Yo Wil, the 7.62x25 SMG AP pic is the same as the Ball pic, not sure if that was intentional.

I think I'm stuffed:

My Jeep was destroyed while quietly sitting in Atremo when I returned when it was reoccupied by enemy soldiers. No problem - another Jeep respawned in the car park where the original one was found. Trying to remove the the "dead" version of the jeep alwways caused an assertion error - even when the new jeep is in another square. Okay, so leave dead old jeep alone. Merc gets in Jeep and drives around. Merc gets out. New Merc gets in drives around - but now can't get out of jeep. Any attempt to reassign merc causes assertion error. Any ideas?

Rattus

this time I ran it with the original settings from another drive then my system drive and a normal folder C:\JA2UB113 (d: is my systemdrive). Now it doesn't bug out in the subway but bugs out everywhere, also my saved games bug out. sometimes when loading, sometimes when saving.
destiny just won't let me play this.

I have a situation where Rosebud is trying to punch an enemy lying unconscious on the ground and I get the spinning clock icon and after a short time waiting the action is not performed. I can repeat this over and over, always getting the clock, but no action is performed.

I uploaded a save game here.

If this is not a UC related issue but a 1.13 issue, can you please let RoWa know so that he can take a look. I vaguely recall having seen this before a long time ago.

Edit: In D5 someone drops a 71 round 12.7 magazine for the KSVK, regular size is 5 rounds.

Edit 2: The Beretta 93R has a single AP of 18 and also a burst AP of 18, unless I didn't read it right, not sure if burst AP same as single was intentional.

Edit 3: The HK MP5A4 with an HK Optics RIS lists in the pop up that you can mount a Clamp on Scope but when I try to attach the Clamp on Battle Scope 4x I get a message that I am not allowed to attach it. Not sure if there is a different type of clamp on scope, I thought there was only one.

Attaching the AK RIS Reflex Handguard to an AKS-74U doesn't allow me to attach the RSA/SVU RIS Scope Mount *nor* the PO 3.5x21P scope even though the pop up description box says you are allowed to. The AK RIS Handguard does not have that problem. Am I not understanding this correctly?

The RSA/SVU RIS Scope Mount says you can attach a PO 3.5x21P scope but doesn't allow it.

There is a difference between attaching a Clamp on Battle Scope to the HK MP5A4 versus using HK Optics RIS with a Battle Scope, both say x4 magnification, however here is what is different, not sure if this was intentional:

AP to ready is -10% for the RIS version while the clamp on version has -15%. The same is true for Single Attack AP modifier, -10% for RIS and -15% for clamp on. More disturbingly the Tunnel Vision is +50% for the RIS version but +75% for the clamp on version. Other than that all other values are identical, I checked them side by side.

Edit 4: There is a patrol group defined to go into C3, they tend to move east into C4, which becomes a little of a slaughter fest as you shoot them down in the water from the roofs at the shore. I can easily hold the secotr with 2 guys against 18 enemies was the most I got so far. While I don't know for sure, I can probably hold it against the maximum of 32. I would just remove C3 from the patrol group. Fighting in D4 is not quite as boring, so you can leave D3 in the patrol groups.

How far away is/was Rosebud from the enemy? Did you try moving him one tile towards the enemy before going for the attack?

Deleted the magazine, and restarted the map editor before giving the gangster another magazine. New D5 will be in v3.60, though I haven't gotten around to testing it.

v3.60 drops the 2nd AK Handguard and allows optics directly on it. This involved the addition of what is for now an "AK only" optics slot.

I'm actually iching to render C2 to C3 traffic impossible.

By the way, the farms around Port Kip are wonderful, love the tractors, hay bails, crops grown inside buildings etc. I don't recall these in Vanilla UC, but maybe I didn't explore around Port Kip that much.

