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Re: Movie of the day.[message #272952] Tue, 08 February 2011 06:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tao

 
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Trust me, you won't be disappointed.
It has something for everyone.
Red Cliff easily became one of my favorites.
It sucked me in and made me forget about the world I live in.
The film was based on Records of The Three Kingdoms, which also was the basis for one of the Four Great Classical Novels of Chinese Literature: Romance of the Three Kingdoms .

MAKE SURE YOU GET THE INTERNATIONAL VERSION.

Also,

Before watching Red Cliff
Read:
The [color:#FFFFFF]Art[/color] of [color:#CC0000]War[/color]
[color:#999900]Sun Tzu[/color]

It does not take a long time to read through.
You can find the Lionel Giles version for free on the internet. I literally made a cover page, printed it off, and made my own book.
Re: Movie of the day.[message #272955] Tue, 08 February 2011 07:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ha! So that's why the italian release is translated as "The battle of the three kingdoms". For a sec I thought it was another lame re-titling from our side (we had so many that now is a running gag).

I should have TAOW in pdf somewhere. Sure I know a lot of quotes, can't remember if and when I read it.

About the international version: it seems that it's the only one outside China, and when I rent, I rent in DVD, so it have good chances of being the long cut. Only problems are:
1) if Blockbuster have it.
2) if they have both! (or the double-DVD feature).

I leave you this South Korean pearl: Silmido.
Re: Movie of the day.[message #272958] Tue, 08 February 2011 10:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I did not know if you wanted the Italian version or not but here it is.

Red Cliff - La Battaglia Dei Tre Regni

It seems to be the long cut. 276 minutes
The US International version is 288 minutes.
Re: Movie of the day.[message #272959] Tue, 08 February 2011 10:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I don't know if it's been posted (I wouldn't be surpised) but the Search-function is seriously broken. Anyways, I saw this Stanley Kubrick-gem for the first time last weeekend:

http://supak.com/store/videos/images/dr-strangelove.jpg

Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb

This is truly a masterpiece in all aspects (screenplay, directing, acting etc.) and downright hilarious. It's comedy at its blackest and therefore quite subtle. Peter Sellers is nothing short of awesome, doing no less than three characters: a stereotypical British RAF-officer, the president of U.S. and last but not least Dr Strangelove himself (who brings down a laugh or two from the supporting cast which can be seen if you look closely).

The plot revolves around a pending nuclear annihilation and the political and logistical troubles to stop it. Funny and intelligent while suspenseful.

"Gentlemen! You can not fight here - this is a war room!"
Re: Movie of the day.[message #272961] Tue, 08 February 2011 11:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yes, Logisteric posted it.

Edit:

I found the link.
Link

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Re: Movie of the day.[message #272974] Tue, 08 February 2011 16:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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RED CLIFF
Part I & PART II
DESTINY LIES IN THE WIND

(ORIGINAL INTERNATIONAL VERSION)

Simply amazing in every aspect. 280 minutes of pure brilliance. Nothing is left out. If you see one movie, make it this one.
I have seen it and didn't realy get it: to long, to pathetical, typical Asian robot-like acting - and I wouldn't even comment on the combat scences (I mean you couldn't do worse than in Gladiator, but this is 2011 and not the 1960s, so a bit more realism would had helped).

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Re: Movie of the day.[message #273039] Wed, 09 February 2011 06:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Really?

Asian robot-like acting?
What did you not get? There is a lot of stuff that is unsaid in this movie. If you study Chinese philosophy you will see the light.

Also, I did not get what you meant about the battle scenes.
Re: Movie of the day.[message #273063] Wed, 09 February 2011 13:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Asian robot-like acting?
The actors in those movies often only show very little emotions (compared to actors in western movies), in return those movies work with a lot of symbolism and (to me) look a bit overloaded with it. I had expected John Woo to make it more Hollywood like in that aspect, but apperantly it rather was made for the Asian audience than that of the US or Europe.

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What did you not get? There is a lot of stuff that is unsaid in this movie. If you study Chinese philosophy you will see the light.
I think it is a movie about Chinese history, not philosophie.

