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Re: U.S. ongoing jobless claims rise to record 5.56 million- Are you still employed?[message #300350] Sun, 26 February 2012 12:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gorro der GrĂ¼ne

 
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Re: U.S. ongoing jobless claims rise to record 5.56 million- Are you still employed?[message #300354] Sun, 26 February 2012 15:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
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Re: U.S. ongoing jobless claims rise to record 5.56 million- Are you still employed?[message #300356] Sun, 26 February 2012 16:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
Logisteric
tao originally 'wanted' to decreas the american population. a proxy war has no effect in that respect.


Wrong again...

I don't "want' to decrease the American population. I stated that it was one of two solutions to the unsustainable economic system that we have imposed.

Proxy wars do decrease populations through two ways:

1) Casualties

Confucius (551-478 BCE) and other Chinese writers cautioned that, "excessive growth may reduce output per worker, repress levels of living for the masses and engender strife." Confucius also observed that, "mortality increases when food supply is insufficient; that permanent marriage makes for high infantile mortality rates, that war checks population growth."

2) Relocation of citizens

In ancient Greece, Plato (427-347 BCE) discussed the best population size for Greek city states such as Sparta, and concluded that cities should be small enough for efficient administration and direct citizen participation in public affairs, but at the same time needed to be large enough to defend themselves against hostile neighboring city states. In order to maintain a desired population size, the philosophers advised that procreation, and if necessary, immigration, should be encouraged if the population size was too small. Emigration to colonies would be encouraged should the population become too large.



Also,

Aristotle concluded that a large increase in population would bring, "certain poverty on the citizenry, and poverty is the cause of sedition and evil." To halt rapid population increase, Aristotle advocated the use of abortion and the exposure of newborns.

While some believe that reduction of the population is a key to economic growth, others argue that population reduction should be focused on what they judge to be undesirable sections of the population

Newer research has been done by the U.S. National Security Council, in a study entitled National Security Study Memorandum 200, under the direction of Henry Kissinger in 1974. This report stressed that only 13 countries are projected to account for 47 percent of the world population increase by the year 2050. This, it is argued, (due to its impact on development, food requirements, resources and the environment) adversely affected the welfare and progress of countries concerned. It further argued that this would undermine the stability of countries friendly to the US and therefore harm the "national security" of the US as well.

Pimentel and Giampietro believe that agricultural crises will develop, but they will only begin to impact us after 2020, and will not become critical until 2050.[28] Geologist Dale Allen Pfeiffer claims that coming decades could see spiraling food prices without relief and massive starvation on a global level never experienced before.

Another study has been done by the National Audubon Society which recently released a 16-page document called "Population and Habitat: Making the Connection." In this study, population control is widely supported.



Shall I continue?

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Re: U.S. ongoing jobless claims rise to record 5.56 million- Are you still employed?[message #300358] Sun, 26 February 2012 17:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Before you continue -and to get an actual basis for discussion- can you tell us which population this reduction is actually aimed at? World pop. as a whole? US pop.? Some other country or region? It isn't quite clear from your usual vague comments.


Re: U.S. ongoing jobless claims rise to record 5.56 million- Are you still employed?[message #300360] Sun, 26 February 2012 17:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
It started out as a discussion about US jobs and the perceived notions of relief from economic crisis from a capitalistic/globalist stand point. As usual, I think way to analytically for others' tastes and lose some of the trail from sheer neglect of conveying train of thought.

On a whole it is indeed aimed at the whole world, but there are different degrees to which it is carried out based on numerous factors in varying areas of the world.


Re: U.S. ongoing jobless claims rise to record 5.56 million- Are you still employed?[message #300370] Sun, 26 February 2012 20:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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As usual, I think way to analytically for others' tastes and lose some of the trail from sheer neglect of conveying train of thought.


Or , you just cannot stick to the point .... :/


Re: U.S. ongoing jobless claims rise to record 5.56 million- Are you still employed?[message #300371] Sun, 26 February 2012 21:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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So, which scenario of (a) possible proxy war(s) will have an actual influence on world population? EU vs Russia on the North German Plain?


Re: U.S. ongoing jobless claims rise to record 5.56 million- Are you still employed?[message #300378] Mon, 27 February 2012 00:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
lockie
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As usual, I think way to analytically for others' tastes and lose some of the trail from sheer neglect of conveying train of thought.


