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Re: Gun's I'd Like to See 15[message #282808] Thu, 09 June 2011 12:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sovereign

 
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I'm willing to make a sprite for the Kord 6P50-1 version:
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100430160053/military/images/4/44/Kord_03.jpg

We already have the ammo type for it, we'll just need to create a 50-round ammo-belt item. Once this is done, it can be added to the game if the powers that be will take it.



How this weapon will fit in my backpack?


How does a Gepard fit there?
Re: Gun's I'd Like to See 15[message #282811] Thu, 09 June 2011 13:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
PasHancock

 
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Well its a game with No Logic

How can Eliot Survive a Shot in Head?

How it is possible to kill a bloodcat with hands?

Why would Queen's soldiers shoot at our Mercs when they see him/her,maybe its a Civilian?Do they have something like,Merc Finding Radar?

How is it possible to survive,when you got hit by Mortar Shell?In RL you could still be alive but your hands/legs would be ripped off!

Anyways,its impossible to put in backpacks such bigs weapons and i think its impossible to shoot from it while you standing/sitting.Prone Only
Re: Gun's I'd Like to See 15[message #282812] Thu, 09 June 2011 13:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well its a game with No Logic


As you say , it's only a game .


Re: Gun's I'd Like to See 15[message #282813] Thu, 09 June 2011 13:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Buns

 
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How can Eliot Survive a Shot in Head?
Nothing in there that could take vital dammages.

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How it is possible to kill a bloodcat with hands?
Ask Crocodile Dundee

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Why would Queen's soldiers shoot at our Mercs when they see him/her,maybe its a Civilian?Do they have something like,Merc Finding Radar?
How do you know they had not seen or heard you?

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How is it possible to survive,when you got hit by Mortar Shell?In RL you could still be alive but your hands/legs would be ripped off!
Only when touching it or stepping on it. You can survive a couple of things that computer games or movies tell you would be instantly lethal (like headshots, BTW).

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Anyways,its impossible to put in backpacks such bigs weapons and i think its impossible to shoot from it while you standing/sitting.Prone Only
You can shoot a couple of heavy weapons while standing - depends on your strenght, and you wouldn't hit a thing. You can also dismantle any weapon and pack the parts into a big rucksack.
Re: Gun's I'd Like to See 15[message #282943] Fri, 10 June 2011 12:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The Kord mg is included in the Night Ops mod. Granted its a heavy beast but theres always guys like him

Kord mg portable

Gorro linked this on page two, with a request for the gun.
Hahahah, that's futile! That guy can barely walk with it. It's impossible shoot anything with it unless it's point blank, even then you could fire couple rounds before recoil messes everything!
Maybe prone with bipod could make it accurate enough for shorter bursts.

DepressivesBrot
I don't know why everyone keeps repeating that 25kg (actually 25.5) figure without checking. The game currently supports item weights between 0 and 6553.5kg (that's more than 6.5 tons).

That said, HMGs are still totally impractical in the game until someone implements proper tripod mounted weapons (needs coding and animations).
Well then, HMGs aren't a problem when it comes to weight. Indeed they require a tripod in order to fire them effectively. I imagine coding and animation would be the hardest part.

Offtopic:
Heheh, you could do some serious strength training with your merc then. Load a backpack with HMGs, one to hand + strap slot and off you go with over 250kg load... Wonder if he makes to the next sector?
Re: Gun's I'd Like to See 15[message #282960] Fri, 10 June 2011 13:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sovereign

 
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Hahahah, that's futile! That guy can barely walk with it. It's impossible shoot anything with it unless it's point blank, even then you could fire couple rounds before recoil messes everything!
Maybe prone with bipod could make it accurate enough for shorter bursts.


The portable variant's bipod is actually a pretty clever recoil absorbing device. Thankfully with the NCTH came a way to make certain weapons non-viable to shoot while standing or kneeling, so making this thing usable only while prone should be easy enough.
Re: Gun's I'd Like to See 15[message #282983] Fri, 10 June 2011 16:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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How it is possible to kill a bloodcat with hands?

Knock'm down.
Even those cats have brains & jaws.

Btw, i like that gun.

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Re: Gun's I'd Like to See 15[message #283705] Fri, 17 June 2011 13:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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This (again):
vXLRYf9EV2Y[/video]
Re: Gun's I'd Like to See 15[message #283715] Fri, 17 June 2011 14:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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NTW 20

APs to ready: 80 Wink

Pretty sure that thing (12,7, probably) is in at least one XML mod.