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Also, I did not get what you meant about the battle scenes.
Single superheros who attack the entire enemy army on their own with their Kung Fu, and get away without a scratch? Battles won by turning around shields to blind the enemy? Fancy formations ballets and stuff like that? That's more 1970s style or that of cheap martial arts movies. In this movie I had expected a bit more realism. But I have to admitt that also Hollywood often miserably fails when trying to show pre-gunpowder combat. From the latest of that kind only Troy, even though otherwise being a rather crap movie too, has some scences that come close to it.

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Re: Movie of the day.[message #273083] Wed, 09 February 2011 19:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Asian robot-like acting?
The actors in those movies often only show very little emotions (compared to actors in western movies), in return those movies work with a lot of symbolism and (to me) look a bit overloaded with it. I had expected John Woo to make it more Hollywood like in that aspect, but apperantly it rather was made for the Asian audience than that of the US or Europe.


I don't know what you saw, but I saw a lot of emotion in that movie. The difference today is everything is so fucking dramatized. Hell even men act like teenage girl's in crisis because "Oh MY God!, my favorite hair brush is not where I left it!"
How the hell is a commander or general, supposed to act in a war? Calm...cool...Aggressive...hot...I saw both in this movie.

On a side note.
Americans and Europeans have become weak and overly dramatized. They have become lax in there day to day living. The Chinese want our standard of living and they are willing to put in 70 hour weeks,every week, for nearly nothing.

Buns
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What did you not get? There is a lot of stuff that is unsaid in this movie. If you study Chinese philosophy you will see the light.
I think it is a movie about Chinese history, not philosophie.


You forget that this is the golden age of taoism, Confucianism, Feng Shui (Chinese geomancy), and the Art of War.

By the way every movie is philosophy.


Buns
taoteching
Also, I did not get what you meant about the battle scenes.
Single superheros who attack the entire enemy army on their own with their Kung Fu, and get away without a scratch? Battles won by turning around shields to blind the enemy? Fancy formations ballets and stuff like that? That's more 1970s style or that of cheap martial arts movies. In this movie I had expected a bit more realism. But I have to admitt that also Hollywood often miserably fails when trying to show pre-gunpowder combat. From the latest of that kind only Troy, even though otherwise being a rather crap movie too, has some scences that come close to it.


I did not see kung fu in this movie.
This is a romanticized version of stories of legendary Chinese warriors.
I don't get how you complain about it not being "Hollywood enough" and when it does get "Hollywood" you complain about that.

You seem like a direct to the point forward kind of fellow. I bet you fight with pure anger and aggression. Preferring direct attacks and wanting the battle over as soon as possible.

Do you play chess?
Re: Movie of the day.[message #273326] Fri, 11 February 2011 15:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On a side note.
Americans and Europeans have become weak and overly dramatized. They have become lax in there day to day living. The Chinese want our standard of living and they are willing to put in 70 hour weeks,every week, for nearly nothing.
It is a cultural thing and not a result of bad acting. And also not related to being week or tough. Westerners have a different attitude to how and when show what kind of emotions, and also a different approach to display emotions in a movie.

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You forget that this is the golden age of taoism, Confucianism, Feng Shui (Chinese geomancy), and the Art of War.
and?

taoteching
This is a romanticized version of stories of legendary Chinese warriors.
In this case it should be labled as a fantasy movie, not a history movie.

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You seem like a direct to the point forward kind of fellow. I bet you fight with pure anger and aggression. Preferring direct attacks and wanting the battle over as soon as possible.
No reason to take it personal when I critize a romanticized display of legendary figures/action as certainly a-historical and rather unrealistical.

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Re: Movie of the day.[message #273352] Fri, 11 February 2011 18:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On a side note.
Americans and Europeans have become weak and overly dramatized. They have become lax in there day to day living. The Chinese want our standard of living and they are willing to put in 70 hour weeks,every week, for nearly nothing.
It is a cultural thing and not a result of bad acting. And also not related to being week or tough. Westerners have a different attitude to how and when show what kind of emotions, and also a different approach to display emotions in a movie.


Buns
taoteching
You forget that this is the golden age of taoism, Confucianism, Feng Shui (Chinese geomancy), and the Art of War.
and?


