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Re: Gun's I'd Like to See 15[message #309739] Sun, 02 September 2012 00:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DepressivesBrot

 
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Fun fact: There is a complete set of pictures for the M41A in the sti already, just no item.
And if someone adds it, I insist on the real pulse rifle - a Thompson with a Masterkey in a bulky plastic shell.


Re: Gun's I'd Like to See 15[message #309741] Sun, 02 September 2012 03:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Serenity
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For simplicity it could use the standard 10mm ammo and 25mm or 40mm grenades

Despite the dialogue, it isn't caseless anyways. You can see cases ejecting in a couple of scenes.

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Re: Gun's I'd Like to See 15[message #309742] Sun, 02 September 2012 04:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Slax

 
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99 rounds of 10mm LAPET (Light Armor Piercing Explosive Tipped) does seem to be a bit over the top. Very Happy

Re: Gun's I'd Like to See 15[message #309745] Sun, 02 September 2012 19:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Wil473

 
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AFS/UC-1.13/DL-1.13 all have the M41A, as it was an original DL weapon (though DL-1.13 has not seen an upgrade in quite some time). I even have one sitting in the Drake University sector's comic book store as an in-joke. Stock v1.13 graphic for the M41A, new graphics for the 30mm rounds.

DepressivesBrot
Fun fact: There is a complete set of pictures for the M41A in the sti already, just no item.
And if someone adds it, I insist on the real pulse rifle - a Thompson with a Masterkey in a bulky plastic shell.

Now that I've got 100 more weapon item slots available this can be done. It wouldn't even be the first functional weapon prop in my projects. BulletSix's "Carter Special" holds that title.

Need more merchant XML/"canned NPC behaviour" in-game...

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Re: Gun's I'd Like to See 15[message #311061] Tue, 09 October 2012 21:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
wolf00

 
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please it is a posible add in svn 7.62x39 glasser ? http://www.shopcorbon.com/Glaser-Safety-Slug/762x39-130gr-Glaser/05600/500/Product

second link ca be interisting too,there is few guns caliber in .30-06 http://www.shopcorbon.com/Glaser-Safety-Slug/30-06-Sprg-130gr-Glaser/06000/500/Product
Re: Gun's I'd Like to See 15[message #313139] Sun, 16 December 2012 11:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
sumfugoula22

 
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I would suggest the Lithuanian G36KA4, i dont really quite know the specifications for the gun but i do know that they are 5.56 cal guns


and i dont know how to add pics so you guys should go search the internet for it

i have some links:http://pilypas.lt/g-36-seimoje-lietuviska-versija-g-36ka4/
http://gunrunnerhell.tumblr.com/post/18292329400
http://www.hkpro.com/forum/hk-nfa-talk/138998-g36kv-build-standards.html
Re: Gun's I'd Like to See 15[message #313140] Sun, 16 December 2012 11:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DepressivesBrot

 
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Seems identical to the G36K RAS we have in the game.


Re: Gun's I'd Like to See 15[message #313143] Sun, 16 December 2012 13:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
lockie

 
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Seems identical to the G36K RAS we have in the game.



NO you FOOL , it's a LITHUANIAN version !!!







:wrysmiley:


Re: Gun's I'd Like to See 15[message #313150] Sun, 16 December 2012 15:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
sumfugoula22

 
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well its almost the same as RAS ,but the G36KA4 has a picatinyy rail instead of G36 optics and a metal mount in front

its basicly a diffrent version of the Norwegian G-36KA2
Re: Gun's I'd Like to See 15[message #313151] Sun, 16 December 2012 15:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DepressivesBrot

 
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That pretty much is our RAS. It's got the low profile toprail of the Compact instead of the HKV or export scope. Just look it up on Bobby Ray's Smile


Re: Gun's I'd Like to See 15[message #313152] Sun, 16 December 2012 15:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
sumfugoula22

 
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crap, i forgot to add more info on the gun

the gun is pretty acurate from 0 to 400 in the base version (no bipod or optics)

and if you add the bipod,some good optics and "match" ammo the range is increased to 500


all the sights are integrated to the Picatinny rail on top so you can add optic,holographic or any other

the plastic mount in front of the gun has been replaced bt a light metal one that also has a picatiny rail on it
Re: Gun's I'd Like to See 15[message #313153] Sun, 16 December 2012 15:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DepressivesBrot

 
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And? You could give the same performance specs for a normal '36. You could argue for a name change now that an armed force has standardized the setup, but there's really no point in adding an identical gun.


