with me . Hey, maybe I could be install manager , as in, if I can get it to work ANYBODY can :biglaugh:
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| Re: New beta, known issues![message #188554]
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Fri, 13 June 2008 13:04
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| lockie |
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Messages:3717
Registered:February 2006
Location: Scotland |
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Quote:how far have you run the game to check whether it's RR or not?
well , opening screen ( new game ,continue game etc.) has 1.13 header ,no RR banner at all , and map still starts in omerta , sooo , I usually grind my teeth and quit game at this point 
My sons are home on Sunday , so they'll help ol' Dad !
As for print screen / paint , using google toolbar and guess ?
Yup , can't find paint button , I must really be retarded , DOH!
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| Re: New beta, known issues![message #188559]
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Fri, 13 June 2008 13:56
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| the scorpion |
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Messages:1834
Registered:September 2004
Location: CH |
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yeah, okay, omerta map is pretty clear it isn't RR
i guess it is best to wait for the sons to help you, with direct access to the comp they can help more than what i can do from a distance.
sry
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Sergeant Major
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| Re: New beta, known issues![message #188650]
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Fri, 13 June 2008 21:18
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| the scorpion |
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Messages:1834
Registered:September 2004
Location: CH |
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yes, conseil sending messages implies you're using RR
but hitman using a wrong item (it's not a mortar, the mortar is just a placeholder pic)
means also that a wrong prof.dat is used. Maybe you have a partly-complete installation ;-D
can you check if you have a folder data-renegade/maps ?
that should contain quite a bit of data, if you open it, it shoudl have hundreds of files.
then apparently, the binarydata is missing too. how can this be possible...
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| Re: New beta, known issues![message #188654]
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Fri, 13 June 2008 22:29
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| the scorpion |
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Messages:1834
Registered:September 2004
Location: CH |
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clear sign of bad install. it looks a lot like you only installed the patches, not the actual mod.
(the number of maps in the patches sums up as 13, and you also have some tabledata stuff like items.xml but are lacking the binarydata stuff...)
again, there are several hundreds of megabytes to be installed to the correct location.
maybe your download was corrupted? how large is the download archive?
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| Re: New beta, known issues![message #188660]
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Fri, 13 June 2008 23:58
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| the scorpion |
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Messages:1834
Registered:September 2004
Location: CH |
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so, now it's all okay?
man i'm glad i can stick with xp and not yet using vista. it seems to be quite a pain sometimes.
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| Re: New beta, known issues![message #189401]
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Mon, 23 June 2008 17:40
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| SAS-9 |
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Messages:4
Registered:October 2003
Location: Copenhagen, Denmark |
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Hey Scorp, fantastic Mod... made the game feel like new again! One little hiccup though... MY first campaign crashed on day 39 and repeats to do so, so i start again and this time it crashes on day 38 and repeats to do so. Got aaaaany idea at all why?
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| Re: New beta, known issues![message #189412]
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Mon, 23 June 2008 20:18
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| the scorpion |
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Messages:1834
Registered:September 2004
Location: CH |
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glad you like it.
i don't know exactly why it crashes. My best guess is that it has to do with the part of the code that handles enemy equipment distribution.
All attempts to evade it have been fruitless though :-/
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| Re: New beta, known issues![message #189421]
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Tue, 24 June 2008 00:01
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| the scorpion |
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Messages:1834
Registered:September 2004
Location: CH |
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it apparently doesn't depend on game time, but on progress it seems. if you head straight for the end game, you might see the problems just faster ;-(
one idea is to play it slowly. So you can play for a long time before running into these freezes.
once these freezes occure, quicksave before loading tactical maps in order to avoid oo much frustration.
since i don't know the exact problem, there's not much i can help i'm afraid. sry.
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changed ini to data-renegade , used updated 17 exe , blowed if I can figure it out . am scunnered ! :sadyellow: , still starts up as 1.13 .