Or , you just cannot stick to the point .... :/


Maybe so, although; with anything a myriad of possibilities of intertwined connectives exist.

DepressivesBrot
So, which scenario of (a) possible proxy war(s) will have an actual influence on world population? EU vs Russia on the North German Plain?


Why do you have to take it to the extreme?
You don't see what I am seeing....so what? When it hits and you are contemplating your next moves and/or plan of actions, just know that I already thought about it 10 years earlier.

Study history man. Nothing changes. No idea is original.


Back on topic:

Am I still employed? Yes, in fact I am do for a $6.40 raise in the upcoming weeks bringing my hourly wage to $19.45. In the near future I hope to be like Logisteric hopefully within 5 years. I would like to lead many. I want to join toastmasters too.
Re: U.S. ongoing jobless claims rise to record 5.56 million- Are you still employed?[message #300380] Mon, 27 February 2012 00:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DepressivesBrot

 
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Nice evasion.
Besides, as you're so fond of history: No plan survives contact. So go ahead, your 10 year old plan will fall apart the moment THEY make their move.


Re: U.S. ongoing jobless claims rise to record 5.56 million- Are you still employed?[message #300383] Mon, 27 February 2012 00:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
Get some pussy bro.
Re: U.S. ongoing jobless claims rise to record 5.56 million- Are you still employed?[message #300384] Mon, 27 February 2012 00:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Wow, wouldn't have thought you'd reach the universal I-have-no-more-arguments response that fast.


Re: U.S. ongoing jobless claims rise to record 5.56 million- Are you still employed?[message #300385] Mon, 27 February 2012 01:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
I already stated it, you don't see it. Yet, you insist on arguing that my view is wrong.

War is an industry, you already know that.
War is expansion for the winner.
War is spoils for the victor.
War is taking your nation's trash and dependencies and using them for foreign policy.
War is a calculated risk.
War is much bigger than guns and bombs.
War is information.


The United States has announced a full American military withdrawal. How many troops does that bring back to the US? That increases our population and creates even more competition in the job market, especially since veterans have preference over ordinary citizens.

Population control is simple:

Births < Deaths
Deaths > Births

Prescription pills are the number 1 killer. They are legal drugs. Drugs that have been lobbied to be acceptable.

Look at our food man. It is killing us. Look at our water. Ask yourself who is doing these things? Who is blanketing the sky with heavy metals trying to control the weather? Who is sending shock waves into the earth's mantle? Who is sending workers to third world countries with HIV in their syringes?

What happens if it is you? Look what your country did to it's own people less than 100 years ago.


What am I arguing anyways?
Re: U.S. ongoing jobless claims rise to record 5.56 million- Are you still employed?[message #300386] Mon, 27 February 2012 01:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DepressivesBrot

 
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You see what they let you see. You and other minds like you were carefully nudged into that role to make their own stories more plausible by comparison and thus more appealing to the masses. It's all just a tiny shard of a bigger picture that none of us will see before its completion.

Are you wrong? Am I right? There is no right or wrong anymore, so what does it matter? Maybe we'll see it one day, maybe not.

Good night


Re: U.S. ongoing jobless claims rise to record 5.56 million- Are you still employed?[message #300387] Mon, 27 February 2012 01:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
We all have the truth inside of us, even in behind lies....lies the truth.

I will admit that I don't know a god damn thing.


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Re: U.S. ongoing jobless claims rise to record 5.56 million- Are you still employed?[message #300942] Sun, 04 March 2012 17:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DaethWalker

 
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On topic: Basically unemployed by choice. Staying at home to take care of my dad. So, at the moment a "caregiver". Basics are covered, but not much more than that.
But, I'm easily employable, so if I need the extra income, I have a numerous list of jobs available.

Off Topic: The shit really hasn't even hit the fan yet. I expect things to get dramatically worst before they get better.

The housing market has still not really hit bottom.

Gold, Silver and other so-called "security hedges" are way overpriced, considering there is way more of it available than the general pucblic is led to believe: expect it to fluctuate in price for another few years before there is a huge market correction.

Thanks to speculators oil is way overpriced and will continue to be so until either new regulations or a huge crash: expect gas to hit $5.00+ per gallon this year and continue to rise for the next 2-3 years, which will have a chilling effect on pretty much everything else.