Re: Gun's I'd Like to See 15[message #313157] Sun, 16 December 2012 15:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
K0ukku

 
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As the CovertOps trait gives the player a chance to infiltrate past the enemy lines, some kind of weapons with disassembling/assembling could be useful. The enemies will stop the player if the CovertOps/Spy merc has too much weapons and/or too good weapons. A sniper rifle taken into parts could resolve the issues for the infiltration units. For example, players wants to get a nice sniping position from somewhere before the attack, goes past the enemy lines unnoticed (weapon disassembled) goes to the roof, assembles the rifle and ready to give clandestine fire support if needed for the main assault force. I believe the Vintores VSS is really easily transported in a compact suit case.

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Re: Gun's I'd Like to See 15[message #313160] Sun, 16 December 2012 15:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
sumfugoula22

 
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well i checked bobby rays and i dont know if the specs apply ingame but as i said before the KA4 has better range,the regular max range is 365 while the KA4 is 400 but as you said it is mostly the same as RAS, but KA4 has more range

anyway as i said before its the same as the norwegian G36KA2 but only being diffrence that g36 optics were remowed and the rifle butt was changed

the diffrence beetween the regular 36 is that its Very rielable because most of the plastic was replaced by metal alloys

also KA4 has the ability to launch rifle grenades and its lighter than the regular g36k
Re: Gun's I'd Like to See 15[message #313162] Sun, 16 December 2012 16:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DepressivesBrot

 
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365 and 400 are in the same ballpark, you can't just compare the approximate real range of a gun with the balanced/adjusted ingame range and say it's better.
The RAS forearm in game looks a lot like the KAC model, which is aluminum as well. And the normal G36 can launch rifle grenades, there's even an instruction video somewhere. Oh, and the RAS is lighter.

Just fire up the XMLEditor and rename it.

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Re: Gun's I'd Like to See 15[message #313166] Sun, 16 December 2012 16:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
sumfugoula22

 
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wait are you comparing the G36KA4 to the regular G36 ?

im coparing it to the G36K, because the actual name of the gun is G36K A4

its barrel is 5 cm longer than the regular G36K and it has picatiny rail instead of optics also the the front of the gun is light metal instead of plastic so it is more riealible than the G36K and you can actualy mount 4 things in the front
Re: Gun's I'd Like to See 15[message #313167] Sun, 16 December 2012 17:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DepressivesBrot

 
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No, I mean the G36K/G36K RAS - I just tend to drop a letter now and then out of laziness.
And why do you repeat the part about the optics rail and the metal forearm again and again? I've explained that 3 times already.


Re: Gun's I'd Like to See 15[message #313170] Sun, 16 December 2012 17:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
sumfugoula22

 
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ah damn it if i knew how to add pics to these i would show you the diffrence of looks so ive got some links

http://www.bbdragon.com.tw/popup_image.php/pID/2341/imgID/0 - the G36 RAS


http://www.airsoftgun.lt/invision/index.php?showtopic=5376 - The G36K A4 and some other g36 weps
Re: Gun's I'd Like to See 15[message #313174] Sun, 16 December 2012 17:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
lockie

 
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Honestly , if you are fixated on the idea of one special variant of a commonplace gun , do as DP says , rename the one ingame !

Remember boys and girls , it's a soddin' GAME ! :angry:


Re: Gun's I'd Like to See 15[message #313175] Sun, 16 December 2012 17:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
sumfugoula22

 
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...i dont know how...help ?
Re: Gun's I'd Like to See 15[message #313179] Sun, 16 December 2012 17:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
lockie

 
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Just fire up the XMLEditor and rename it.


Re: Gun's I'd Like to See 15[message #313181] Sun, 16 December 2012 17:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DepressivesBrot

 
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Ah, I see now.
https://nvheea.dm1.livefilestore.com/y1pHAbft7BLc9XP8dUlWBHl1zQ0u3MoCJnXbPVZDyT3qxriv9zgaYKe4tZVrAu-KtbFkQJyDEVTFGMXx6fmuUdfW7qdRC3iq82I/BobbyRay_G36.png
The G36K RAS in game is definitely not the sh... airsoft replica you posted, the forearm might be artistic license - ask a modder, those rails are damn hard to draw - but bears some resemblance to this (alumnum!) model: (ignore the carry handle, they can easily be exchanged for the top rail)
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/obrazek_big_28_thumb-tm-tfb1.jpeg
While your KA4 apparently uses the B&T Tactical Handguard. Really, at the limited pic size there isn't much difference either way.
http://www.rksplus.com/WebRoot/comalis/Shops/lno1J350m/4DFD/2454/F551/CA87/0F55/7F00/0001/5920/BT_G36K_m.jpg
http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/2727/g36ka4.jpg
As for how to fix it yourself:
There's a program called 'XMLEditor' in your JA2 folder. Open it, go to Items>Guns and search the G36K RAS, double click that row and change details as you wish. Name should be first tab and range somewhere to the right.