More bugs: The sector inventory of E6 shows a 1P21 Minuta Sniper Scope 9x but I cannot find it with Alt+E on the map. Maybe the scope was supposed to be on the Vepr 308 which is in the sector and the attachment rules didn't allow it, so now the scope is in limbo. When I hover over the scope it doesn't show a green dot in the little thumbnail map in the bottom right.

Edit 2: You probably already know, Tony is removing the folding stock system.

Eidt: I just saw you cannot travel from D4 to C4, so you should be cool with restricting C2 to C3.

Edit 3: From the EDB it looks like the prone bonus of the gripod is added to the bonus of the RIS bipod, I see -100% prone bonus. I never had a gripod in real life, but I think only the better bipod bonus should take effect. While in real life you can mount both to a gun, you can just disallow having both attached to a gun in game if this makes it easier.

I checked the XML, D4 to C4 and C4 to D4 movement are defined as "TOWN" so they should be allowed.

The Grippod and the RIS Bipod should be incompatible attachments (they are in my current RC of v3.60). What version of UC-1.13? are you running. I remember doing something within the last three months with the RIS Grip, but nothing recent with v3.60.

More bugs: The sector inventory of E6 shows a 1P21 Minuta Sniper Scope 9x but I cannot find it with Alt+E on the map. Maybe the scope was supposed to be on the Vepr 308 which is in the sector and the attachment rules didn't allow it, so now the scope is in limbo. When I hover over the scope it doesn't show a green dot in the little thumbnail map in the bottom right.

have a situation where Rosebud is trying to punch an enemy lying unconscious on the ground and I get the spinning clock icon and after a short time waiting the action is not performed. I can repeat this over and over, always getting the clock, but no action is performed

I guess I didn't check the last post to get the v3.60 (Full), will it be save game compatible to 3.59?

I think this could may be related to the specific tile it happens on, seeing as how UC

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UC-1.13 v3.60 has not been released yet, still waiting for a patch to JA2 v1.13 itself (waiting for a NCTH bug fix to be available to the general public).

No, v3.60 (all three of them) will not be compatible with the previous versions.

moving Port Kip UBT station, below Port Kip

edits to UBT stations that change layout (better concealment of the train tunnels)

I have to say that UC is particulary prone to this bug, it happend in every version of UC i played and under wildly different circumstances.

wil473

moving Port Kip UBT station, below Port Kip

:giggles: What was the problem? I read that the original UC team couldn't figure it out.

wil473

edits to UBT stations that change layout (better concealment of the train tunnels)

I noticed that some UB maps look a little unfinished at the lower border, like the colors are slightly off etc., is this going to be fixed too?

I believe I was in the square diagonal adjacent, I was punching the guy who was lying on the floor. This makes it so interesting, maybe RoWa wants to look into this?

More bugs for Wil: Not really a bug, but I feel those barrels Smithy is selling are a little too small. I am talking about the 5.56x56 LMG, 7.62x51 etc. barrles.

Also ammo could be a tad more expensive in general, maybe double of what it is now? A good rule of thumb is maybe 50 cents per bullet for rifle and 30 cents for handgun (except rimfire like .22 LR).

I haven't checked BR yet, is there AET in UC? As far as I know I haven't seen any yet (which I like, I feel AET is unrealistic).

Ok, v3.60 will bump the size up from Size 18 (it shares this with pistol suppressors and the Gun Barrel Extender) to Size 27 (AMR Suppressor). Also, I'm wondering why Smithy is selling replacement barrels for military weapons?

The prices were redone only a few months ago, based partially on prices from US online gun shops.

I would prefer not to do anything magazines related till after New Magazine System.

Unrealistic stuff can be found from only one source in UC-1.13, the Vacationing Arms Dealer in Drake.

More UC-113 bugs: The Colt CAR-15 .223 could be a little less reliable. After fighting all night I went to Atremo for repairing and it turns out that the status of the CAR is still 100% even after shooting 45 rounds from it.

Dieter

... The Colt CAR-15 .223 could be a little less reliable. ...

I think that's the first time someone has asked me to lower reliability further...