Food shortages will continue, not only in "third world" countries.

I suspect Israel will attack Iran's nuclear facilities within the next 6-12 months, so we can expect more problems in the middle-east.

I haven't a clue about North Korea. With the new kid in charge, it could go either way. We may see some stabilization in that area or it could really "go south" really quick.

The EU seems to be hanging by their fingernails to a ledge with a very fucking large drop beneath them. If they lose their grip in the next few months ... well, alot of people can basically bend over and kiss their proverbial ass goodbye.

If China doesn't get their act together in the next 10 years or so, they're totally screwed. Their industrial revolution is throwing up more pollution in a year than the US did during it's 1st fifty years during it's industrial revolution: expect rivers to catch fire, mass migrations from many of the worst polluted cities and industrial zones and huge spikes in birth defects, cancer, and various other pollution related health problems.

Most of Africa is still a lost cause, mainly because most of the rest of us still ignore it: expect more famine, more genocide, more piracy, etc...

Much of South America and all of Mexico: screwed by the warring drug cartels and indemic government corruption.

And of course, because we are a global economy, any country that's not really doing bad, will be basically screwed when the shit hits the fan elsewhere.

But, other than that, I see bue skys and sunny days in the forecast. Razz

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Re: U.S. ongoing jobless claims rise to record 5.56 million- Are you still employed?[message #301070] Tue, 06 March 2012 02:32 Go to previous message
Anonymous
We're number 1.

#1 America has the highest incarceration rate and the largest total prison population in the entire world by a good margin.

#2 There are more car thefts in the United States than anywhere else in the world by far.

#3 Of all the major industrialized nations, America is the most obese. Mexico is #2.

#4 The average American drinks more than 600 sodas a year - the most in the world.

#5 U.S. corporations sell more fast food and more soda than anyone else in the world by a wide margin.

#6 Nobody watches more television per week (28 hours) than Americans do. Although to be honest, people living in the UK are tied with us.

#7 The United States leads the world in credit card fraud.

#8 The United States has the highest percentage of one person households on the entire planet.

#9 The United States has the highest divorce rate in the world by a good margin.

#10 The United States has the highest teen pregnancy rate in the world by far.

#11 There are more school shootings in America than anywhere else in the world.

#12 The United States has the highest child abuse death rate in the world.

#13 There are more "deaths by reptile" in America than anywhere else in the world.

#14 The United States has the most lawyers per capita in the entire world.

#15 The United States produces more pornography than any other nation in the world.

#16 Americans take more prescription drugs than anyone else in the world.

#17 More is spent on prescription drug advertising in America than anywhere else in the world.

#18 The percentage of women taking antidepressants in America is higher than in any other country in the world.

#19 More people have been diagnosed with mental disorders in America than anywhere else on earth.

#20 The United States has the highest rate of illegal drug use on the entire globe.

#21 There is more credit card debt in America than anywhere else in the world.

#22 There is more mortgage debt in America than anywhere else in the world.

#23 There is more student loan debt in America than anywhere else in the world.

#24 The United States spends more money on government schools than any other nation on earth does.

#25 U.S. citizens spend more time in school than anyone else in the world. So why are so many of us dumb as a rock?

#26 Nobody in the world gets more plastic surgery done than Americans do.

#27 The United States leads the world in eating disorder deaths.

#28 According to nationmaster.com, the United States has the most total reported crimes in the world by far.

#29 Nobody has more airport security thugs groping women and children than America does.

#30 The United States spends much more on health care as a percentage of GDP than any other nation on the face of the earth.

#31 The United States has the most complicated tax system on the entire planet.

#32 The United States has the most laws on the entire planet.

#33 The United States spends more on the military than the next 12 nations combined, and yet the Obama administration is considering plans to unilaterally slash the size of the U.S. nuclear arsenal by up to 80 percent.

#34 The United States has the most foreign military bases in the world by far.

#35 The United States exports more arms to other countries than anyone else in the world.

#36 Americans spend more time sitting in traffic than anyone else in the world.

#37 Americans spend more money on elections than anyone else does in the world by a very wide margin.

#38 Every single year, the United States has the largest trade deficit in the world by far.

#39 The U.S. government wastes more money than any other government on earth does.

#40 The United States has accumulated the biggest mountain of government debt in the history of the world.


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