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Faster Miguel & Carlos INI option[message #252123] Mon, 24 May 2010 09:39 Go to next message
Nitem4re

 
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Hi, I just coded this for myself, but if it interests you guys I can up the sourcecode. It's an ini option for being able to recruit Miguel & Carlos immediately after you finish the priest quest. Here is a link for an EXE I compiled :

http://www.mediafire.com/file/mz0i2mhzly2/JA2_MP_FASTER_REBELS.rar

It's based on the latest SVN code , you just need to add the line FASTER_REBELS = TRUE to [Recruitment Settings] (Right below the SLAY_STAYS_FOREVER option). Worked fine with a existing save game.
Re: Faster Miguel & Carlos INI option[message #252124] Mon, 24 May 2010 09:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ormus n2o

 
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Wow. Why that option is not in svn already? It would by cool if i can recruit miguel and carlos after 1-3 cities.
Re: Faster Miguel & Carlos INI option[message #252125] Mon, 24 May 2010 09:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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i want a 'nuke meduna on day three'-option in the ini - would make things a lot easier
Re: Faster Miguel & Carlos INI option[message #252130] Mon, 24 May 2010 10:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ormus n2o

 
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Lol. If u can chosse 1 milion on start or like 100 Ap + for u merc then why u cant chosse in what progress u can join to team good mercs. After grum Carlos is useles. And for what i need Miguel if i only need train militia in Meduna?


And BTW. Miguel should by head of army of rebels right? So he should by in every big battle specialy with militia.

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Re: Faster Miguel & Carlos INI option[message #252131] Mon, 24 May 2010 10:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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of course you can - you don't mind if i cannot understand why you bother playing at all with those figures? where is the fun with this kind of god-mode?

... btw i'm not related to majek
Re: Faster Miguel & Carlos INI option[message #252132] Mon, 24 May 2010 10:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ormus n2o

 
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I mean that if u get Miguel & Carlos when 1-3 cities are free then this is not cheat like 'nuke meduna on day three' or 1 Milnion on start.
Re: Faster Miguel & Carlos INI option[message #252133] Mon, 24 May 2010 10:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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not?

i have no prob with earlier rebells (in fact in my mod you get them earlier) - but two mercs for free with dimitri is worth more than a million, especially with ham and skill-related militia (miguel just pops out dark-blues) and if you play with ham-facilities fully turned on it'S probably better than 2 million
Re: Faster Miguel & Carlos INI option[message #252135] Mon, 24 May 2010 10:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ormus n2o

 
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If u turn it on, if u can train dark-blue if u TURN IT! If i don't then i wont get any of this. When i customize my Ja2_Options.ini i can ballance my game. I like play on Insane and make game challenge. But now i have only Meduna and Chitzena to free and going for Miguel & Carlos is waste of time and mercs.
Re: Faster Miguel & Carlos INI option[message #252197] Tue, 25 May 2010 01:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Personally, I'd like this to be an option. Not because I'd use it every time, but because I'd definitely use it now and then. Maybe I want to have Miguel throughout the game but leave Ira, Dmitri, and Carlos. Maybe I want to hear Miguel's or Carlos's commentary instead of Ira's when I enter early town sectors. Maybe I want to start with no money. There are lots of reasons.
Re: Faster Miguel & Carlos INI option[message #252199] Tue, 25 May 2010 01:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Maybe I want to hear Miguel's or Carlos's commentary instead of Ira's when I enter early town sectors. Maybe I want to start with no money. There are lots of reasons.


that won't happen - dimitri has no drassen-files, carlos and miguel lack even more
Re: Faster Miguel & Carlos INI option[message #252203] Tue, 25 May 2010 02:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Nitem4re

 
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Glad to see you guys are interessed, I personally use this option everytime I play. If anyone wants to merge with the SVN, i upped the source:

http://www.mediafire.com/file/kkddidywqmn/fasterrebelssrc.rar

All my changes are commented with "// RICK WAS HERE"
Re: Faster Miguel & Carlos INI option[message #252335] Wed, 26 May 2010 21:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I would like this feature to be added to SVN. When I play JA then I usually play slowly and by the time I could get Carlos and Miguel they are almost useless because I already have much better Mercs.

