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Recruiting Dynamo[message #280455] Sun, 22 May 2011 16:59 Go to next message
vulgarmonkey is currently offline vulgarmonkey

 
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Right, first off, I don't see a search function for this forum, so apologies if this question comes up a lot.
Second, I'm running 1.13 with HAM (most recent all-in-one install), but haven't posted in that subforum since I don't think it affects this.


anyway, I've just cleaned out tixa in a protracted battle where I must've been outnumbered 5 to 1, and have come across shank and dynamo. I came here specifically to free dynamo so that alma's mine foreman would up his financial aid.

Now that I've found him, I can't recruit him! He just keeps repeating 'just leave me alone!' in some vaguely traumatised tone of voice.

I understand he's meant to rattle through some backstory first, but I've yet to get that. Tried all the dialogue options.

Shank is similarly stubborn.


I've heard theories that leadership skill matters....best I've got on site is Reaper with 40 points. I also have raider higgins with his 90 points, but he's miles away bolstering defenses around the drassen sam site, and even then I've heard people trying and failing with him also.

Any ideas?

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Re: Recruiting Dynamo[message #280456] Sun, 22 May 2011 17:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
cdudau
Did you talk to Matt the head miner first?

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Re: Recruiting Dynamo[message #280457] Sun, 22 May 2011 17:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
vulgarmonkey is currently offline vulgarmonkey

 
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Already spoken to him yeah, and had it added to my history log.
In fact, this is my first playthrough, so I'd have had no idea if he hadn't told me.

also, I just loaded up my savegame to experimentally cart raider over to the prison. Took long enough. But no, he doesn't work either.

I also then ran the clock forward by another 12 hours to see if he needed time to....calm down. No effect.

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Re: Recruiting Dynamo[message #280459] Sun, 22 May 2011 19:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
cdudau
how is your liberated town loyalty?

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Re: Recruiting Dynamo[message #280483] Sun, 22 May 2011 23:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Blue_Fox is currently offline Blue_Fox

 
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Not need to talk to Matt first.
Dynamo will mentioned him in his speech.
Matt gladly wanna see me, or something like that.

Let him talk about his situation and about his son.
If not talk about that he aint willing to join you.

And ... refuse his offer for 50 Bucks.

Oh, what the hell.
Just feed me ones in a while Very Happy


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Re: Recruiting Dynamo[message #280486] Mon, 23 May 2011 01:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
vulgarmonkey is currently offline vulgarmonkey

 
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Alma's at 56%.

[Updated on: Mon, 23 May 2011 01:35] by Moderator

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Re: Recruiting Dynamo[message #288207] Wed, 03 August 2011 05:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
vulgarmonkey is currently offline vulgarmonkey

 
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Hi, just for the record I'm now running the most recent release (plus the hotfix) of 113 and this is still doing the same thing.

This time round I've fielded a cutom team of imps, and my boss (Hannibal) is specifically kitted out as a leader. Maxed out in leadership (87) and wisdom, given him the squadleader and teacher traits.....I have at least managed to hire shank this time, maybe this is why.

However, no joy with dynamo. I have tried reloading a save made just before talking to him in case there is an element of randomness. No luck. Unless any randomness that may be there is not calculated before talking to him, but when you initially enter the dungeon map.

What do we know about the triggers that are meant to fire. Are any of them time related?
I spent a couple of days training a garrison to protect alma, but after that headed out immediately. My campaign is 14 days in.

Failing all else, is there some kind of hack to set the triggers? I feel a bit hard done by, and by the sounds of it I suspect this is as much a bug as deliberate scripting.

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Re: Recruiting Dynamo[message #288208] Wed, 03 August 2011 08:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Lepidosteus is currently offline Lepidosteus

 
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I was unable to recruit him as well in my last game, with a 90+ ldr merc.

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Re: Recruiting Dynamo[message #288211] Wed, 03 August 2011 10:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gorro der Grüne is currently offline Gorro der Grüne

 
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how about giving first aid and THAN recruit him?

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Re: Recruiting Dynamo[message #288217] Wed, 03 August 2011 12:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
PasHancock is currently offline PasHancock

 
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thats not possible,he is not wounded.