The CAR is supposed to be a big hunk of junk, at least that was my impression from the Vanilla UC. You typically upgrade the gun before you get to shoot all of the 223 ammo.

But be careful when lowering, maybe have someone test it, I have seen in a recent mod (might have been V:R) that the reliability was so low, the gun *never* lost status, it stayed at 100% through my entire game and I must have cycled easy 1,500 rounds through it. Maybe this is a potential bug you want to look into?

More bugs: Not really a bug, the Kevlar Leather Jacket could have a little less than -5 AP penalty, it is supposed to be a normal jacket with some kevlar lining, and should be relatively unique in the game e.g. quest or map placed, so I think -2 or -3 would be sufficient, it's not like military armor. Is there armor coverage in 1.13 now? If so, then make it cover less of the body for sure compared to e.g. US Interceptor OTV.

What setup do you have on the CAR-15 that is not degrading?

I probably just copied the Kevlar Vest penalties to the Kevlar & Leather Jacket. As the latter offers less protection, made the following changes for the Leather & Kevlar Jacket and variants in v3.60:
- - OCTH = -3, was -5
- - AP Bonus = -3, was -5
- - NCTH and = -3 all stances, were -5 / -10 / -7

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What setup do you have on the CAR-15 that is not degrading?

Yo Wil, my CAR is degrading, just kept at 100% after 45 shots, maybe I was just lucky.

But to give you more info, c-mag adapter, precision stock, AR15 RIS scope mount, Adv Reflex Sight, Adv Ref Sight 6x scope, muzzle break, foregrip, cleaning kit. It says -5 under reliability.

:giggles: The Drake merchant is selling my Compact eXploder, hihi!

On its own the CAR-15 degrades rapidly. Add the .223 C-Mag to it and it stops degrading. Looks like I'm going to have to increase reliability across the board by 2 to compensate.

Ah, you had me worried there for a moment, I checked the BMP extracted from graphic P3item178, and BulletSix's Compact eXploder seems to be at a slightly different angle than your CX (also different pixel count and different lighting effect).

wil473

On its own the CAR-15 degrades rapidly. Add the .223 C-Mag to it and it stops degrading. Looks like I'm going to have to increase reliability across the board by 2 to compensate.

Oh man really? That will make all weapons lose even less status. How about tracking down what causes the limit bug instead? This will open a wider range of reliability for modders. (I keep giving you crap work ideas, have you noticed?)

... I'm going with 1 in the short term, and treating it as a bug fix. ...

That and there's always resistance to adding "sci-fi" guns, note that those guns are only available from one, easily ignorable, source. Also, didn't you post earlier with concerns about the "sci-fi" nature of AET ammunition?

Since it looks like Vlad is based more on original JA2's Carlos, I took those coordinates.

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Since it looks like Vlad is based more on original JA2's Carlos, I took those coordinates.

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What needs to be done is to keep restarting the game, advancing time till later in the morning so NPC's are not stuck off map, and visit all the possible spawn points till Vlad is found. As long as you do not attack any other Crepaton faction people (Lynn, and Claudia are two that come to mind), Vlad should be friendly and the eye & mouth coordinates can be checked.

Just ran into Jack "Postie" Durham. I believe he was supposed to be a Psycho in Vanilla UC, if you want I can double check, I still have the install, in UC-113 he has no disabilities. He also has just one skill (Stealthy), and is $500 a day, which feels a little steep for 1.13 circumstances. I believe he was $500 in Vanilla too, just for 1.13 a little less may be more suitable.

Edit: Never mind, Postie just talks like a psycho in Vanilla UC, he doesn't actually have the psycho trait. However $500 is still a little high, although you do get a truck when you hire him, he is basically like an expensive Hamous.

I offered that I can playtest, do you want me to test something specific, please let me know?

Edit: Very nice how vehicles are done in the merc roster now, I like that they are sorted like mercs but can't move while empty. Maybe this is something we should do with the heli? (Honestly I haven't thought about the heli much, but I was so excited about how the truck works, it made me wonder if this can be used for the heli too?)