@Lockie:
Is that intentional btw? I've noticed that you consistently write 'DP'

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Re: Gun's I'd Like to See 15[message #313186] Sun, 16 December 2012 18:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
lockie

 
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Umm , meant DB..... Embarrassed


Re: Gun's I'd Like to See 15[message #313188] Sun, 16 December 2012 18:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sam Hotte

 
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A Freudian slip? Wink
Re: Gun's I'd Like to See 15[message #313444] Sat, 22 December 2012 20:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Parkan

 
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Hello everyone.Sorry if my post not related to the topic.But i want ask very long time ago.

The stock 1.13 mod have a very little choose in LBE gear and a original old maps.So my question is:Are there any planing to add more LBE stuff to original stock mod and change all old standart maps for example on Wildfire maps.?

Well it really want to play original campaigh without any additional mods like AFS or AIMNAS,but when i try to play i see there is a very little choose in LBE\armor\addtional items stuff.And those old maps...they so booring.So,playing original mod without aditional stuff\maps realy booring.

I don't say about weapons.There is a really lot of weapons in stock mod,but other stuff-really little to choose.

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Re: Gun's I'd Like to See 15[message #313449] Sat, 22 December 2012 21:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sam Hotte

 
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Well, posting in the "i want gun X"-thread, you did know, that is off topic for sure ... Wink

There is a mappack with wildfire maps that you can use with stock 1.13. Have a look at the archive at kermi's.

Adding more items and LBE stuff is supoosed to be the duty of mod(der)s. Hence in order to have a different set of items you will need an item mod like e.g. IoV as well.
Re: Gun's I'd Like to See 15[message #313450] Sat, 22 December 2012 21:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Parkan

 
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Well i know about Wildfire maps,but if look more deep.All new features maded by moders first time will come in test in stock mod.As for me i really want to test new features in game and not waiting for adaptation for other mods Like AFS,UC,AIMNAS.I think it will be much better to test with more stuff(LBE gear,armors,attachments,other stuff).So maybe made Wildfire map a part of stock mod,and add more intresting stuff like i mention before(in time to time)

Sorry for my not realated post,i just don't want to make a topic about that(i hoped this topic visiting much more often than other topics)

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Re: Gun's I'd Like to See 15[message #313949] Sun, 06 January 2013 07:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kaerar

 
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When I made the images for the G36K RAS it was when there was no actual RAS systems released by H&K. Hence they look as they do. To remake them in the actual look wouldn't be that hard, but at the same time wouldn't serve a lot of purpose either. I'd just rename the ones ingame if it's that important, but really there are so many G36 variants out there now it's like the AK of the 2000's...


Re: Gun's I'd Like to See 15[message #314002] Tue, 08 January 2013 12:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
wolf00

 
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if you want another g36 variant,why not you looking for some g36 clones ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FX-05_Xiuhcoatl
Re: Gun's I'd Like to See 15[message #314943] Wed, 30 January 2013 16:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
veedotja2

 
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I see a lot of requests for a lot of rare oddball guns.
When I go to a throwback rural dictatorship I expect to see a collection of old revolvers and pump and lever action guns. At least initially. Eventually the better troops will have assault rifles and finally the exotic stuff.

Where is the Winchester .30-30?

I put a request over in AIMNAS thread but wooden stocked lever action rifles are a perfect fit for Arulco's early troops and civilians for regular 1.13.

This is a no brainer. There is already a Winchester Trapper in .44 but .44 isn't the right caliber for this gun, you really want .30-30 which has the power of 7.62x39mm but shorter range because you can't load pointy bullets in a tube magazine. .30-30 is the popular caliber for this weapon.

Every gun that fires .30-30 is a lever action that I am aware of, and Mossberg makes one in synthetic with rails on it. The 464.

I can't get images to display inline. Sad

I would like to do this. Seems like this worked in the past.

