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SCAR 68[message #287063] Wed, 20 July 2011 01:47 Go to next message
vilik

 
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What is it / where do you get it?

I mean, SCAR-L and SCAR-H, sure, i have found those. There are references to SCAR 68 (SV barrel at Bobby Ray). But i have not seen this anywhere.

Granted, I'm only at 88 progress.

Anyone enlighten me?

- Vilik

Edit: I'm running latest release: v. 1.13 4462

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Re: SCAR 68[message #287064] Wed, 20 July 2011 01:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Logisteric

 
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order that 'barrel' (it is a conversion-kit) and merge it to ANY scar -> done
Re: SCAR 68[message #287069] Wed, 20 July 2011 03:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
vilik

 
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Logisteric
order that 'barrel' (it is a conversion-kit) and merge it to ANY scar -> done


Actually, it IS a barrel, not a conversion kit. In sector inventory, it reads "SV 6.8 Barrel", tooltip reads "SCAR-68 SV barrel". AFAIK the only only place to get is is BR.

I already ordered it and received it. It cannot be merged with either SCAR-L or SCAR-H (all attachment slots are grayed out while holding it).

This was primary reason for my question - I'm curious what this is for and existence of this barrel lead me to believe that there is some gun called SCAR-68.

Thoughts?
Re: SCAR 68[message #287070] Wed, 20 July 2011 03:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Logisteric

 
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try to merge it anyway - r&s + extender components are always greyed out - afaik it can be merged (never use scar.s as i never use ugly guns)
Re: SCAR 68[message #287086] Wed, 20 July 2011 07:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DepressivesBrot

 
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There are 'Barrels' and there are 'Conversion kits', you need the latter to switch from a 5.56mm SCAR to a 6.8mm SCAR.


Re: SCAR 68[message #287092] Wed, 20 July 2011 09:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Logisteric

 
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i stand correcte - sorry vilik
Re: SCAR 68[message #287100] Wed, 20 July 2011 11:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
usrbid

 
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Ha, ha, the 6.8 barrel is what you get when you convert a SCAR 6.8 into something else using a conversion kit, is that so DB?


Re: SCAR 68[message #287117] Wed, 20 July 2011 13:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
vilik

 
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I think I get it now.

SCAR-68 is a weapon you get by applying conversion kit to SCAR-L and/or SCAR-H. This changes the caliber to 6.8 SPC. THEN you apply SV barrel-68 to change it to sniper variant.

So SCAR-68 cannot be dropped or bought, but is created with conversion kit.

Sounds about right, but I cannot test it ATM.

Anyway, thanks for all responses.

- Vilik
Re: SCAR 68[message #287130] Wed, 20 July 2011 15:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DepressivesBrot

 
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Dieter
Ha, ha, the 6.8 barrel is what you get when you convert a SCAR 6.8 into something else using a conversion kit, is that so DB?
The merges for the SCAR are directly reversible.
e.g.
SCAR-L + SV barrel => SCAR-L SV + CQC barrel
SCAR-68 SV + SCAR-L kit => SCAR-L + SCAR-68 SV kit

vilik
SCAR-68 is a weapon you get by applying conversion kit to SCAR-L and/or SCAR-H. This changes the caliber to 6.8 SPC. THEN you apply SV barrel-68 to change it to sniper variant.
The 6.8 conversion works only with the L, the WP conversion only with the H variant. Also, there's a kit available that converts any of the two SCAR-L directly to the 6.8 SV variant


Re: SCAR 68[message #287189] Thu, 21 July 2011 00:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
UniversalWolf

 
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vilik
SCAR-68 is a weapon you get by applying conversion kit to SCAR-L and/or SCAR-H. This changes the caliber to 6.8 SPC. THEN you apply SV barrel-68 to change it to sniper variant.

So SCAR-68 cannot be dropped or bought, but is created with conversion kit.

Think of it this way...there are really 8 different types of the SCAR in the game, 4 CQC variants and 4 DMR variants:

"HEAVY" SCARs
SCAR-H CQC (Close Quarters Combat)
SCAR-H SV (Sniper Variant)
SCAR-WP CQC
SCAR-WP SV

"LIGHT" SCARs
SCAR-L CQC
SCAR-L SV
SCAR-68 CQC
SCAR-68 SV

The heavy SCARs use larger diameter cartridges -- 7.62mm NATO and 7.62mm Russian. The light SCARs use smaller diameter cartridges -- 5.56mm NATO and 6.8mm SPC. 6.8mm SPC seems like it should be bigger, but it's basically a modified 5.56mm cartridge with a larger bullet so the dimensions are actually very close.

You can turn any LIGHT SCAR into any other LIGHT SCAR, and you can turn any HEAVY SCAR into any other HEAVY SCAR, but you cannot turn a LIGHT SCAR into a HEAVY SCAR or a HEAVY SCAR into a LIGHT SCAR.

BTW, the only reason SCAR-68s can't be dropped or bought is that they're not assigned to shop or soldier inventories in the XML files. You could change that if you wanted to.
Re: SCAR 68[message #288352] Thu, 04 August 2011 03:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
vulgarmonkey

 
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Sorry to chime in here, but I've only recently started looking at the scar variants myself.

No idea how they perform in ncth, but in the previous versions of 113 they seem to be well regarded, especially as it gives you a more flexible loadout and such.

However, under ncth I've noticed that weapons such as the aug a3 are much improved.....only problem being that 6.8mm requires shipping in...a weakness in my supply chain. It's expensive and limits my time and mobility.

So, if you were going to choose a calibre to run your SCARs....which would it be?
Re: SCAR 68[message #288381] Thu, 04 August 2011 17:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Lepidosteus

 
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Money typically isn't an issue when 6.8es are available, so my logistics team make frequent trips with the helicopter to resupply my A team. Even so, I rarely use more than one 6.8 gun and that will usually be the SCAR or the AUG A3 on a low-Str merc.
Otherwise I use 5.56 LMGs (L85A2 /w betamags) and 7.62 nato/54R as ARs/snipers.
Re: SCAR 68[message #288497] Sat, 06 August 2011 03:40 Go to previous message
UniversalWolf

 
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SCARs are disappointing in NCTH, IMO. There are better performers in every caliber the SCARs use.

For 6.8mm SPC, the AUG A3 > SCAR-68

For 5.56mm NATO, the Tavor TAR-21 > SCAR-L

For 7.62mm WP, the AK-103 > SCAR-WP

For 7.62mm NATO, the HK417 and FN FAL OSW > SCAR-H

Your best bet is probably to use a SCAR-H SV in its intended role of DMR -- not as an AR.

Which is not to say you can't use the CQC models effectively, just that there are better options.
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