More bugs (in this case suggestions): Civilian rifles like the SL8 or the SKS should allow a trigger group to give a 3 round burst. Well, technically you should be able to attach a full auto trigger group, but there is no such thing in the game - yet. Some rifles will need a full auto bolt assembley, however some civilian rifles already come with a full auto bolt, your trigger group just doesn't support full auto.

Edit: The Alexander Arms Beowulf rifle doesn't allow a trigger group. As far as I can remember the law enforcement version comes with full auto standard, so you can blow all 10 rounds from the mag in half a second if you feel that is necessary - and yes, sometimes it is.

About testing the RC, you said that 3.60 won't be save game compatible to 3.59, did I get this right? If not, I may just start a new game, what the heck, no harm done blowing away more of those Danubians can't hurt, he, he... :giggles: to Shanga

By the way, A9 sector inventory is now 1,300 items and takes about 15 seconds to close, well, on my old a$$ P3 laptop, but I bet other people notice that as well. I know it has been slow off and on, I wonder if there is anything we can do to speed this up.

Oh, and while we are talking about slow, he, he, hovering your mouse over guns with a dozen attachments, oh man, super duper slow, mouse pointer gets frozen, then jumps over the gun, you need to very carefully tick the mouse so that the pointer ends up hovering over the gun eventually, then wait a second for the pop up to appear.

New UBT Difficulty
Except for Atremo Station, where they only have knives, are the new UBT maps still too difficult?

1300 items? Have you been neglecting to sell stuff to Tony/Betty/Franz/Jake? Not consolidating ammo? (Not sure, but either the current v1.13 patch or the previous official public v1.13 patch has ammo consolidation broken.) Drop All on?

... (still trying to figure out if a dozen attachments at the same time is possible in a literal sense) ...

More possible bugs: I can't seem to attach the LAM-200 to anything I have in the sector inventory in A9. I might be missing the "right" weapon though, not sure. The attachment looks like the AIM flashlight gun attachment.

I don't consolidate ammo into crates. I have maybe one screen of ammo only, I delete all the ball stuff.

Depending on how you count you'll get 15 attachments, some permanent - oh and a super slow, probably one shot per round gun :giggle:

Edit: More potential bugs: The blue bar does not recover when I advance time 60 mins, it does recover when I am at 5 mins. Not sure if this is related to me being in A9, does the Airport facility influence that?

... While you can have a sniper scope and grenade launcher attached to the same weapon, it isn't necessarily a good idea.

... I found Stomper being equipped with a Molotov too much as well. I've swapped it for a Flashbang in v3.60, not sure how it would work in an open underground area (ie. the platform he's standing in the middle of) though. ...

More bugs: After you free John Kulba, he ships you two IC suppressors with a status of 5% each, seems to me that is not right. Also the two rifles you are getting are filled with 30 rounds each, instead of a full mag. Maybe just deliver the rifles empty and put an ammo box in the shipment instead? Not sure if this is possible.

Here comes a stupid question, completely unrelated, but I have been watching some movies lately, zombie movies, hihi. Currently enemies make a decision at the beginning of each round (and after each action) of how to handle the situation where they have no guns. It seems to be an even spread of attacking with knife or fists or running. Can this part of the code be externalized into an XML? Meaning have the percentages read from a file instead. This way a modder can eliminate the running away decision, forcing the enemies to always approach the player and try to punch them. If you are not the right person to answer the question, who should I ask about this? I dared to post this question here as it is mildly related to how the enemies behave in the Atremo UB, where they don't have guns.

Not sure why the two IC Suppressors are also being supplied. The IC Suppressors inhabit a v1.13 item index, so it shouldn't be part of the John Kulba/Ambassador Quest. Not unless I missed the memo about getting a pair of Item 557's (IC Suppressor) along with the pair of Item 56's (SAW's in UC, but Automag III's in stock).