The only change that I would like to see is that you need to free another city before they join.

This way you could hire:

Ira - right from the start
Dimitri - after priest quest
Carlos and Miguel - after 2 cities have been liberated

Re: Faster Miguel & Carlos INI option[message #252336] Wed, 26 May 2010 21:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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well get an npc editor and change it in the relevant scripts
Re: Faster Miguel & Carlos INI option[message #252342] Wed, 26 May 2010 23:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I was looking for such an editor some time ago and couldn't find one. Only IMP editors or save game editors were available. After another search today I found a location and it was even in this forum! Very Happy

http://www.ja-galaxy-forum.com/board/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=166457&page=1

I'm going to try this NPC beta editor and see how it works.

Re: Faster Miguel & Carlos INI option[message #252980] Fri, 04 June 2010 11:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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well get an npc editor and change it in the relevant scripts


hey logisteric how do u do that?
Re: Faster Miguel & Carlos INI option[message #252981] Fri, 04 June 2010 11:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
wwor2002

 
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Nitem4re
Glad to see you guys are interessed, I personally use this option everytime I play. If anyone wants to merge with the SVN, i upped the source:

http://www.mediafire.com/file/kkddidywqmn/fasterrebelssrc.rar

All my changes are commented with "// RICK WAS HERE"


rick, sorry bro, but how do you activate the faster rebel thingy again?

i downloaded the exe file but what happened was a runtime error.

anyway, i am using SCI HAM3.6 + WF + AIM from goc_man.

Will there be any compatibility issues?

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Re: Faster Miguel & Carlos INI option[message #252982] Fri, 04 June 2010 11:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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you may set it to whatever you like - takes some try-and-error, though

npc-beta editor

Re: Faster Miguel & Carlos INI option[message #252983] Fri, 04 June 2010 12:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
wwor2002

 
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hey logisteric, both npcedit and npc file don't work on my windows..

it says i am missing some ocx files or something..

i guess i can only wait for rick to show me how to use his files in the svn..

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Re: Faster Miguel & Carlos INI option[message #252984] Fri, 04 June 2010 12:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Logisteric

 
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missing ocx means i upped a corrupt archive - gonna change that later today

edith:

you may want to try that - a new game is requirred to use these patches

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Re: Faster Miguel & Carlos INI option[message #252992] Fri, 04 June 2010 13:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
wwor2002

 
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missing ocx means i upped a corrupt archive - gonna change that later today

edith:

you may want to try that - a new game is requirred to use these patches


thanks logisteric.. is it gonna work with 1.13 + ham + aim +wf?

if it does, then maybe we should request this patch to be included in the newbie folder at the top of the forum.

Re: Faster Miguel & Carlos INI option[message #252994] Fri, 04 June 2010 13:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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it does
Re: Faster Miguel & Carlos INI option[message #252998] Fri, 04 June 2010 13:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Logisteric

 
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that may come from microfuck's tendency to play with filenames -> get rid of the '_' to solve that

edith: had a look - just delete the '_' at the end
Re: Faster Miguel & Carlos INI option[message #252999] Fri, 04 June 2010 14:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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cheers logisteric.. i removed the quotes around the filename and it is working right now on my mac.. transferring the npc57 and npc58 to c:\jaggedalliance2\data-hamstomp\NPCdata and starting a new game on novice and 3 IMP..

if it works i will report back..
Re: Faster Miguel & Carlos INI option[message #253001] Fri, 04 June 2010 14:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
wwor2002

 
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Ok Logisteric.. I just found out one problem..

I am using Gocman's Single Click Installers STOMP + HAM + WF + AIM

I was using the 4th download. Which is STOMP + HAM 3.5 + WF(maps only) + AIM. The exe file is JA2_1.13_STOMP1.0ALPHA_HAM3.5_COVER_PATCHED.exe"

However I discovered that in the NPCdata folder in the data-hamstomp directory, the NPCs run from 085 onwards.

