Re: Movie of the day.[message #268328]
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Wed, 15 December 2010 08:58
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In the above movie, the school children did not even realize that the Tartars (Manchus) were oppressing them. One kid asks his teacher if he had been to the hanging, as if it were a fun event. The teacher replies saying that it would be a lot funner if it were the Tartars (Manchus) they were hanging.
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Re: Movie of the day.[message #271137]
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Tue, 25 January 2011 10:54
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ridiculuos - this guy was an incompetent junker as you need one
- he started to change his mind after he was seriously wounded and the war went sour
- all those 'democratic' officers were anything but democratic, they wanted to reinstitude prussian three-class franchise which in fact kept ordinary people from having any say
- as hitler was heavily guarded the only way to get him was doing it the hashshashin-way - as an american you may heard of the reuse of that concept, it's even where the word assassin is derived from
- if he would have been serious he stood besides adolf and detonated that bomb, but there was a job in the propossed new goverbment waiting for him - oops
- the task to take out goebbels was not given to someone who knew about the plan but maj. otto ernst remer - as the german system of command encourages to ask question or at least allows own thoughts goebbels managed to put him through to adolf on the phone. this was the very moment when that poorly planned putch collapsed as remer took his men and started a hunt for the would-be putchists - if someone simply shot goebbels they would have succeeded
we may be very good in breeding military personnel, but we never made good assassins - remember what lenin said: if german revoluntionaries want to seize a railway station they queue up and buy platform tickets first - i'm afraid mr. ulyanow is right
stauffenberg's fame comes from the fact that at least somebody tried to do something and from the military's desire to witewash themselves after the war HAD ENDED. in the last year of the war you hardly found someone in the military not to see these guys as traitors who got what they deserved (they had broken a personnel oath to the f
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Re: Movie of the day.[message #271418]
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Thu, 27 January 2011 03:05
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Logisteric- you need one
- after he was seriously wounded and the war went sour
- reinstitude prussian three-class franchise which in fact kept ordinary people from having any say
- if someone simply shot goebbels they would have succeeded
- good in breeding military personnel
- see these guys as traitors who got what they deserved
- i'm afraid the movie is a lot of crap
- if you want someone to praise for, try georg elser
- Gem are lucky to had some people like them, if only Russia and China have more hero like them to deal with Stalin and Mao, as they are more monsters than Hitler.
- See, that I do not know why, Gem had and has the best army in EU and yet fail both WWs, maybe had something to do with they allied with the worst nations, who are either incompetent or useless, italy, jap, astru..... Yes, gem will never get france, cause she is gem eternal enemy, and uk alway playing power broker among eu. So, seems like matter not how powerful military gem is, she is destine to lose, cause war is the fight of resources in the end.
- that is why gem is always about, not good or bad but just what your history are, same for china.
- only history has if. but yeah, next time best do that first.
- that gem is.
- King is for the winner. Traitor is for the Loser.
- some say the gem version is better, only in gem language though. but hollywood version is more entertaining.
- Yes, he is another good one. but the sad fact is, assassination has and had never change history a bit, because there are bigger forces behind all this appearance face.
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Re: Movie of the day.[message #271423]
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Thu, 27 January 2011 03:14
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Logisteric |
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howareyou32Logisteric- you need one
- after he was seriously wounded and the war went sour
- reinstitude prussian three-class franchise which in fact kept ordinary people from having any say
- if someone simply shot goebbels they would have succeeded
- good in breeding military personnel
- see these guys as traitors who got what they deserved
- i'm afraid the movie is a lot of crap
- if you want someone to praise for, try georg elser
- Gem are lucky to had some people like them, if only Russia and China have more hero like them to deal with Stalin and Mao, as they are more monsters than Hitler.
- See, that I do not know why, Gem had and has the best army in EU and yet fail both WWs, maybe had something to do with they allied with the worst nations, who are either incompetent or useless, italy, jap, astru..... Yes, gem will never get france, cause she is gem eternal enemy, and uk alway playing power broker among eu. So, seems like matter not how powerful military gem is, she is destine to lose, cause war is the fight of resources in the end.
- that is why gem is always about, not good or bad but just what your history are, same for china.
- only history has if. but yeah, next time best do that first.
- that gem is.
- King is for the winner. Traitor is for the Loser.
- some say the gem version is better, only in gem language though. but hollywood version is more entertaining.
- Yes, he is another good one. but the sad fact is, assassination has and had never change history a bit, because there are bigger forces behind all this appearance face.
h
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Re: Movie of the day.[message #272655]
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Sat, 05 February 2011 02:28
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Logisteric1. good or evil - no shade of grey disturbing anyone
Then you gonna love this:
"Elite squad" aka "Tropa de elite"(BR).