Re: Gun's I'd Like to See 15[message #283719] Fri, 17 June 2011 15:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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NTW 20

APs to ready: 80 Wink

Pretty sure that thing (12,7, probably) is in at least one XML mod.
Actually, 20mm with a conversion kit for 14.5mm. Only the IoV family would be crazy enough to have it. There's nothing in game that's both worth shooting at and can be damaged by this abomination. .50 is already pushing it.


Re: Gun's I'd Like to See 15[message #283721] Fri, 17 June 2011 15:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I really could use a cannon that can shoot through sandbags and kevlar grass. Also, I'd shoot Pablo with it.

There is a 'training' conversion kit in .50 as well.
Re: Gun's I'd Like to See 15[message #286228] Mon, 11 July 2011 13:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
27z

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Hmm. Doing some weapon research, I just found a very funky gun. The Mateba Unica 6 (aka the Mateba Auto-Revolver) is a recoil-operated revolver, making it one of the strangest guns ever. Aside of that, it also fires from the bottom cylinder position. It has a version in .454 Casull with an 8" barrel which is considered to be a joy to shoot (for such a powerful round). I might sprite this one, because it is just way too cool, and we already have .454 Casull in the game.

Here is a pair of them (These are .44s, the left one is the long barrel version):
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y14/natew73/DSC06126.jpg


I really like these ones!
Here the italian wiki (if you known italian lang) with useful info:
http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mateba_Autorevolver

An other (and new) italian weapon:

Tanfoglio Appeal
http://www.armimunizioni.it/uploadfile/news/appeal.jpg
http://www.tanfoglio.it/news/appeal.html
http://www.armimunizioni.it/news_eventi/dettaglio/Appeal-la-carabina-di-Tanfoglio
Semiauto carabine
Bullpup & Picatinny rail for optics
Cal. 22L.R, .22 Win, . 17 Match . 17HMR e .17H&R
Magazine capacity: 10 (5 for Italy)
Lenght 670mm (barrel 460mm)
Weight 2170g.

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Re: Gun's I'd Like to See 15[message #286473] Wed, 13 July 2011 23:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Some1
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Actually, 20mm with a conversion kit for 14.5mm. Only the IoV family would be crazy enough to have it. There's nothing in game that's both worth shooting at and can be damaged by this abomination. .50 is already pushing it.
You could now one-shot the bug queen Very Happy
Re: Gun's I'd Like to See 15[message #287329] Sat, 23 July 2011 01:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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http://androidarts.com/kawaiik/kawaiik_weapons_2.jpg
Re: Gun's I'd Like to See 15[message #287380] Sat, 23 July 2011 13:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/6083/20245446.th.jpg

http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/8495/60406081.th.jpg

http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/7691/56452982.th.jpg

detrajev dt-tanovyj[for tanks] this gun is devopment from dp-28 gun,it is used in tanks[t-34 or something similar] can be used by troops,you can see bipod & folding stock on gun,ammo capacity 60 rounds/caliber 7.62x54R
Re: Gun's I'd Like to See 15[message #287381] Sat, 23 July 2011 14:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ksc133

 
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dear folks

can i request for this KPV-14.5 heavy machine gun?
http://world.guns.ru/machine/rus/kpv-e.html?

i like to mount it on the robot for massive fire power!!!
lolx

thanks

Re: Gun's I'd Like to See 15[message #287385] Sat, 23 July 2011 15:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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dear folks

can i request for this KPV-14.5 heavy machine gun?
http://world.guns.ru/machine/rus/kpv-e.html?

i like to mount it on the robot for massive fire power!!!
lolx

thanks


you may request whatever you want - but you (most likely) won't get it
Re: Gun's I'd Like to See 15[message #287387] Sat, 23 July 2011 16:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DepressivesBrot

 
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Well, he has bigger chances than howie Very Happy
But seriously, I think the stability of that robot as a firing platform is vastly overestimated. They are usually used with the standard issue SAW, GPMG or a .50 AMR, haven't seen one in this weight class with .50MG or bigger.

Maybe if we ever get tripods implemented, there will be a place for those big guns.


Re: Gun's I'd Like to See 15[message #287425] Sat, 23 July 2011 21:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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sorry but i love big guns ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mauser_BK-27

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DEFA_cannon

Re: Gun's I'd Like to See 15[message #287426] Sat, 23 July 2011 21:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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yep we need it - it has to be dual-wield of course

:gaga:
Re: Gun's I'd Like to See 15[message #287427] Sat, 23 July 2011 21:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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weapons for robot platform...
Re: Gun's I'd Like to See 15[message #287428] Sat, 23 July 2011 21:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DepressivesBrot

 
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It's a tactical UGV with <= 1m length, not a Ripsaw or something.