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Re: Gun's I'd Like to See 15[message #314945] Wed, 30 January 2013 17:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DepressivesBrot

 
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I've seen your links, crop that formatting stuff at the end so the url ends with a proper file extension.
[img]http://psychologicalselfdefense.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/model-94-carbine.jpg[/img]
[img]http://psychologicalselfdefense.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/mossberg-464.png[/img]

http://psychologicalselfdefense.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/model-94-carbine.jpg
http://psychologicalselfdefense.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/mossberg-464.png


Re: Gun's I'd Like to See 15[message #314948] Wed, 30 January 2013 18:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
veedotja2

 
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DepressivesBrot
[Some sweet technical help snipped]


Thank, I PMed you too.

Opinions about the gun, however?

It is a common real world gun, placed perfectly in a South American (?) nation and is a nice change of pace. It hits as hard as an AK at a slightly shorter range. It has been around for over a hundred years and it's something you would really find in a rural farming area, unlike much of the exotic stuff and I'm not even talking about the Sci-Fi guns.

I'm not saying it is a good choice as a main battle rifle, but that isn't the point of many guns in JA2. I sometimes build concept characters and try to make do with less than optimal, but realistic, equipment for as long as possible. I've beat the game with revolvers and pump shotguns (OK, and mortars) and it was a blast.

The hunter trait should benefit users of this gun as well by making it faster to chamber a round, same as it does with pump shotguns.

I know it isn't easy to add a caliber, but I can dream.

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Re: Gun's I'd Like to See 15[message #314949] Wed, 30 January 2013 18:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DepressivesBrot

 
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I don't care too much what gets into the main branch, I couldn't do without AIM anyway Razz
That said, the rifle looks nice, the tacticool version is an atrocious eyesore however.


Re: Gun's I'd Like to See 15[message #315437] Fri, 15 February 2013 00:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
veedotja2

 
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DepressivesBrot
I don't care too much what gets into the main branch, I couldn't do without AIM anyway Razz
That said, the rifle looks nice, the tacticool version is an atrocious eyesore however.


I love AIMNAS and I love big maps. AIMNAS was all I played after I finished UC because AIMNAS was pretty much just an item mod back then (like an amped up 1.13). But now I play 1.13 main *and* AIMNAS alternately because big maps makes it essentially a different tactical game and the battles are longer so I need to really have some time to kill. Therefore, since I play both both main *and* AIMNAS they both should have all the guns I like, just my opinion.

People posting in here really ought to look hard at playing AIMNAS because it is so gun heavy with lots of variants, though it isn't completely ready yet in the latest version the early sectors are fine to battle in. Do Ctrl-GABBI and spawn lots of enemies. With the huge gun selection of AIMNAS and big maps it's a lot of fun.

Rails are ugly all the time but form should follow function, and the advantages of a rail cannot be denied.
Re: Gun's I'd Like to See 15[message #315443] Fri, 15 February 2013 02:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
graywolf364

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How about the Adcor Defense B.E.A.R. Elite? It's a piston driven (Adcor claims to have solved the problem of carrier tilt) AR15 with a free-floating barrel and a nifty forward reversible charging handle in addition to the stranded rear charging handle. To my great surprise it made it to Phase 2 in the Army's Individual Carbine competition.

http://www.adcorindustries.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/product-image-bear-elite-main3.jpg

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Re: Gun's I'd Like to See 15[message #317109] Sat, 06 April 2013 12:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
wolf00

 
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GShG-7.62_machine_gun,there is no need for external power source,gun is gas operated by itself,fit nicely in ja2 weight limit[suitable only for strong merc]... + it is goold old hard hitting caliber
Re: Gun's I'd Like to See 15[message #324497] Fri, 30 August 2013 15:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Katagelan

 
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The good old famas and its new variants accept now a lot more accessories than is the case in the game.
Re: Gun's I'd Like to See 15[message #324846] Sat, 07 September 2013 13:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
wolf00

 
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http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/3-0311220

.357 magnum solid hollow point

http://www.lafayetteshooters.com/Barnes-XPB-Handgun-Bullets-357-Magnum-357-Diameter-140-Grain-Solid-Copper-Hollow-Point-Box-of-20-35714/PAOHADOEDMAENIHB/Product same thing but from another company

http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/7-ACOP44M225 same kind of ammo for .44 magnum

same ammo for .454 casull http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/15510

Re: Gun's I'd Like to See 15[message #324913] Mon, 09 September 2013 01:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kriplo

 
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When v1.13 will get Ruger Mini-30 from wildfire, really miss this one :help:
Re: Gun's I'd Like to See 15[message #324919] Mon, 09 September 2013 10:15 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
dzidek1983

 
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yeah 40 dmg and 30 range on a rifle with 7.62 ammo... i miss that one too
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