In otherwords, theNPC data for 001 to 084 are missing and data-hamstomp directory is the directory to be used when playing Goc-man's hamstomp exe.

Did I do anything wrong? SHould I place the NPC files in other directories?

Re: Faster Miguel & Carlos INI option[message #253002] Fri, 04 June 2010 14:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Logisteric

 
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they don't - all what you do not see in that folder is taken from 'data_1.13/npc_data' -> 'data/npc_data' -> 'data/npc_data.slf' (in this order) => just throw 'em in
Re: Faster Miguel & Carlos INI option[message #253156] Sat, 05 June 2010 16:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hey logisteric.. i put the two npc files in that npcdata folder in hamstomp..

captured drassen and ormerta and still can't recruit miguel nor carlos..


is the patch for only 2 or 3 cities?
Re: Faster Miguel & Carlos INI option[message #253159] Sat, 05 June 2010 17:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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since when did omerta count?
Re: Faster Miguel & Carlos INI option[message #253161] Sat, 05 June 2010 17:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
wwor2002

 
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right is it possible for u to give me a patch that allows me to recruit miguel and carlos right after the drassen shipment? please? pretty please?
Re: Faster Miguel & Carlos INI option[message #253166] Sat, 05 June 2010 18:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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not today - got some heavy headache
Re: Faster Miguel & Carlos INI option[message #253193] Sun, 06 June 2010 10:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
wwor2002

 
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please give us the patch asap.. i think a lot of people is waiting for that patch as well..
Re: Faster Miguel & Carlos INI option[message #253198] Sun, 06 June 2010 10:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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please give us the patch asap.. i think a lot of people is waiting for that patch as well..


do you really consider that post helpful to your efforts?
Re: Faster Miguel & Carlos INI option[message #253199] Sun, 06 June 2010 10:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Probably if he was standing next to you in the pub , he'd be sobbing .


Re: Faster Miguel & Carlos INI option[message #253201] Sun, 06 June 2010 10:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Probably if he was standing next to you in the pub , he'd be sobbing .


if i take that 'pub' litterally he might even worse buy me some english beer :devilaugh:

lockie, if you ever want to bribe me in a pub, make sure they sell tenants (spelling?), guiness or something similar :cheers:
Re: Faster Miguel & Carlos INI option[message #253203] Sun, 06 June 2010 11:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It's Tennants , and we do have the Guinness available in large amounts , along with many fine ales beers and fortified wine ( Buckfast ! :puke: )


Re: Faster Miguel & Carlos INI option[message #253207] Sun, 06 June 2010 11:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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'bottled in england'? is i true that they transport gas on those tankers when underway to get that 'wine'
Re: Faster Miguel & Carlos INI option[message #253218] Sun, 06 June 2010 12:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Buckfast is a 'tonic' wine made by monks in Scotland , unfortunately , it's used as a badge ( of sorts) of rite of passage ( in the more poverty stricken areas), drinking this stuff from 10 upwards till they are old enough to get a social security payment , when their palate begs for more sophisticated drinks ,Tennants , perhaps,
or more regularly nowadays , a


Re: Faster Miguel & Carlos INI option[message #253219] Sun, 06 June 2010 12:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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never heard of that - i usually taste anything with the exception of roasted missionary - gonnna test it the next time i'm around - guess i won't appreciate it - wiki shows a tanker Smile

10 pounds?

you get 0.7 liter so-called brandy for
Re: Faster Miguel & Carlos INI option[message #253222] Sun, 06 June 2010 13:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Not booze ,sadly , my innocent friend Wink


Re: Faster Miguel & Carlos INI option[message #253223] Sun, 06 June 2010 13:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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oops


... and btw, it's been some time since someone called me 'innocent'

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Re: Faster Miguel & Carlos INI option[message #253239] Mon, 07 June 2010 00:43 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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FWIW, I like Laphroiag single malt. Tastes like a baseball glove. Smile
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