Re: Gun's I'd Like to See 15[message #287429] Sat, 23 July 2011 21:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
wolf00

 
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ok not fit in robot platform ... http://world.guns.ru/machine/rus/dshk-dshkm-e.html weaker than kord but i think is is still usable for robot
Re: Gun's I'd Like to See 15[message #287431] Sat, 23 July 2011 21:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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ok not fit in robot platform ... http://world.guns.ru/machine/rus/dshk-dshkm-e.html weaker than kord but i think is is still usable for robot


if we upgrade the robot, we need to do it right

http://www.krisenkommandokraefte.de/intern/fahrzeuge/pzh2000-04.jpg
Re: Gun's I'd Like to See 15[message #287453] Sat, 23 July 2011 23:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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What about a bow or crossbow for silence kills?

Also I would love to see some AR-15 style caliber .458 SOCOM rifles ...
Re: Gun's I'd Like to See 15[message #287454] Sat, 23 July 2011 23:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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There's a crossbow in AIMNAS.


Re: Gun's I'd Like to See 15[message #287455] Sat, 23 July 2011 23:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Gun's I'd Like to See 15[message #287510] Sun, 24 July 2011 18:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tobias

 
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Yes something like that! Let's name it Rock River Arms LAR-458 Custom. Smile

My preferences:

with A2 buttstock (old style)
with battle scope
color OD green or woodland cammo

Thanks! Wink
Re: Gun's I'd Like to See 15[message #287511] Sun, 24 July 2011 18:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Slax

 
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458 SOCOM AR15

Now there's something Mike would do wonders with. Wink

EDIT: http://www.armsvault.com/
Tons of links to tons of guns.

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Re: Gun's I'd Like to See 15[message #287545] Mon, 25 July 2011 11:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
PasHancock

 
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is there a list of weapons that are in 1.13?
Re: Gun's I'd Like to See 15[message #287547] Mon, 25 July 2011 11:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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yeo it's called the xml-editor just drag items xml into ms ecxel fromm '2003' onwards (anything that can save to *.xlsx-files) - don't know whether it will show the pix, though

edith: tested it no pix


just download items.xls

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Re: Gun's I'd Like to See 15[message #287548] Mon, 25 July 2011 11:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
PasHancock

 
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oh,found it.Thanks
Re: Gun's I'd Like to See 15[message #287549] Mon, 25 July 2011 11:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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just tried to get it with pix into excel - unfortunately there is no way to select 'all' in the editor -> doesn't work
Re: Gun's I'd Like to See 15[message #287600] Mon, 25 July 2011 21:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tobias

 
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Hi folks,

I found a JA2 fanpage from Poland with nice gun pics, facing to the right, the other side than it is now in JA2, but looks very nice ... could someone put the pics in the games?

Please! I love them, all of them!

http://userbar.jagged-alliance.pl/index.php?gra=dbb&typ=6
Re: Gun's I'd Like to See 15[message #287618] Mon, 25 July 2011 23:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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As said in the PM, those are /our/ gun pics, at least where 1.13-guns are concerned.

That they are pointing to the right also means that they are totally wrong (depicting the /left/ side of the gun (while it points to the right) means they are from a mirror universe...).


Re: Gun's I'd Like to See 15[message #287916] Fri, 29 July 2011 17:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HS2000

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RT-20_%28rifle%29

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VHS_assault_rifle


Take a look...
Re: Gun's I'd Like to See 15[message #287917] Fri, 29 July 2011 18:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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the Springfield Armory XD is the marketing name for the weapon, which is licensed and sold in the US by Springfield Armory, Inc.
Ingame as 'Springfield XD', index 722.

VHS ... looks like a FAMAS and is another 5.56 AR.


Btw, our armorer resigned his post, looks bad for new guns in the near future.


Re: Gun's I'd Like to See 15[message #287920] Fri, 29 July 2011 18:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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http://world.guns.ru/sniper/large-caliber-sniper-rifles/hr/rt-20-e.html
Re: Gun's I'd Like to See 15[message #287931] Fri, 29 July 2011 19:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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man portable canon? so why? there is no target in game for this beast,against tank is useless ...
Re: Gun's I'd Like to See 15[message #288144] Tue, 02 August 2011 12:25 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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so why not bring something fresh for old guns ? http://www.gunsinternational.com/Springfield-M1-Garand-308-Win.cfm?gun_id=100189639

now in theory line: it is posible make for garand conv calibre kit's?
for excample: .300 wm, .338 lapaua magnum, .458[this one is in iov], now pistol caliber's like .50 ae , .50 beo or .45 winchester magnum ? yes this is imposible until nms is done ...
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