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Usage of crates/lockers?[message #253187] Sun, 06 June 2010 06:25 Go to next message
Whacker

 
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Hey guys, got a few questions.

I'm a huge pack rat (Downtown residents of The Hub in FO1 have nightmares about me stashing stuff in their homes) when it comes to these types of games. So I'm trying to figure out how I can safely stash my loot and where. So far, some guys in the chat have educated me on how to open/close crates and how to stick gear in closed crates by dropping items on them.

So here we go. I'm running v1.13.3356, no mods.

1. Is this a guarantee that no one is going to come and steal my stuff? Do the crates need to be closed, or can they be open? I noticed open crates with items in them will appear on the Sector Inventory list, leading me to believe they are not safe.

2. Is there a way to close crates and lockers when they've still got junk in them? I've stashed two LBE gears and some duct tape in a crate in Drassen Airport, and I went to go get the duct tape out. I couldn't figure out a way to close the crate with the two LBE gears still in it. Ctrl-clicking, right clicking, etc all didn't work. Is this just not possible?

Thanks!
Re: Usage of crates/lockers?[message #253192] Sun, 06 June 2010 10:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DepressivesBrot

 
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Hello Whacker and welcome to the Pit.

Ah, a fellow cyber messy Wink
Basically there are two instances in which stuff 'disappears'.
1) Loaded guns are often picked up by militia / enemy during fights, so unload all weapons.
2) If a sector is reconquered by the enemy and they leave a garrison there, they will slowly 'clear' the sector and 'confiscate' your illegal weapons cache (meaning it will simply disappear).

So the best way to secure your stuff is to keep it in sectors you intend to hold permanently or where no enemy passes through. If you really want to be on the safe side, store your stuff *in* the mines (i.e. the underground sectors), but that is really tedious and not recommended in 1.13 with drop all.

Personally, I prefer the central SAM site as my depot, but I play smeagols WF maps, where the SAM site *IS* a fortress and can easily be held by 2 cheap mercs against full 32+ attackteams at day without resorting to lame tactics.

I believe additionally using crates as storage isn't necessary, I can't remember an instance of stolen loot that couldn't be traced back to one of the cases mentioned above.

Oh, before I forget. Have a look at the hot keys, they'll really speed up inventory management so you can spend more time on important matters like comparing stats and deciding what to use instead of just sorting stuff for hours.


Re: Usage of crates/lockers?[message #253195] Sun, 06 June 2010 10:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
lockie

 
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Just yesterday I came across an Elite who ran about 10 squares and then proceeded to 'steal' the main weapon from one of my mercs ! Haven't had that happen before ( running latest SVN) Very Happy


Re: Usage of crates/lockers?[message #253197] Sun, 06 June 2010 10:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Logisteric

 
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there are - ever taken a place which wouldn't be fortified asap and wanted to keep that loot?

1. close that crate/locker/whatever - let's call it a container
2. the loot needs to be put on the same place where your CLOSED container is (needs training - me gotz mad when starting to do that)
3. => in sector-inventories no of items will show a rapid decrease (especially if you use no longer needed backpacks to 'bundle' the loot)
4. if you open that container you have to put it all back - keep that in mind and store the ammo somewhere else :devilaugh:


btw, i hate messy sectors



@ lockie:

i hope you somehow managed to get it back :scan:

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Re: Usage of crates/lockers?[message #253200] Sun, 06 June 2010 10:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
lockie

 
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lockie:

i hope you somehow managed to get it back


He died..... :rip:


Re: Usage of crates/lockers?[message #253209] Sun, 06 June 2010 11:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kazuya

 
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lockie
He died..... :rip:

The Merc or the Elite?
Re: Usage of crates/lockers?[message #253210] Sun, 06 June 2010 11:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Logisteric

 
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obviously the merc - don't think lockie spends money on headstones for the enemy (he's a scot)
Re: Usage of crates/lockers?[message #253211] Sun, 06 June 2010 11:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kazuya

 
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true, but on the other hand this enemy was obviously quite unique.
Re: Usage of crates/lockers?[message #253212] Sun, 06 June 2010 11:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Logisteric

 
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maybe a prayer (if barry's at hand) - but spending money?
Re: Usage of crates/lockers?[message #253216] Sun, 06 June 2010 12:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
lockie

 
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He died.....

The Merc or the Elite?


Oh the Elite of course , Spider had a revolver handy , and he WAS standing too close....


Re: Usage of crates/lockers?[message #253217] Sun, 06 June 2010 12:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
lockie

 
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maybe a prayer (if barry's at hand) - but spending money?


I don't pray and I enjoy spending my hard earned cash .


Re: Usage of crates/lockers?[message #253220] Sun, 06 June 2010 13:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
BallerDave

 
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lockie
Just yesterday I came across an Elite who ran about 10 squares and then proceeded to 'steal' the main weapon from one of my mercs ! Haven't had that happen before ( running latest SVN) Very Happy
Very Happy Very Happy

Happened to me a good while ago as well. Especially in the beginning where some of the enemy soldiers have no weapons and charge at you with a rambo knife from accross the sector.

Isnt that weird though? Hostiles without guns?
Re: Usage of crates/lockers?[message #253221] Sun, 06 June 2010 13:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
lockie

 
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Wonder if it's a 'feature' , or random action ? Odd though .


Re: Usage of crates/lockers?[message #253293] Mon, 07 June 2010 21:00 Go to previous message
Tao

 
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Sounds like S.T.O.M.P. An enemy with the athletics trait.
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