You stated:
Buns
I think it is a movie about Chinese history, not philosophie.

I stated: You forget that this is the golden age of taoism, Confucianism, Feng Shui (Chinese geomancy), and the Art of War.
Knowing the philosophy of that time is important to understanding human behavior of that time and place. It gives us more insight in understanding a film of a particular time piece. It is not mandatory that anyone do "research" before watching a movie. That is why we like things we know about and do things we are good at.

Buns
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This is a romanticized version of stories of legendary Chinese warriors.
In this case it should be labled as a fantasy movie, not a history movie.


I do not believe it was labeled as a pure history movie. It was based on actual historical texts, unlike many other works of the same events and thus is more historically accurate.
Can I ask you this? Could a U.S. NAVY SEAL fuck up more than one guy? More than two guys? More than three?

Buns
taoteching
You seem like a direct to the point forward kind of fellow. I bet you fight with pure anger and aggression. Preferring direct attacks and wanting the battle over as soon as possible.
No reason to take it personal when I critize a romanticized display of legendary figures/action as certainly a-historical and rather unrealistical.



I was just trying to coax you into playing chess.
Re: Movie of the day.[message #273468] Sun, 13 February 2011 01:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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DISCIPLES OF THE 36th CHAMBER

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/519IzNr5eUL.jpg

I can honestly say that out of all of the Shaw Brother's movies, this was the most disappointing. This is the third movie to carry not only the 36 chamber title, but also to star Gordon Liu. I had high expectations coming into this one. Gordon Liu was supposedly reenacting his role as San Te, unlike in Return to The 36th Chamber.

There are some good points. Action is good.

The story....I just didn't get it.????

I recommend this to fans of: The Shaw Brothers, Gordon Liu, or The 36th Chamber.
Any one else be sure to skip this one.
Re: Movie of the day.[message #273476] Sun, 13 February 2011 08:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I can honestly say that out of all of the Shaw Brother's movies, ...


so it belongs to the 'worst movies, i've ever seen'-thread?


Re: Movie of the day.[message #273491] Sun, 13 February 2011 17:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I wouldn't go that far.
Re: Movie of the day.[message #273701] Wed, 16 February 2011 18:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The Man Who Would Be King
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A very good real movie. Whoever want to be a king or will be a king must watch this one.
Re: Movie of the day.[message #273705] Wed, 16 February 2011 19:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Knowing the philosophy of that time is important to understanding human behavior of that time and place. It gives us more insight in understanding a film of a particular time piece. It is not mandatory that anyone do "research" before watching a movie. That is why we like things we know about and do things we are good at.
On the other hand, knowing the stuff often makes watching movies even worse experience.

taoteching
I do not believe it was labeled as a pure history movie.
I don't know what it was labled officially. I recently watched it on pay-TV and I had the impression it was advertized as a history movie. I am not saying it's the worst movie ever, or something like that. But I personally was rather disappointed. But well, there is no arguing about "like and dislike".

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Can I ask you this? Could a U.S. NAVY SEAL fuck up more than one guy? More than two guys? More than three?
depends on....

But if you are in for some realy fine hero crap I would like to direct your attention to English military history: they are so in in the "few vs. many/thin red line" tales that they don't have any problems with outright forging official documents.

taoteching
I was just trying to coax you into playing chess.

Haven't played it for ages.


howareyou32
The Man Who Would Be King
A good choice.


While we are at Sean Connery:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/92/Wind_and_the_lion_movie_poster.jpg/220px-Wind_and_the_lion_movie_poster.jpg
One of my favorite movies with him, and overall my favorite adventure movie.


Ah, and has this one already be mentioned:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/01/Lawrence-of-arabia-2.jpg/220px-Lawrence-of-arabia-2.jpg
Re: Movie of the day.[message #273707] Wed, 16 February 2011 20:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ahhh, Lawrence's history. Fascinating indeed.

But, for the Wind and the Lion, I do not know what the movie trying to tell us or it just a movie.
Re: Movie of the day.[message #273713] Wed, 16 February 2011 21:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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it is very loosely based on history (as an example misses petecaris was in reality a mister petecaris), but the deployment of us marines as shown is quite accuarate
Re: Movie of the day.[message #273798] Thu, 17 February 2011 12:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yes, in general it gives a fairly well account on the general situation in northern Africa prior to WWI. Overall it's a nice adventure movie not be taken to serious with excellent actors, good pictures and the right music. I realy like it.

