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"Hospital lacks supplies" - Anything I can do?[message #166012] Fri, 30 November 2007 15:08 Go to next message
colonp
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I cleared the hospital, then ran around checking containers in my usual kleptomanic fashion, then shift-m'ed. Now the doctors say they can't help me because "Someone ripped off our supplies" (oops). They won't take med kits from me or anything. Will they get supplies on their own, is it a lost cause, or is there anything I can do?
Re: "Hospital lacks supplies" - Anything I can do?[message #166017] Fri, 30 November 2007 16:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Marlboro Man

 
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I learned that the hard way myself. If you steal any of the med supplies from the outer warehouse then your chances of getting healed up are slim. You can take everything you find from inside the hospital ok, but not the warehouse.

I have not a clue if those supplies "replenish" after a while. If you take them.


Re: "Hospital lacks supplies" - Anything I can do?[message #166099] Fri, 30 November 2007 22:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
lockie

 
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spend the cash at bobby rays im afraid , at least thats what i hadda do ...


Re: "Hospital lacks supplies" - Anything I can do?[message #166187] Sat, 01 December 2007 14:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Cagemonkey

 
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First time I came to the hospital I picked the warehouse clean before talking to the staff. I still had three severely wounded mercs after using most of the supplies but my finances were great so I thought I could afford it. I was so disapointed when they couldn
Re: "Hospital lacks supplies" - Anything I can do?[message #166224] Sat, 01 December 2007 18:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
JA fan

 
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colonp
I cleared the hospital, then ran around checking containers in my usual kleptomanic fashion, then shift-m'ed. Now the doctors say they can't help me because "Someone ripped off our supplies" (oops). They won't take med kits from me or anything. Will they get supplies on their own, is it a lost cause, or is there anything I can do?


It's a lost cause,unless you have an earlier save.

I remember my first time......It was a relief when I discovered that I still could receive med. treatment,cause I only had taken goods from the hospital,not from the warehouse outside.
But only realised that much later,when Ira was already a pro doc...... Very Happy
;([message #166253] Sat, 01 December 2007 22:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
colonp
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That's a shame.

Thanks all.
Re: ;([message #166440] Mon, 03 December 2007 13:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kindred

 
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Even better, raise the town's loyalty, get a high leadership merc and recruit Vince as a field medic.
Re: ;([message #166449] Mon, 03 December 2007 15:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Marlboro Man

 
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Right. I always recruit Vince. 1 doctor at the hospital is enough anyway. Smile


Re: "Hospital lacks supplies" - Anything I can do?[message #175794] Sat, 16 February 2008 23:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mgl

 
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colonp
I cleared the hospital, then ran around checking containers in my usual kleptomanic fashion, then shift-m'ed. Now the doctors say they can't help me because "Someone ripped off our supplies" (oops). They won't take med kits from me or anything. Will they get supplies on their own, is it a lost cause, or is there anything I can do?


It's a lost cause,unless you have an earlier save.


I just browsed the portion of the source code about that and saw that you can theoretically resupply the hospital: if you drop in the sector the same amount or more of medical supplies (medikit, 1st aid kit, regen. boost and energy boost) than what you stole, doctoring should be enabled again.

"Ownership" might be an issue though, because the code looks if the medical stuff belongs to "the doctors" group. I know nothing about ownership in that game, but I remember I dropped several weapons in one of the smith's crates in Grumm and he insulted me like a thief when I took them back later.

So, maybe if you drop enough medical stuff in the crates in the warehouse ...

Re: ;([message #175797] Sun, 17 February 2008 03:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
JA fan

 
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Kindred
Even better, raise the town's loyalty, get a high leadership merc and recruit Vince as a field medic.


I don't remember ppl being able to recruit him after stealing medical supplies....

At least the guide,says you can't.Although by the little test I could make,after more than 1 day that I've stolen a med kit,Vince only said something about employees stealing supplies,but didn't refuse to give treatment.And I suppose you could recruit him,but haven't tested it out.

What now? :whoknows:

I prefer to keep the warehouse full just in case.I don't need THAT quantity of med supplies anyway.
Re: ;([message #175901] Mon, 18 February 2008 15:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Will Gates

 
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Ownership is invisible & in the box or crate. It covers everything in the box and is not tagged to individual items. Just place some spare medical stuff back in the boxes or other "junk" like alcohol or x-ray tubes and I'm sure your error will be forgiven.

