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I want civillians !!!![message #12887] Thu, 28 July 2005 09:33 Go to next message
The Dog Of War
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Registered:June 2005
Location: The U.S. of A
How do I get non-combatants with the ja2 ub editor? I'm not very good with computers so the more simple it is the more i'll like it! Thanks in advance
Re: I want civillians !!!![message #12888] Fri, 29 July 2005 03:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
CatSpam

 
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Registered:May 2004
Location: Canada
What you want is the Unfinished Business Map File Editor program UB-MFE. It was done by Roadkill some time ago but I think that his web-site is down now. I don't know if thereare any mirrors up for this program.

It is a little crude, but it works.

What you do is create an Unfinished Business map with bloodcats where you want the civilians.

The UB-MFE looks for bloodcats and lets you change them into civilians. You can change them into NPC's, but I had some trouble with scheduling when I did that (the schedule in the regular map editor to determine when the character is in the sector.) I think I had some success when there was already an NPC in the sector (because the scheduling button was activated then). It was a long time ago. Maybe the beta (german) editor doesn't have the same problem. I know that you can do locks in the beta editor, but not in the regular UB editor.

What I have done fairly often was make civilian factions in maps. For example, I set up a rebel camp once by turning a wilderness sector into a camp and setting up about a dozen civilians (as regular soldier body type) assigned to the militia faction. It gave a safe wilderness sector for mercs to rest in as any wandering enemy patrols would have to fight both you and the militia.


I went further once and set up some militia near the map edge of a SAM site sector - as if the rebels were attacking the SAM site.

Just a twist on the map because when I entered at night (like I usually do) a fight started so I couldn't just sneak in and take out the sentries by surprise. A side effect was that after I took the sector and trained 20 militia, I ended up with extra militia in the tactical screen. (If I left the sector and it was attacked, only my regular 20 militia would be there defending). But if I had a merc in the sector when it was attacked and went to the tactical map for the fight - the extra militia would be there fighting on my side.

It works, but you have to find a copy of this program.

I could e-mail the UB-MFE program to you sometime next week if you supply an e-mail address. It isn't a large file, if I recall. I think there are some old forum topics about how to use it.

It isn't very complicated. I run the program in just seconds and then go back to the UB editor to equip the new civilians.
Re: I want civillians !!!![message #12889] Fri, 29 July 2005 08:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
The Dog Of War
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Thanks much i'll try it
Re: I want civillians !!!![message #12890] Sat, 06 August 2005 12:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
The Dog Of War
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www.jarheadin08@msn.com
Re: I want civillians !!!![message #12891] Tue, 09 August 2005 00:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
kropotkin

 
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Registered:May 2005
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Quote:
Originally posted by The Dog Of War:
I love guns Not the fancy old safari guns but the cool tactical style firearms like AR-15's, AK's, H&K U.S.P's, and 870's I know a lot about guns so ask questions that's the only way you learn S*** Right?
Hey when you shoot that little gun, is it better to rim the barrel or just polish the shaft ?
Re: I want civillians !!!![message #12892] Thu, 11 August 2005 11:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
The Dog Of War
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I don't understand ??
Re: I want civillians !!!![message #12893] Fri, 12 August 2005 10:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
CatSpam

 
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Location: Canada
Kropotkin, that was just rude.

Dog of War, I see your e-mail address. I'll try to get a copy of UB-MFE to you tonight.

Certainly within the next couple of days.
Re: I want civillians !!!![message #12894] Thu, 18 August 2005 21:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
kropotkin

 
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Well sorry just practising english. That was more urban than rustic I guess Smile

So you guys still inquire about last week squirrel count or what?

Pif-Paf! Little gun!
Re: I want civillians !!!![message #166149] Sat, 01 December 2007 10:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ergotoxin
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Registered:November 2007
Location: Czech Republic
Hi, Im looking for this program (UB-MFE) quite a long time, but cant find a link hosting for it... Would anybody upload or send it to me please? (my email is Rotary.Fist@seznam.cz) Smile
Re: I want civillians !!!![message #166209] Sat, 01 December 2007 17:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Khor1255

 
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You've got mail.
Re: I want civillians !!!![message #166227] Sat, 01 December 2007 18:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
JA fan

 
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http://jaggedalliance.strategyplanet.gamespy.com/downloads/ja2_programs.shtml

Here is the Roadkill map editor.The link to his page is still working.
Re: I want civillians !!!![message #166354] Sun, 02 December 2007 18:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ergotoxin
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Khor1255 - didnt receive any email Sad
Rudy Roberts - the link doesnt work, at least not here, tried it already.. and cant find anything about the editor on his page Sad
Re: I want civillians !!!![message #166358] Sun, 02 December 2007 18:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Khor1255

 
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I sent it again. Let me know if you don't get it.
Re: I want civillians !!!![message #166405] Mon, 03 December 2007 00:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ergotoxin
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Registered:November 2007
Location: Czech Republic
Got it! Thank you very much Khor, the editor is great! Thanks Smile
Re: I want civillians !!!![message #166434] Mon, 03 December 2007 10:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Will Gates

 
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& now you have editor here is trick for scheduling etc. Go to a NPC on any map and open their schedule, then go to your brand new NPC on any map and it will be open on their schedule (also important to specify grid number where applicable, just hover over them & write it down); you can also get faction info this way. Copy paste also works for if you want to get soldier on roof for instance.

Re: I want civillians !!!![message #166435] Mon, 03 December 2007 11:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Khor1255

 
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I don't get it.
Re: I want civillians !!!![message #166454] Mon, 03 December 2007 16:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Will Gates

 
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What's to get? Just some handy tips on how to trick the Map Editor into letting you see things it normally won't with any UBMFE placed persons. Grid nos especially important if you move somebody but forget to rewrite their grid number in the map editor schedule slot coz they will reappear in their OLD place even though you moved them!

plus they all need this backed up by prof.dat where applicable

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Re: I want civillians !!!![message #167161] Mon, 10 December 2007 13:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ergotoxin
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Registered:November 2007
Location: Czech Republic
Interesting, I see the UBMFE can place RPCs as well, however when I include some to the map, they dont show up in the game; is there anyway to activate those RPCs?
Re: I want civillians !!!![message #167162] Mon, 10 December 2007 13:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
the scorpion

 
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have you checked proedit(25) and the rpc's shedule?
Re: I want civillians !!!![message #186071] Fri, 23 May 2008 21:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
keithmcdaneld
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Registered:September 2006
Location: Omaha, Nebraska
Hey u think sum1 can send it 2 me? my email's keithmcdaneld@hotmail.com srry, or u can send me a link 2 it that works that doesnt require a subscription
Re: I want civillians !!!![message #188276] Wed, 11 June 2008 14:49 Go to previous message
Will Gates

 
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Location: Far far away.
ergotoxin: check schedule is also set to "stay in sector" or they'll only show up on your second visit to map (this might be something you want to happen or not as the case may be(.

keithmcdaneld: JA Galaxy etc. It's not clear what you want sent anyway: UBMFE or Pro-Edit?

http://www.jagalaxy.com/filedb/index.php

:blah:

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