Also,i sometimes noticed that some RPC's dont want to join my squad if there is only 1 merc near that RPC,i had the same problem with dynamo,my Main IMP talked to him,no luck,then i putted 3 IMP's near Dynamo and he Joined my squad!

Try my method!

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Re: Recruiting Dynamo[message #288219] Wed, 03 August 2011 14:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gorro der Grüne is currently offline Gorro der Grüne

 
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Since when?

He even says he needs medical treatment.

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Re: Recruiting Dynamo[message #288222] Wed, 03 August 2011 15:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
PasHancock is currently offline PasHancock

 
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Its After you will recruit him.You cant heal him until you will recruit him,i tried

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Re: Recruiting Dynamo[message #288226] Wed, 03 August 2011 16:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Marlboro Man

 
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Did you liberate the town his brother Matt lives in ?

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Re: Recruiting Dynamo[message #288228] Wed, 03 August 2011 16:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gorro der Grüne is currently offline Gorro der Grüne

 
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there is no "need" loya nowhere
You don't need to have the quest or liberate Alma, or speak to Matt

You need a "friendly" char with high leadership (80 is enough - I all ways use an friendly IMPress with 80+)

sometimey You must free him first or dress his wounds before

As long as nobody changed anything that will do it or it is a bug.

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Re: Recruiting Dynamo[message #288229] Wed, 03 August 2011 16:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
cdudau
Bullshit

The player Has to talk to Matt first.

Go ahead test it.

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Re: Recruiting Dynamo[message #288230] Wed, 03 August 2011 16:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
PasHancock is currently offline PasHancock

 
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how about,free from Prison Shank,hire him and let Shank speak with Dynamo

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Re: Recruiting Dynamo[message #288231] Wed, 03 August 2011 16:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Lepidosteus is currently offline Lepidosteus

 
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taoteching
Bullshit

The player Has to talk to Matt first.

Go ahead test it.


Incorrect. I've hired him multiple times before without taking any cities at all.

PasHancock
how about,free from Prison Shank,hire him and let Shank speak with Dynamo


I tried that as well in my latest playthrough. No luck Sad

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Re: Recruiting Dynamo[message #288232] Wed, 03 August 2011 16:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
cdudau
Bullshit.

In
Jagged Alliance 2 1.12
The player has to talk to Matt before hiring Dynamo.

I do not know if this is dependent on difficulty though.

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Re: Recruiting Dynamo[message #288233] Wed, 03 August 2011 17:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
PasHancock is currently offline PasHancock

 
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I had Dynamo Before even entering Alma

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Re: Recruiting Dynamo[message #288234] Wed, 03 August 2011 17:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Lepidosteus is currently offline Lepidosteus

 
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Just made two quick ctrl-gabbi test games, hiring an imp and Raider.

In these games, I could hire Dynamo without having spoken to Matt first, and also after having spoken to Matt. It seems that he goes bonkers in some games and not in others.

I seem to recall some years-old topics about his script being very buggy.

PasHancock
I had Dynamo Before even entering Alma


Me too, several times. I usually play "living off the land" without taking any cities in my games, and getting Dynamo + Shank early (and Dimitri Razz) is pretty crucial to that.

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Re: Recruiting Dynamo[message #288236] Wed, 03 August 2011 17:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gorro der Grüne is currently offline Gorro der Grüne

 
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T.T. King
Bullshit.


In this topic there is only one user bullshitting around

and this user s(h)its in the known universe


It was NEVEREVER necessary to have been in Alma or have spoken to Matt.

The only weird things were

-sometimes You have to break the celllock before hiring him
-sometimes You have to bandage him first
-sometimes (very very rare) he has a stroll on the map

and this was the case from 1.0 to Gold (including retailWF)

He always went along with a friendly 80+loya person

Btw I usualy adress Matt with him after liberating Alma
- a personal joke and a silly giggle on my site when Matt tells Dynamo to free Dynamo in Tixa
- and the easiest way to get more than 1 Commandosilencer in retailWF







Edith, Judith, Gwyneth and Lillith in chorus: "Gorro got a laughing fit when reading it could be difficultyrelated. There is nothing difficultyrelated with quests in JA2"


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Re: Recruiting Dynamo[message #288243] Wed, 03 August 2011 17:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
cdudau
In my last game.

He would not join regardless of who talked to him.

I took a little sidetrack to his bro's residence and voila he joined.