Re: ;([message #175909] Mon, 18 February 2008 15:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DNA from the Lowlands

 
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just adding:

- there was something about the girl in Tony/Hans's shop: don't kill her.
(at least not untill you recruited Vince, I'm not sure what happens if you kill her afterwards.)
- Joey the kid-quest had to be solved before the doctor joins.
Re: ;([message #175956] Tue, 19 February 2008 03:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
JA fan

 
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DNA from the Lowlands
just adding:

- there was something about the girl in Tony/Hans's shop: don't kill her.
(at least not untill you recruited Vince, I'm not sure what happens if you kill her afterwards.)
- Joey the kid-quest had to be solved before the doctor joins.


No need for that...Just raise loyalty to >=80%.
Re: ;([message #176148] Wed, 20 February 2008 23:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mgl

 
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Will Gates
Ownership is invisible & in the box or crate. It covers everything in the box and is not tagged to individual items. Just place some spare medical stuff back in the boxes or other "junk" like alcohol or x-ray tubes and I'm sure your error will be forgiven.

I tried and it worked :cheers:

I had to do it twice, maybe because the first time I dropped 1st aid kits, regeneration and energy boosts in piles of 3 or 4 and they may have been counted as one item only.

You have to reload the sector (leave and come back) to trigger the medical supplies check function.

Re: ;([message #177177] Mon, 03 March 2008 06:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Lucas

 
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If your loyalty in Cambria is very high, you can get your mercs healed for free.

I don't remember well, but I thiiink you must go straight to the younger doctor instead of talking with Jenny.
Re: ;([message #177271] Tue, 04 March 2008 06:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
JA fan

 
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If your loyalty in Cambria is very high, you can get your mercs healed for free.

I don't remember well, but I thiiink you must go straight to the younger doctor instead of talking with Jenny.


Haven't tested it yet......I always talk with that cutie little thing........ :naughty:

Then Vince charges a little fee....Not that I need that though.And it's not THAT high either.I just do that for fun.

I don't use the services of Arnie either.How will I raise Barry mech that way? :blah:
Re: "Hospital lacks supplies" - Anything I can do?[message #227806] Sat, 18 July 2009 17:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
China Blue
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:goggleyed: Hospital Theft:

Once you steal from the hospital you will NEVER get any help from them after it.

Nothing is ever replaced and you on on your own.

CB
Re: "Hospital lacks supplies" - Anything I can do?[message #227811] Sat, 18 July 2009 17:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
gmonk

 
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Did you try mgl's trick above? I must confess I've only ever stolen the supplies once, the first time I played, and I've never had to try it out.
Re: "Hospital lacks supplies" - Anything I can do?[message #227813] Sat, 18 July 2009 17:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Logisteric

 
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i always steal them, to be exact my employee dr. vincent beaumont steals them
Re: "Hospital lacks supplies" - Anything I can do?[message #227815] Sat, 18 July 2009 17:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
gmonk

 
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lol, and does it prevent the "missing medical supplies" penalty?
Re: "Hospital lacks supplies" - Anything I can do?[message #227817] Sat, 18 July 2009 17:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Logisteric

 
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i never have anyone healed by dr. beaumont (before he's on my payroll) or dr. willis (at all)

afaik both refuse to do their jobs if you steal and dr. beaumont doesn't join a thief - is there any other penalty?
Re: "Hospital lacks supplies" - Anything I can do?[message #279291] Wed, 04 May 2011 22:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Blue_Fox

 
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I never be able to recruit Steven Willis.
HtH/Melee/Scout
Is it Possible to recruit him?
I love Scouts, there are only 4(Monk, Cougar, Hamous & Steven Willis) in the game.
Re: "Hospital lacks supplies" - Anything I can do?[message #279292] Wed, 04 May 2011 22:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gorro der Grüne

 
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nO Ob
Re: "Hospital lacks supplies" - Anything I can do?[message #279293] Wed, 04 May 2011 22:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Logisteric

