The Bears Pit: JA2 Renegade Republik » RR and new inventory and xml editor

Messages:539
Registered:September 2006
Location: Netherlands

Grrr, yes i had 2124.
Do it all again.

First Sergeant

Re: RR and new inventory and xml editor[message #193302]

Sat, 09 August 2008 01:01

Messages:244
Registered:May 2007
Location: Aberdeen Washington USA

Blue_Fox, Welcome to the club.

Lockie, you sure got that right.

Sergeant 1st Class

Re: RR and new inventory and xml editor[message #193304]

Sat, 09 August 2008 02:03

Messages:539
Registered:September 2006
Location: Netherlands

Sorry wenn i tell you this.
(Lets review; load in this order, ja2, 1.13. at this point i would suggest start the game to make sure of good install. then install renegade republic, right click, unzip to c:\program files\strategy first\Jagged Alliance 2. Now open folder Jagged Alliance 2 and you should see at least two exes. one of which will be B17. start game with this EXE. If that is good then load any patches you may have .)
Works fine.
Wenn add the patches it goes wrong.

the order should be, addition1, faces, hotfix1, NIV patch. NOTE: these all expand to JA2 main directory.

I did it like you say it but still have the items wrong Sad

[Updated on: Sat, 09 August 2008 02:04] by Moderator

First Sergeant

Re: RR and new inventory and xml editor[message #193305]

Sat, 09 August 2008 02:31

Messages:244
Registered:May 2007
Location: Aberdeen Washington USA

Well I am sorry that I am of no help. I tried to list things in a way that would let you track your progress as you went through the install process so you could easier identify when and where things went wrong.

Did you 1. change the ja2 INI file to read data-renegade instead of data 1.13?

2. move the data-renegade folder from rr to JA2 main folder?

3. try to start the game with each of the exes, there should be several.

Sergeant 1st Class

Re: RR and new inventory and xml editor[message #193306]

Sat, 09 August 2008 02:39

Messages:539
Registered:September 2006
Location: Netherlands

> 1. change the ja2 INI file to read data-renegade instead of data 1.13?
NO, i missed this and still not find it.

> 2. move the data-renegade folder from rr to JA2 main folder?
YES

> 3. try to start the game with each of the exes, there should be several.
YES

Searching the posts for change the INI.

Edit:
Wasnt bugfree either without the patches. Loaded an IMP with Coated Kevlar Armor and they seems to had wrong settings too.

JA2.ini was:
CUSTOM_DATA_LOCATION = Data-Renegade

Very annoying.
I unpacked all again, maybe there was a bad file in it Sad

This is more annoying than the Fallout2 MIB Mod Sad

[Updated on: Sat, 09 August 2008 02:56] by Moderator

First Sergeant

Re: RR and new inventory and xml editor[message #193307]

Sat, 09 August 2008 03:04

Messages:244
Registered:May 2007
Location: Aberdeen Washington USA

ok you are making progress. slow down.

JA2.ini was:
CUSTOM_DATA_LOCATION = Data-Renegade THIS IS CORRECT.

this tells the exe where to find the game you want to play.

just a thought; it might be easier to get the game running first, then mess with custom IMPS later.

Sergeant 1st Class

Re: RR and new inventory and xml editor[message #193308]

Sat, 09 August 2008 03:15

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Registered:September 2006
Location: Netherlands

Im an OldNoob to friend Very Happy

Made 1001 maps/scripts (other game), so for me this is really very annoying i dont understand it wont work.
Wenn test with Raider, he has SWAT ARMOR the same issue appears.
He wearing his Pants on his Head, so he's really thinking with his D*** Smile

So...

Even installed the Dutch & English version of JA2

Clear the registry doesnt make sence. Where can it be?

First Sergeant

Re: RR and new inventory and xml editor[message #193309]

Sat, 09 August 2008 03:38

Messages:244
Registered:May 2007
Location: Aberdeen Washington USA

ME LIKEE MAPS!

what are you playing German? If so that game has it's own set of issues.