A sequel was in theatres/theaters last year I think (so I'm hopeful it arrives here too!).
Also, for the "political" buffs:
Z! (No, not the ant!)
A greek/spanish '69 movie about/inspired by the assassination of Grigoris Lambrakis (a left-wing greek politician).
If you are not disgusted by B/W movies:
La battaglia di Algeri
(By an italian director! Yes, there was a time when we did good movies...)
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I forgot to comment on Inglorious Basterds'video posted by Tao (YES! I feel entitled to!).
It may be irrelevant, but is evident that (unlike A LOT of movies that involves italians), it evidently had a screenwriter that wrote the dialogue in real italian language. Too bad they didn't bring in a coach for the actors. While Landa seems to speak correct words in correct order (miracle!), the way he manages to f***-up all the accents makes the dialogue barely intelligible. He still deserved the statuette, tho. Even if the rest of the movie is, to me, (almost) total crap.
Sorry, I felt I had to point it out...
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Corporal
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Re: Movie of the day.[message #272735]
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Sat, 05 February 2011 18:44
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Rafaelito
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I forgot to comment on Inglorious Basterds'video posted by Tao (YES! I feel entitled to!).
It may be irrelevant, but is evident that (unlike A LOT of movies that involves italians), it evidently had a screenwriter that wrote the dialogue in real italian language. Too bad they didn't bring in a coach for the actors. While Landa seems to speak correct words in correct order (miracle!), the way he manages to f***-up all the accents makes the dialogue barely intelligible. He still deserved the statuette, tho. Even if the rest of the movie is, to me, (almost) total crap.
Sorry, I felt I had to point it out... I think it was all intentional. It is basically a spoof on the Italian World War II genre of films.
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Re: Movie of the day.[message #272738]
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Sat, 05 February 2011 19:25
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The "Italian WWII genre" doesn't actually exists (just some B-movies set during WWII, that's it).
Since even those movies are unknown, there isn't that much to "spoof", beside the "pulp" feel of B-series productions (of which uncle Q is found of). So the "intentional" part could be applied to the over-the-top/campy style, but the issue with the italian dialogue I mentioned is a typical hollywood oversight (at least this time they tried before failing).
Let me add this movie:
9 rota
Russian movie about their war in Afghanistan.
Too much HW for my tastes, but overall is a good flick.
howareyou32
Man, I know the third world's cops and govs are bad, but not that bad. I should feel lucky in uSA, even though her cops do have some bad apples. Well, good luck for Rio. Hope they have some people know and want to correct that.
Everyone in Rio knows. Things are even more complicated than shown in the movie.
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Re: Movie of the day.[message #272769]
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Sun, 06 February 2011 04:46
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RafaelitoThe "Italian WWII genre" doesn't actually exists (just some B-movies set during WWII, that's it).
Since even those movies are unknown, there isn't that much to "spoof", beside the "pulp" feel of B-series productions (of which uncle Q is found of). So the "intentional" part could be applied to the over-the-top/campy style, but the issue with the italian dialogue I mentioned is a typical hollywood oversight (at least this time they tried before failing).
Macaroni Combat
I feel as though I should add that Landa was not a native speaker.
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Re: Movie of the day.[message #272821]
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Sun, 06 February 2011 19:09
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RED CLIFF
Part I & PART II
DESTINY LIES IN THE WIND
(ORIGINAL INTERNATIONAL VERSION)
Simply amazing in every aspect. 280 minutes of pure brilliance. Nothing is left out. If you see one movie, make it this one.
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Re: Movie of the day.[message #272854]
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Mon, 07 February 2011 06:57
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I am on a Chinese movie type thing right now. So the only films I have watched recently have either been Classic Shaw Brothers or Chinese epics.
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Re: Movie of the day.[message #272928]
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Mon, 07 February 2011 22:09
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Rafaelito@Tao
If you are into action, don't forget to watch the John Woo ones, expecially those with Chow Yun-Fat.
Awesomeness granted. I just posted a John Woo. RED CLIFF. Thanks though. I am not as so much into action as I am into Chinese culture.
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Re: Movie of the day.[message #272944]
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Tue, 08 February 2011 03:53
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ElRaffa |
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Well, of course normally I am more interested when he deals with things such as the Triad, professional killers and hard-as-nails cops.
Since I already heard good things about "period pieces" JW made before mid-80s I really hope to find this Red Cliff at the video store.
Taoteaching
anyone, besides me, spend 4 hours and 40 minutes of their life watching this?
Hopefully I will.
As a personal rule of thumb, movies that lasts less than 100 minutes are rarely worth watching, and when movies are cut down due to "time concerns" we lose movies that otherwise would be universally considered masterpieces like Once upon a time in America (luckily the 3-hours cut is available) and, arguably, Lynch's Dune (lost forever, dang it!).
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