 
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dr steven willis is not and was never recruitable - you can recruit dr vincent beaumont - if someone gave 'steve' this traits (i doubt it) it's simply a bad joke
Re: "Hospital lacks supplies" - Anything I can do?[message #279294] Wed, 04 May 2011 22:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gorro der Grüne

 
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sorry in original JA2 every npc has traits and stats


again nOObing around?
Re: "Hospital lacks supplies" - Anything I can do?[message #279296] Wed, 04 May 2011 22:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Logisteric

 
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just had a look

in vanilla, he was a knifing expert

in stomp, it is as you say


but that is totally irrelevant as he can't be and never could be hired

someone (sandro?) played a practical joke on you - if you need more scouts, get them with your imps
Re: "Hospital lacks supplies" - Anything I can do?[message #279297] Wed, 04 May 2011 22:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Blue_Fox

 
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I have one in my team, if serious need more i edit the profile from someone.
IMP's are cheap but they have no buddy's.
No fun talk .
Re: "Hospital lacks supplies" - Anything I can do?[message #282611] Tue, 07 June 2011 16:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
past caring

 
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Unless something has changed with 1.13, "medical supplies" were always strictly defined as med kits and first-aid kits - I have always been able to steal whatever else is in the crates in the warehouse (energy/regen boosts, gasmasks) without ever incurring any penalty receiving medical treatments from the docs or being able to recruit Vince.
Re: "Hospital lacks supplies" - Anything I can do?[message #282617] Tue, 07 June 2011 17:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gorro der Grüne

 
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So You have a hand tailored JA version?

It was ever this way.
Re: "Hospital lacks supplies" - Anything I can do?[message #282619] Tue, 07 June 2011 18:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
past caring

 
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"Hand tailored"?

No, I'm no modder. Until last year (or maybe 2009) I played 1.06 or 1.07 and was always able to get Vince/get medical treatment so long as I left the med kits and first aid kits in their crates. Anything else I could take. Don't think I've got far enough with a 1.13 game yet to test out whether this is still the case, but it certainly used to be.....
Re: "Hospital lacks supplies" - Anything I can do?[message #282620] Tue, 07 June 2011 18:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gorro der Grüne

 
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It is question of sequence. Vince will even steal the med supplies himself AFTER being recruited.

It was always so that the greyed out stuff was a nono if You wanted med. treatment.
I never tried stealing only particular greyed out goodies, since I neither use the hospital nor doctoring (in regular games). But others reported that they had (German forums) and that greyed out was greyed out.

My 1. squad are normally the 6 fittest (6/32).

[Updated on: Tue, 07 June 2011 19:45] by Moderator

Re: "Hospital lacks supplies" - Anything I can do?[message #282624] Tue, 07 June 2011 19:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
lockie

 
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It was always so that the greyed out stuff was a nono if You wanted med. tratment.


Apart from his spelling , Herr Green is perfectly correct ! Smile


Re: "Hospital lacks supplies" - Anything I can do?[message #282633] Tue, 07 June 2011 21:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
past caring

 
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Hmmm, this is not my recollection - I'll give it a test. Maybe not all of the stuff in the warehouse was grey in 1.06? I am certain that I was able to get treated and recruit Vince after taking the energy/regen boosts though - never recruited Vince and then half-inched it.
Re: "Hospital lacks supplies" - Anything I can do?[message #282754] Wed, 08 June 2011 21:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
past caring

 
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I do so hate being wrong - but on this occasion, I'm right.

Have just fired up a previous iteration of v1.13 (3042, build 09.06.28) and loaded up a save - I have Vince on the team (recruited day 69) and have robbed the Cambria hospital warehouse of all gasmasks and boosters, leaving only med kits and first aid kits in the crates. The robbery would certainly have happened more or less as soon as I took the sector (day 49) so it's definitely not the case of using Vince to do the stealing. As the actual medical supplies have not been touched, there's no problem getting medical treatment, either.

Happy to provide a save if anyone wants it.
Re: "Hospital lacks supplies" - Anything I can do?[message #282759] Wed, 08 June 2011 22:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gorro der Grüne

 
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so feel happy
Re: "Hospital lacks supplies" - Anything I can do?[message #282770] Wed, 08 June 2011 23:32 Go to previous message
past caring

 
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Do one.
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