Thank you for your friendship. the world needs more friends!

If you notice , I spell OLDNOOOB with three OOO's because I don't know sh*t. I just keep pushing buttons until something works. and believe it or not I have reinstalled this mod over ten timed in the last seven days! and It's not the mod it's just me and the features " I " want to play.

Sergeant 1st Class

Re: RR and new inventory and xml editor[message #193311]

Sat, 09 August 2008 05:02

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Registered:September 2006
Location: Netherlands

Keep switching with JA-Fallout2-C&C generals Very Happy

But not really play games, more interesting whats they all have done and what i can change, so really wanna play this new.

Now just play without the NIV. Have my 5 IMP's.
Btw the Katana is replaced with the Huge sniper, lol.
Not wanted that in the beginning of the game. OM 50 NEMESIS KM-3. Have 11 shots Smile

Im a stealth noob, like beat or knife them. Not like sound.
At least i have my nunchaku's - beatsticks ?

First Sergeant

Re: RR and new inventory and xml editor[message #193325]

Sat, 09 August 2008 15:36

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Registered:September 2006
Location: Netherlands

Can one explane my why my Inventory still messed up.
I keep installing it like you say.

First Sergeant

Re: RR and new inventory and xml editor[message #193326]

Sat, 09 August 2008 16:00

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Registered:September 2006
Location: Netherlands

Let me explane again what i did !

- Installed new Ja2
- Installed JA2_v1.13_Release_(EN)_[1.0.0.2085].exe
- Unpacked 113_renegade_republic_beta.7z and moved Data-renegade folder into Ja2 Folder.
- Unpacked addition1 and moved into Ja2 folder
- Unpakced faces addidtion and moved into Ja2 folder
- Unpacked hitfix1 and moved into Ja2 folder
- Unpacked RR to NIV patch and moved into Ja2 folder

WHY IT NOT WORKING !!!

Wenn check Item List, there are some weird things.
AR Match Trigger - To-Hit 5% - Laser Range 150 - Range 20 ?
Looks like almost all scopes have laserrange added.
What can went wrong while extracting or copying/moving.
This is really really annoying.
Armors are wrong, ammo be replaced into other ammo.

Can someone give me working data, not wanna modify all items. Very frustrating.
Wanna play the game. I played yesterday some time with the b17.exe and there where also problems.

[Updated on: Sat, 09 August 2008 16:49] by Moderator

First Sergeant

Re: RR and new inventory and xml editor[message #193338]

Sat, 09 August 2008 19:37

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Registered:February 2006
Location: Scotland

you should be playing with 2124 exe . , it all works perfectly well for me , and thats saying something :biglaugh: , try not to mess around with imps etc. and enjoy the game , if you can .

Captain

Re: RR and new inventory and xml editor[message #193343]

Sat, 09 August 2008 20:31

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Registered:September 2006
Location: Netherlands

Let me explane myself again !
Played sometime with 1.13 and never had this problem.
Did all new, not messing with IMP or XML editor.
And of cource i use 2124.exe.

Im really sick about it by now.
Wenn its not working tomorrow i reinstall my compleet systeem.
Using my ghost image Sad

Only the basic PC programs.

[Updated on: Sat, 09 August 2008 21:44] by Moderator

First Sergeant

Re: RR and new inventory and xml editor[message #193351]

Sat, 09 August 2008 23:31

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Registered:February 2006
Location: Scotland

:whoknows: , well somethings obviously gone wrong , beggared if I know though , sorry !

Captain

Re: RR and new inventory and xml editor[message #193401]

Sun, 10 August 2008 17:55

PFM

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Registered:July 2006
Location: Czech Republic

scorpion

I found out that when you have a weapon(generally any item) with an "invisible" attachment, you have to:
1. double click on the "invisible" attachment
2. flag the item as attachment

I found this "bug" mostly in scopes and rifle accessories

And my last post - maybe I'm using outdated XML files. I just wanted to inform you about "bugs" I found. I'm not sure which version of XML files is the latest one :whoknows:

[Updated on: Sun, 10 August 2008 17:56] by Moderator

Private 1st Class

Re: RR and new inventory and xml editor[message #193407]

Sun, 10 August 2008 20:40

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i don't even know what you mean by "invisible attachment"

Sergeant Major

Re: RR and new inventory and xml editor[message #193410]

Sun, 10 August 2008 21:01

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Registered:September 2006
Location: Netherlands

Ok boys...
I just reinstalled my system. Backup image, Window XP & primairy programs.