A more serious movie, and probably the best war movie I have ever seen:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/ae/The_Thin_Red_Line_Poster.jpg/220px-The_Thin_Red_Line_Poster.jpg
Re: Movie of the day.[message #273870] Fri, 18 February 2011 06:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Movie of the day.[message #273890] Fri, 18 February 2011 20:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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When we try to change a system from within the system, it is not we who changes the system, but the system that changes us.
Re: Movie of the day.[message #273909] Sat, 19 February 2011 00:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51zKnbbubvL._SX500_.jpg There a many really funny movies about drugs (spun, pineapple express, ..), but this one is something else...
Great film, and great music (by clint marsell)


Tao, you're a martial arts buff? Do you know "Winners & Sinners", hilarious movie
Re: Movie of the day.[message #274020] Sun, 20 February 2011 22:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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What can we learn form this movie? Well, it is all up to us.
Re: Movie of the day.[message #274033] Sun, 20 February 2011 23:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You tell me man... You tell me first...
Re: Movie of the day.[message #274043] Mon, 21 February 2011 00:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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One thing, if one want to be successful in whatever they are doing, then first, they must be very good in whatever they are doing. And you do not need a "school" to teach you that, look at all the great hackers, they forces themselves to be very good at what do, no outside forces can do such thing.
Re: Movie of the day.[message #274049] Mon, 21 February 2011 00:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Agreed.
I think that I was paying to much attention to the caller.

In the words of Rumi:

Let the caller and the called disappear; be lost in the Call.


Call = Message
Re: Movie of the day.[message #274274] Tue, 22 February 2011 23:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Movie of the day.[message #274700] Mon, 28 February 2011 07:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I think some people saw this movie already, but if not, as a Bearper, one must see it.
Re: Movie of the day.[message #274701] Mon, 28 February 2011 07:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Is not that a television series?
Re: Movie of the day.[message #274702] Mon, 28 February 2011 07:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Cable Mini series. But very well done. One of the best things ever done about WW2.
Re: Movie of the day.[message #274704] Mon, 28 February 2011 09:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I saw this one as a very long good movie, as I also want many good movies as long as this one or longer. It is also another way to look at the "Nuts" and WWII events.
Re: Movie of the day.[message #274841] Wed, 02 March 2011 05:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Movie of the day.[message #274965] Thu, 03 March 2011 10:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Maybe we human are really just some kind of "food" for some super being. But, they will sure feel some pain when they try to get us. Or it just a movie.
Re: Movie of the day.[message #275106] Fri, 04 March 2011 19:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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[color:#006600]SHAOLIN MANTIS[/color]

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A story of desperation. It has a few twists and turns. The ending is simply unbelievable. Our hero did what he thought was right and still suffered.
Re: Movie of the day.[message #275109] Fri, 04 March 2011 19:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Mainstream's getting wonky again. Here, try something different. If you can find it, that is.
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Re: Movie of the day.[message #275110] Fri, 04 March 2011 19:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Tibetan book of the dead eh? Buddhism.
Re: Movie of the day.[message #275130] Sat, 05 March 2011 05:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Movie of the day.[message #275236] Mon, 07 March 2011 07:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Heroes of The East

AKA

Challenge Of The Ninja
Shaolin VS. Ninja
Shaolin Challenges Ninja


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Which is better? Chinese Martial Arts or Japanese Martial Arts? This was a very cool movie. I really liked the Chinese weapons versus Japanese weapons.
Re: Movie of the day.[message #275245] Mon, 07 March 2011 16:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Which is better? Chinese Martial Arts or Japanese Martial Arts? This was a very cool movie. I really liked the Chinese weapons versus Japanese weapons.

A good one indeed. But, you must ask like this, which brand of martial art is better, because there are thousand of brands. The jap learn most of their MA from CN, but they do did a good job to simplify it.
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Elite Squad 2
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It is so close, but yet so far away from the chaos. A good sequel.
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