Explain that one then.



Also,

It is not King.

Pronounced: Dao duh jing

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Re: Recruiting Dynamo[message #288244] Wed, 03 August 2011 18:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
PasHancock is currently offline PasHancock

 
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well maybe you pushed on him first time,maybe you talked with him Directly or Threatened him

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Re: Recruiting Dynamo[message #288245] Wed, 03 August 2011 18:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gorro der Grüne is currently offline Gorro der Grüne

 
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Tao when I write T.T. King it has a meaning - something like don't know nothing and be proud of it


:scan: :nerd: :headbanger: :uhh:

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Re: Recruiting Dynamo[message #288246] Wed, 03 August 2011 18:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gorro der Grüne is currently offline Gorro der Grüne

 
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and oc You have to listen to his entire story (he is as desperate as psycho)

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Re: Recruiting Dynamo[message #288254] Wed, 03 August 2011 19:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
vulgarmonkey is currently offline vulgarmonkey

 
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I dont get any kind of story, just 'leave me alone' on an endless loop, regardless of which line of questioning I take.

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Re: Recruiting Dynamo[message #288258] Wed, 03 August 2011 19:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
cdudau
vulgarmonkey
I dont get any kind of story, just 'leave me alone' on an endless loop, regardless of which line of questioning I take.


That is when you go talk to Matt and come back.

This is what Gorro "Derrr" Goon fails to realize.

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Re: Recruiting Dynamo[message #288262] Wed, 03 August 2011 19:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gorro der Grüne is currently offline Gorro der Grüne

 
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The leave me alone line comes when he is NOT bandaged You goddarn n**bs.

In retailWF it also appeArs if You didn't kill all members of all enemyfactions in the sector.

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Re: Recruiting Dynamo[message #288263] Wed, 03 August 2011 19:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
PasHancock is currently offline PasHancock

 
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It is not possible to bandage him until you recruit him,have you tried bandaging him before recruiting?

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Re: Recruiting Dynamo[message #288265] Wed, 03 August 2011 19:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gorro der Grüne is currently offline Gorro der Grüne

 
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It was always possible If it is not possible than somebody fucked it up and it must be defucked.

I wrote something like unless changed and bug, didn't I?

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Re: Recruiting Dynamo[message #288266] Wed, 03 August 2011 19:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
cdudau
NO Dude.

This was in Vanilla.

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Re: Recruiting Dynamo[message #288268] Wed, 03 August 2011 20:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
derek is currently offline derek

 
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Ha, ha to Gorro!

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Re: Recruiting Dynamo[message #288269] Wed, 03 August 2011 20:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
derek is currently offline derek

 
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To Pasha - great yob with anims!

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Re: Recruiting Dynamo[message #288270] Wed, 03 August 2011 20:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gorro der Grüne is currently offline Gorro der Grüne

 
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It is in Gold and was in 1.13 maybe Lua killed it

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Re: Recruiting Dynamo[message #288271] Wed, 03 August 2011 20:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
cdudau
There is indeed only one bullshitter here and he does in fact reside in the known universe.

All hail KING GORRO!
:king:

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Re: Recruiting Dynamo[message #288294] Wed, 03 August 2011 21:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DepressivesBrot is currently offline DepressivesBrot

 
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The only BS'er is indeed the one that started the BS-calling (yes, that's you tao).

Test Setup: JA2 Gold
Hired Gus, went straight to Tixa, evading the patrols on the way. Slept a bit to be fresh for the fight Wink , wiped out the garrison first thing in the morning, recruited Dynamo -> done.
Image
Explain that.

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Re: Recruiting Dynamo[message #288303] Wed, 03 August 2011 21:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
lockie is currently offline lockie

 
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Tao , a little warning about your conduct ... cut out the childish name calling . :veryangrybear:

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Re: Recruiting Dynamo[message #288304] Wed, 03 August 2011 21:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gorro der Grüne is currently offline Gorro der Grüne

 
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:dontlike: :devilaugh: :shake: :lostwings:

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Re: Recruiting Dynamo[message #288317] Wed, 03 August 2011 22:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
cdudau
The gangs all here!
Minus a few.

My very own fan club!

@lockster

Okay.

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Re: Recruiting Dynamo[message #288322] Wed, 03 August 2011 23:32 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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Thanks .

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