English version Installed JA2, so its real fresh.

But now im scared to install whatever needed to run RR like it suppose to run.

Can someone tell me the steps to installed it.

EDIT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WHATS GOING ON ?

DID ALL FRESH, unpacked all again.
Start new game with RAIDER TO CHECK HIS SWAT ARMOR

STILL MESSED UP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

CAN SOMEONE MAKE A COPY OF HIS ITEMLIST AND PLACE IT HERE.

GUNS HAVE WRONG AMMO TOO

[Updated on: Sun, 10 August 2008 21:30] by Moderator

First Sergeant

Re: RR and new inventory and xml editor[message #193445]

Mon, 11 August 2008 05:05

Marlboro Man

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Registered:October 2005
Location: USA

Are you putting the "additions", "faces", "hotfixes" and NIV patch into the "data renegade" folder? Everything needs to go inside that folder and allowed to overwrite.

I am not sure about the NIV patch yet, because I have not had a chance to try it. But I am assuming it also goes into there.

Edit: And also the "Configuration Settings" (INI) file in the JA2 root folder has to be pointing to the correct custom data location. "CUSTOM_DATA_LOCATION = Data-Renegade"

[Updated on: Mon, 11 August 2008 05:08] by Moderator

Sergeant Major

Re: RR and new inventory and xml editor[message #193446]

Mon, 11 August 2008 05:23

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Registered:September 2006
Location: Netherlands

Yes............... Of cource i did. Else it wont run at all.

First Sergeant

Re: RR and new inventory and xml editor[message #193478]

Mon, 11 August 2008 13:46

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Registered:September 2004
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questions

1. lockie, oldnoob: do you get wrong armours too? do you get wrong ammo/ magazines too?

2. blue_fox: do you use something i should know? like a german version of 1.13 or somesuch?

advice

i don't know who made what .7z file. i didn't make or release that file so whenever stuff like this including outdated patches make the way into your installs, you're using them at your own risk.

Sergeant Major

Re: RR and new inventory and xml editor[message #193485]

Mon, 11 August 2008 15:36

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Registered:February 2006
Location: Scotland

Quote:

1. lockie, oldnoob: do you get wrong armours too? do you get wrong ammo/ magazines too?

So far , nope !

Captain

Re: RR and new inventory and xml editor[message #193490]

Mon, 11 August 2008 17:22

Messages:244
Registered:May 2007
Location: Aberdeen Washington USA

Scorpion, So you are saying addition1, faces. hotfix1 are outdated and not to be used?

Sergeant 1st Class

Re: RR and new inventory and xml editor[message #193502]

Mon, 11 August 2008 18:48

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no.

there are other hosts that had outdated versions of the RR to NIV patch online. i don't control any hosting or mirroring except for patches from my site (the ja2 vengeance freewebs site)

i was asking if you guys get wrong magazines when unloading weapons, e.g. when unloading the type 65 or the gepard.

see the xml's in questions are correct so there must be something specific that is missing/ wrong. I have a feeling it may be related to the language specific files.

Sergeant Major

Re: RR and new inventory and xml editor[message #193504]

Mon, 11 August 2008 19:03

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Location: Aberdeen Washington USA

I asked a couple of days ago if it would be possible for you to combine addition1, faces, hotfix1,NIV patch into one. Would that be possible?

Sergeant 1st Class

Re: RR and new inventory and xml editor[message #193512]

Mon, 11 August 2008 20:17

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Registered:September 2006
Location: Netherlands

the scorpion

questions
2. blue_fox: do you use something i should know? like a german version of 1.13 or somesuch?
advice

i don't know who made what .7z file. i didn't make or release that file so whenever stuff like this including outdated patches make the way into your installs, you're using them at your own risk.

