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Re: Quote of the day 2[message #293579]
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Tue, 15 November 2011 10:16
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Distinguish between those who understand and those who agree.
He who understands the Teaching will not tarry in applying it to life;
He who agrees will nod and extol the Teaching as remarkable wisdom,
but will not apply this wisdom to his life.
There are many who have agreed, but they are like a withered forest,
fruitless and without shade. Only decay awaits them.
Those who understand are few, but like a sponge they absorb the precious knowledge and are ready to cleanse the horrors of the world with the precious liquid.
-Buddha(Siddhartha Gautama[about 623 BC to 543 BC ])
Neither, if we mean our future guardians to regard the habit of quarrelling among themselves as of all things the basest, should any word be said to them of the wars in heaven, and of the plots and fightings of the gods against one another, for they are not true. No, we shall never mention the battles of the giants, or let them be embroidered on garments; and we shall be silent about the innumerable other quarrels of gods and heroes with their friends and relatives. If they would only believe us we would tell them that quarrelling is unholy, and that never up to this time has there been any, quarrel between citizens; this is what old men and old women should begin by telling children; and when they grow up, the poets also should be told to compose for them in a similar spirit. But the narrative of Hephaestus binding Here his mother, or how on another occasion Zeus sent him flying for taking her part when she was being beaten, and all the battles of the gods in Homer--these tales must not be admitted into our State, whether they are supposed to have an allegorical meaning or not. For a young person cannot judge what is allegorical and what is literal; anything that he receives into his mind at that age is likely to become indelible and unalterable; and therefore it is most important that the tales which the young first hear should be models of virtuous thoughts.
-Plato, The Republic, Book II
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Re: Quote of the day 2[message #294110]
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Fri, 25 November 2011 09:04
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The reason for all of this shit is this...There is going to be a BIG fucking war. Just like those couple of times before. It is chess. It happens for multiple reasons. One, de-populate. Two, make money on misery. Three, control, power, and consolidation.
Who are these people? Why do they not have morality like us?
-Tao
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Re: Quote of the day 2[message #294144]
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Sat, 26 November 2011 03:44
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What Orwell feared were those who would ban books. What Huxley feared was that there would be no reason to ban a book, for there would be no one who wanted to read one. Orwell feared those who would deprive us of information. Huxley feared those who would give us so much that we would be reduced to passivity and egotism. Orwell feared that the truth would be concealed from us. Huxley feared the truth would be drowned in a sea of irrelevance. Orwell feared we would become a captive culture. Huxley feared we would become a trivial culture, preoccupied with some equivalent of the feelies, the orgy porgy, and the centrifugal bumblepuppy. As Huxley remarked in Brave New World Revisited, the civil libertarians and rationalists who are ever on the alert to oppose tyranny "failed to take into account man's almost infinite appetite for distractions." In 1984, Orwell added, people are controlled by inflicting pain. In Brave New World, they are controlled by inflicting pleasure. In short, Orwell feared that what we fear will ruin us. Huxley feared that our desire will ruin us.
-Social critic Neil Postman contrasts the worlds of Nineteen Eighty-Four and Brave New World in the foreword of his 1985 book Amusing Ourselves to Death.
Note:
Maybe both?
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Re: Quote of the day 2[message #294293]
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Tue, 29 November 2011 20:05
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"We can't be so fixated on our desire to preserve the rights of ordinary Americans ..."
-Bill Clinton (USA TODAY, 11 March 1993, page 2A)
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Re: Quote of the day 2[message #299200]
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Fri, 17 February 2012 03:54
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Video games and militarism have an old history. Games of all sorts -- video games, board games, and games kids play in the backyard -- have historically been about conflict and warfare. Whether you're playing Chess, which is a simulated battlefield, or a game like Go, an ancient Chinese game that is also a simulated battlefield, or you're playing a board game like Risk or Axis and Allies, you're essentially at war and you're playing out military conflict.
-NINA HUNTEMANN
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Re: Quote of the day 2[message #299722]
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Tue, 21 February 2012 17:12
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Hoffer on Hope & Change
http://chicagoboyz.net/archives/28167.html#more-28167
Posted by David Foster on February 19th, 2012 (All posts by David Foster)
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The millions of immigrants dumped on our shores after the Civil War underwent a tremendous change, and it was a highly irritating and painful experience. Not only were they transferred, almost overnight, to a wholly foreign world, but they were, for the most part, torn from the warm communal existence of a small town or village somewhere in Europe and exposed to the cold and dismal isolation of an individual existence. They were misfits in every sense of the world, and ideal material for a revolutionary explosion. But they had a vast continent at their disposal, and fabulous opportunities for self-advancement, and an environment which held self-reliance and individual enterprise in high esteem. And so these immigrants from stagnant small towns and villages in Europe plunged into a mad pursuit of action. They tamed and mastered a continent in an incredibly short time, and we are still in the backwash of that mad pursuit.
Things are different when people subjected to drastic change find only meager opportunities for action or when they cannot, or are not allowed to, attain self-confidence and self-esteem by individual pursuits. In this case, the hunger for confidence, for worth, and for balance directs itself toward the attainment of substitutes. The substitute for self-confidence is faith; the substitute for self-esteem is pride; and the substitute for individual balace is fusion with others into a compact group.
It needs no underlining that this reaching out for substitutes means trouble. In the chemistry of the soul, a substitute is almost always explosive if for no other reason than we can never have enough of it
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Re: Quote of the day 2[message #299993]
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Wed, 22 February 2012 23:22
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I was referring about this mostly:
When a population undergoing drastic change is without abundant opportunities for individual action and self-advancement, it develops a hunger for faith, pride, and unity.
My question is this:
Cows are huge powerful animals that can thrive simply on grass and water. How come they all don't storm the barbwire fence and free themselves?
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The man who doesn't read good books has no advantage over the man who can't read them.
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Re: Quote of the day 2[message #300125]
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Thu, 23 February 2012 22:18
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taoI was referring about this mostly:
When a population undergoing drastic change is without abundant opportunities for individual action and self-advancement, it develops a hunger for faith, pride, and unity.
My question is this:
Cows are huge powerful animals that can thrive simply on grass and water. How come they all don't storm the barbwire fence and free themselves?
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The man who doesn't read good books has no advantage over the man who can't read them.
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Re: Quote of the day 2[message #300127]
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Thu, 23 February 2012 22:24
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Let's see, cows are the same as oppressed people?
My postings about cows were metaphorical good sir.
Quote:As to the Mark Twain quote, if the non reader is rich and the reader is poor who has the advantage?
But that's being silly anybody should realize that it's assumed that 'all things being equal.
That is taking the quotation in an entirely different direction and was not the intention of the quoter.
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Re: Quote of the day 2[message #300390]
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Mon, 27 February 2012 02:06
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no need for insults here.. just go have your diet coke, breathe the air, drink the tap water, inject your kids, stand for the body scan, watch tv.. oh, lots of tv.. and relax. sleep. sleep.
-rainingmind
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