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Sarge - Unable to Learn?[message #244331] Tue, 16 February 2010 03:54 Go to next message
PAWJA2

 
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Hello,

I am probaly 1/4 way thru game, everyone I have is learning explosives with all those mines and booby traps. (Except MD as he is 0 - Zero)

Yet, Sarge has not learned 1 thing. Spooky has risen all the way to level 7, and some of his stats are pretty high. Yet Sarge has not moved up even in Markmanship where is has killed 40+ VC.

Not one skill has moved up...

Wondering, is this a bug, bad luck, or something else...

[Updated on: Tue, 16 February 2010 03:54] by Moderator

Re: Sarge - Unable to Learn?[message #244335] Tue, 16 February 2010 04:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Headrock

 
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It's quite possible, the game has flags for that sort of stuff (characters who can't learn). Len, for instance, can't learn anything in vanilla JA2. I don't remember the SOG characters, I'm afraid, but from what you describe it sounds very probable.


Re: Sarge - Unable to Learn?[message #244337] Tue, 16 February 2010 05:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
PAWJA2

 
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Thx!

If that is the case, then that makes sense.
Re: Sarge - Unable to Learn?[message #244562] Thu, 18 February 2010 19:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Roadkill

 
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Sarge indeed has his "evolution" in ProEdit set to "none", just like Len. Fixing it is easy, edit it using ProEdit (\Data\binarydata). But you'll have to start a new game for it to take effect though Smile
Re: Sarge - Unable to Learn?[message #245002] Mon, 22 February 2010 23:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
PAWJA2

 
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Cool, found Proedit.exe in binary data, made the change.

The file it changed was JA25Prof.dat

I assume that is the correct one as this is JA2 UB.

Now, have started over and have to test Sarge to see if works. Just found him again...
Re: Sarge - Unable to Learn?[message #246351] Sun, 07 March 2010 08:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hawkeye

 
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I seem to recall that was the original intention, that Sarge wouldn't learn new skills, like he was an old dog unable to learn new tricks.


Re: Sarge - Unable to Learn?[message #246505] Tue, 09 March 2010 05:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
PAWJA2

 
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@Hawkeye,

That may well be, but I find it kind of dumb. Even an old dog will learn, even if by just doing.

You cannot tell me if you threw 100 Grenades :bomb: a day, that you wouldn't at some point have better strength, and possibly better markmanship. Although maybe not as fast as someone willing to learn.

:pawprint:
Re: Sarge - Unable to Learn?[message #247239] Thu, 18 March 2010 04:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hawkeye

 
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Yeah I hear ya.

Just out of interest does anyone know of any other Mercs that had their learning ability turned off in any of the original JA games?


Re: Sarge - Unable to Learn?[message #247259] Thu, 18 March 2010 12:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Logisteric

 
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len - they changed in 1.13 - i always change it back
Re: Sarge - Unable to Learn?[message #247645] Wed, 24 March 2010 00:49 Go to previous message
PAWJA2

 
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Sarge - SOG '69 Vietnam Only
Len
Some S guy, I have to look again...

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