JA2_v1.13_Release_(EN)_[1.0.0.2085].exe

So the problem can be in the .7z file?
Have another problem with Wildfire 6 and NIV. Why they use open source packers?

I ask it again.

I tried it with ja2 Dutch version & ja2gold.
svn 1.13, ja2RR b17 zip (downloaded 6/22/2008),addition 1 zip (same date),hotfix 1 zip (same date), TableData_RR_07_2008 zip, RR to NIV patch rar.

So whats the problem.
I even cleared my registry after deinstalled all Jags.

First Sergeant

Re: RR and new inventory and xml editor[message #193524]

Mon, 11 August 2008 21:06

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Blue_Fox

JA2_v1.13_Release_(EN)_[1.0.0.2085].exe

So the problem can be in the .7z file?
Have another problem with Wildfire 6 and NIV. Why they use open source packers?

I ask it again.

I tried it with ja2 Dutch version & ja2gold.
svn 1.13, ja2RR b17 zip (downloaded 6/22/2008),addition 1 zip (same date),hotfix 1 zip (same date), TableData_RR_07_2008 zip, RR to NIV patch rar.

Tabledata_rr_07_2008.zip is certainly wrong. While the RR to NIV patch shoudl have fixed most mistakes you get from it, i still advise to only install my mod and my patches

i don't know this .7zip file. Thus i can't say if you get errors from there. You normally shouldn't given the RR to NIV patch should fix most/ all of them even if there were any.

So i guess you have most necessary files, but there might be an installation mistake or something. Please see the other threads in the part of the forum, as oldnooob and lockie have had a lot of questions and the solution to your problem might be in there somewhere too.

I'm not going to merge any patches right now. I may merge once i have the feeling that this latest NIV patch is properly debugged and the overall gain is worth the trouble.

Sergeant Major

Re: RR and new inventory and xml editor[message #193525]

Mon, 11 August 2008 21:13

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Location: Netherlands

Thanks, i try it out.

I JUST DONT GET IT.

REINSTALLED JA2GOLD

svn 1.13, ja2RR b17 zip (downloaded 6/22/2008),addition 1 zip (same date),hotfix 1 zip (same date), RR to NIV patch rar.

Still messed up Sad

Doesnt make sence. It works fine for Ja2Gold.

Another issue, not related to RR, but maybe interesting for you.

Again installed WF.
So i wanted to check the inventory from mercs with the XML editor.

Maybe there's the issue.

Unhandled error. Please report to Madd Mugsy.
Error:
Could not find a part of the path:\programs files\Jagged Alliance Wildfire\Data-1.13\lookup\MergeType.xml.

JA2Data.xsd?

[Updated on: Mon, 11 August 2008 21:51] by Moderator

First Sergeant

Re: RR and new inventory and xml editor[message #193534]

Mon, 11 August 2008 22:14

Messages:244
Registered:May 2007
Location: Aberdeen Washington USA

Scorpion, PLEASE, I sent you a screenshot the other day showing a runtime error. Will you please tell me where to find a fix for this? I just reinstalled RR this morning and I ran the game after each step to identify problems and all steps were fine up until after I extracted the (latest)rrniv patch. so now I have three complete RR installations with the same error and I don't know where to look to find the right file or whatever. tile.pcx is nowhere to be found in any of my data files anywhere. A simple response would be very much appreciated.

Sergeant 1st Class

Re: RR and new inventory and xml editor[message #193541]

Mon, 11 August 2008 23:15

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Registered:February 2006
Location: Scotland

what gameday are you at ? I only started having problems first time around at about day 60 .
As for cambria hospital , scorpion you sneaky devil ! Very Happy

.
guess I'LL have to really start sneaking about .....

Captain

Re: RR and new inventory and xml editor[message #193548]

Tue, 12 August 2008 00:14

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Registered:September 2004
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this is why i say please guys be accurate with error messages

what did you do immedietely prior to this run time error message? trying to fire a grenade?

