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| Re: What is JA2 Reloaded[message #287718]
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Tue, 26 July 2011 23:58  
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Well after seeing several failed attempts at making a new jagged alliance game I was very skeptical of bitcomposer (taking away TBS did not really help). However after seeing the a three part trailer on gametrailers.com I am quite optimistic now, I think they will make a good game . For me jagged alliance was never just about TBS nor just the mercs; it was the overall experience that made the game so great. If Bitcomposer is able to give the same overall experience without TBS then that is okey for me.
And it would be nice of people stopped hating on the game and trashing it before we get a chance to play it, it is one thing to state that you are skeptical to the game and an other thing just trashing it as some members are doing (hating for the sake of hating). I am looking forward to this game and I hope I will not be disappointed.
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| Re: What is JA2 Reloaded[message #287736]
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Wed, 27 July 2011 02:37
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DassWell after seeing several failed attempts at making a new jagged alliance game I was very skeptical of bitcomposer (taking away TBS did not really help). However after seeing the a three part trailer on gametrailers.com I am quite optimistic now, I think they will make a good game . For me jagged alliance was never just about TBS nor just the mercs; it was the overall experience that made the game so great. If Bitcomposer is able to give the same overall experience without TBS then that is okey for me.
And it would be nice of people stopped hating on the game and trashing it before we get a chance to play it, it is one thing to state that you are skeptical to the game and an other thing just trashing it as some members are doing (hating for the sake of hating). I am looking forward to this game and I hope I will not be disappointed.
Originally I was taking a similar stance (that it could turn out okay and to reserve judgement until its actually released) but their marketing efforts have managed to change my mind on it -- I've now basically written it off. I haven't been trashing it, but its gotten too hard to be optimistic about it. So I'm basically sitting back and seeing if they can somehow stop the train wreck (or at least fire whoever has been handling their public relations/marketing :rolleyes:).
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| Re: What is JA2 Reloaded[message #291605]
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Thu, 06 October 2011 12:08
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MorboThat must be some pretty awesome vapor if they can get an entire convention of people to think it exists ... maybe you should lay off the vapor in your pipe.
He, he, while I do like my pipe... hasn't BitComposer done the same for quite a while now? With more than just an entire convention of people by the way.
How about the other attempts of a JA remake before BC? You know, the ones which didn't make it? We saw plenty of real looking pictures from these.
If you have something then put up a demo for download, worked for JA2. If you want to impress for whatever reason, take pretty pictures/vids for press releases and conventions.
MorboThey have a download. That's what the pre-order is for. You basically become a beta tester. Very inventive way of funding an indie game if you ask me.
You are right, maybe times have changed and software developers came up with new ways to get their product to market.
Even though March is a long way from October, and unless they didn't update the progress info on their web site, the beta testers will have to wait even longer after they already put the money on the table.
I feel if they would have asked for donations and provided an open beta, it would have felt more sincere, but I can see that not everyone shares that view and I am cool with that.
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| Re: What is JA2 Reloaded[message #291657]
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Fri, 07 October 2011 15:05
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DieterYou are right, maybe times have changed and software developers came up with new ways to get their product to market.
Even though March is a long way from October, and unless they didn't update the progress info on their web site, the beta testers will have to wait even longer after they already put the money on the table.
I feel if they would have asked for donations and provided an open beta, it would have felt more sincere, but I can see that not everyone shares that view and I am cool with that.
Mount & Blade is a well know, quite successful game that was being sold long before it was finished. Minecraft is doing pretty well, too.
Desura recently made it an option for selected games, calling it "Alphafunding".
So, while not all such projects are successful, the model itself is not a con.
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| Re: What is JA2 Reloaded[message #291676]
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Fri, 07 October 2011 23:15
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There is actually loads of game on the market nowadays which have used and are using this alphafunding way of getting the game out. For an Indie studio it actually costs money for guys to end their day jobs to push the first game out so this is a great way to get the studio going and also get the community to participate in the developing process. A VIP ticket into the back room of development as you could say.
Some games that have used this model and done exceptionally well:
Minecraft
Terraria (I bought it on release)
Mount & Blade (bought before release, the second best modding scene after JA2 probably, best sword and shield battle system ever)
Some games coming out in near future using this system:
Xenonauts (preordered, pre-alpha kicks ass)
Project Zomboid (preordered, pre-alpha kicks ass, easy to mod) <- This is one of my most anticipated so far. 2D Isometric Zombie Survival RPG
Yes, for indie developers its getting more and more usual to fund their games like this and I don't see any problem with it.
http://youtu.be/nc7IVbY3UYg
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| Re: What is JA2 Reloaded[message #294362]
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Thu, 01 December 2011 16:21
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You are right. Soldiers with a fashion sense.
Edit:
I was getting excited because we never really see Muslims as good guys in western games...only bad guys.
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| Re: What is JA2 Reloaded[message #294364]
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Thu, 01 December 2011 16:39
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Gotta stay open minded and think about both sides. Who is the aggressor?
Also, you can not base an opinion on a whole group from a small minority.
Come on bro, you are better than that.
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| Re: What is JA2 Reloaded[message #294365]
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Thu, 01 December 2011 17:05
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taoGotta stay open minded and think about both sides. Who is the aggressor?
Also, you can not base an opinion on a whole group from a small minority.
people from another country/society openly refuses and fights the "resident" rules etc. i see it as aggression, your rules at your home, you deserve no rights here if you don't follow the rules, you weren't forced to come here, if you still persist in it face the consequences (racism and nationalist movements)
i base my opinion on what actually matters in my life, i don't care of the good big group if the small minority endangers me, open mindness towards smothing is not a right, is an offer, abuse it and you're done, nobody smart gives a second chance to be backstabbed
if there is a rotten apple in the basket, is the whole basket bad? no, but you want the rotten apple out of there, possibly before it spoils the rest
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