(40mm vog-25t?)

if the answers was yes then please be so kind and install the latest patch that has the files necessary. Oh wait, i told you to fix it manually because you had changed your xml's. I explained where to place the .sti files explictily and in detail in my email response.
check your data/renegade/tilecache folder for the existence of these files: newsmallexp.sti and newlargeexp.sti

my guess is they aren't there. get them from the latest patch.

did you do what i told you to do couple of emails prior? your screenshot implies you just didn't do what i told you to do. Smile

blue fox

see the other thread where people tell you how to install the WF hybrid. It all comes really down to reading and doing what's written there.

as for renegade republic, please read the goddamn threds. you install 1.13. the you install renegade republic main download from there http://area.xrmb2.net/area?location=dwnMods_2

it is 350 or something megas large. according to what you write yourself i don't think you have properly downloaded and installed this file(s)

read the damn readme that comes with it, it tells you all you need to know

then after that is installed, test renegade republic if it works

then install all the patches in the order like the thread "patches and additions" sais and then at the very end use the RR to NIV patch.

sorry if i sound fed up but i have written these things dozens of times now and people will have to learn how to read threads and readme's for i won't be playing everybody's ja2 analogy to google and wikipedia and reading comprehension teacher for much longer.

once you guys get your stuff to work i'll probably close this thread and open a new one where people can still get some information Very Happy

rather than just rants from me.

Sergeant Major

Re: RR and new inventory and xml editor[message #193551]

Tue, 12 August 2008 00:44

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Location: Aberdeen Washington USA

Oh but I did. and I have reloaded this whole thing many many times during the last week and now I cannot even get the damn thing to eliminate this even with the simplest basic installation which is what I completed just this morning. just gold, svn, rr, data-renegade moved to ja2 directory, hotfix1 extracted to data-renegade, faces extracted to data-renegade, hotfix1 extracted to data renegade, RRNIV (latest 8/6/2008) patch extracted to ja2 folder. run exe2124, hire Ivan, fire off 40mm vogt, runtime error.

If you would be so kind to simply suggest somewhere to look for the missing file or tag or whatever I could then try to recreate it. I have right now three games with this problem and i have deleted and reinstalled many, many, files and folders trying to create a workable game without this problem. who can play JA without explosives?

This will be the last time I ask for your assistance.

Sergeant 1st Class

Re: RR and new inventory and xml editor[message #193553]

Tue, 12 August 2008 01:41

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OLDNOOOB

If you would be so kind to simply suggest somewhere to look for the missing file or tag or whatever I could then try to recreate it. I have right now three games with this problem and i have deleted and reinstalled many, many, files and folders trying to create a workable game without this problem.

see my post above. newlargeexp.sti and newsmallexp.sti data-renegade/tilecache folder.
i think it was pretty explicit there.

these missing files are the ones causing the error message on your screenshot (same with the mortar)
they're supposed to be part of the latest patch. Please let me know immedately if they aren't. That's the third time i give this advice. once through email, twice in this thread.

Sergeant Major

Re: RR and new inventory and xml editor[message #193600]

Tue, 12 August 2008 14:16

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lol my xml sais the vog-25p uses "blow.sti" for an animation

now oldnooob sent me a screen, he clearly has this animation. so what the hell is wrong?

i'll need more time to find out what that's all about. same with armours and the like. I'll see to it that it can be fixed like next week or so. i'm puzzled with the variety of different feedback i get concerning this patch.

Sergeant Major

Re: RR and new inventory and xml editor[message #193604]

Tue, 12 August 2008 15:19

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so the problem is isolated. i just need a way to fix it in a way that bloody xml editor can hanlde Smile

Sergeant Major

Re: RR and new inventory and xml editor[message #193607]

Tue, 12 August 2008 15:57

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okay, explosives are broken FUBAR. goddamn xml editor, reporting errors that are no errors yet missing data doesn't bother it at all... goddamn.

schicht im schacht