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Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS[message #323647]

Sun, 04 August 2013 19:49

hrqa

Messages:14
Registered:April 2013

jesus. That mean I make myself.

Since I understand how to make sti file.

but AK-100 seies is exist, why AK-74M doesnt?
i can't understand it.

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Private

Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS[message #323650]

Sun, 04 August 2013 20:23

DepressivesBrot

Messages:3651
Registered:July 2009

Easy:
All major mods build on the items that were in 1.13 when they branched off.
1.13 had a phase when the old vanilla item limit had just been removed. In that phase pretty much any gun someone could find got included.
Now the modders apply stricter standards for inclusion but don't bother to purge the existing set.

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Captain

Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS[message #323651]

Sun, 04 August 2013 21:06

iklop

Messages:82
Registered:July 2013
Location: Germany

I hope wil is okay with this Very Happy

http://s7.directupload.net/images/130804/temp/eo64ocxq.png

http://s1.directupload.net/images/130804/temp/ueh6b4wn.png

Thank you very much Flugente :cheerleader:

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Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS[message #323652]

Sun, 04 August 2013 21:33

hrqa

Messages:14
Registered:April 2013

and. um,,, Since Zastava M series AR is added. so

Zastava M85
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/df/Zastava_M85.png
cartridge: 5.56 x 45mm
weight: 3.5kg
Length: 800mm with folding stock / 540mm without folding stock

and

Zastava M92
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/da/M92.jpg

cartridge: 7.62x39mm
Weight : 3.57 kg
Length: 795 mm stock extracted / 550 mm stock folded
Rate of fire: 620 rounds per minute

can you add this in AFS?

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Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS[message #323654]

Sun, 04 August 2013 22:15

wolf00

Messages:1147
Registered:September 2006
Location: Czech Republic

these are clones from akmsu compact asault rifle ...

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Sergeant Major

Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS[message #323661]

Mon, 05 August 2013 08:27

hrqa

Messages:14
Registered:April 2013

but.. the design and made company is different.

Than what about Zastava M70B1,B2?
that is AK clone Rifle

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Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS[message #323663]

Mon, 05 August 2013 09:33

pheloncab

Messages:278
Registered:August 2004
Location: So. Cal. or texas

hidasf

but.. the design and made company is different.

Than what about Zastava M70B1,B2?
that is AK clone Rifle

Thats the point.. they are CLONES, which we already have huge numbers of.

If there are specific clones you want, then you should add them to your personal game.
if you make a clone and you want it in a mod, then you should copy all the information after you have made and tested it and mail it to the mod owner for consideration.

repeatedly asking for more clones of items generally just gets on a mod makers nerves, which most of us try not to have happen because we want them to continue to produce the quality and fun mods that we get for free.

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Master Sergeant

Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS[message #323679]

Mon, 05 August 2013 18:00

eNVee

Messages:3
Registered:June 2012
Location: Russia

Breaking the subject that's been going here for some time, how about adding Valmet KvKK62? (Right side view)
I'm pretty sure that this belt-fed machinegun in 7.62x39 is not a clone of something already in the mod.

Also, more weapons in 9.3x64 would be nice, although I don't know any specific models (beyond Tigr-9, but that one would be just a clone of SVDK) to suggest. >_>

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Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS[message #323726]

Tue, 06 August 2013 23:39

iklop

Messages:82
Registered:July 2013
Location: Germany

Greetings :wave:

*scary* 2 days ago i was also looking for rarely used ingame calibers like .458 SOCOM and 9.3*64. Hard to find - or the search machines don't like me.

In 9.3*64, the Tigr 9 was also for me the only weapon about which i could find reliable info.
Another would be the Winchester Model 70, according to this:
http://www.cabelas.com/product/Winchester-Model-Pre-x-MM/1508563.uts
However, the wiki doesn't state the 9.3 caliber :whoknows:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winchester_Model_70

This thread states the Saiga 9 model, yet i couldn't find info on a 9.3*64 version (the provided link leads to a website that's not longer active):
http://www.thehighroad.org/archive/index.php/t-26572.html
As opposed to the link above the Saiga 9 actually uses the 9*53 R:
http://www.izhmash.ru/eng/product/saiga.shtml

I guess the 9.3*64 cartridge is rarely used in reality when it comes to military production/serial models. It's mostly hunters who use the 9.3 - either building their gun by themselves or respectively ask the gunsmith to do so (according to the wiki the Mauser M 98, if modified, can fire the 9.3 round) or made a special order at a gunsmith for building one of their models around this cartridge (forgot the names but i saw some German and Russian gunsmiths during my search which offered their weapons in "many different calibers if ordered/specified" ).

For the .458 SOCOM it's even less info i could find - actually only the Wilson Combat Rifle, which already is ingame.

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Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS[message #323769]

Thu, 08 August 2013 01:50

Headhunter

Messages:263
Registered:November 2009
Location: Sweden

hidasf

AK-74M
http://z.enha.kr/pds/2/2d/AK_2d74/ak04.jpg
Unlike AK-74 , AK-74M has Folding Stock

Dude, just change the name of the AKS-74 and use the AK-107 picture. It takes less than 5 minutes in the XML editor.

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Master Sergeant

Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS[message #323770]

Thu, 08 August 2013 03:56

hrqa

Messages:14
Registered:April 2013

AK-107 is so much different. anyway
I already make AK-74M in sti file.
and .357 Magnum variants too.like colt python 6"

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Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS[message #324251]

Fri, 23 August 2013 05:58

fallschirmjager

Messages:42
Registered:June 2005
Location: Darwin, Australia

EDIT: My bad, it's already in there.

[Updated on: Fri, 23 August 2013 07:11] by Moderator

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Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS[message #324265]

Fri, 23 August 2013 15:34

Slax

Messages:1410
Registered:July 2006
Location: People riding polar bears...

Stocks! For weight management, I'd imagine.

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Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS[message #324293]

Sat, 24 August 2013 16:28

Wil473

Messages:2815
Registered:September 2004
Location: Canada

Slax

Stocks! For weight management, I'd imagine.

Before I consider this the AR base weights need to be sorted out. Does someone mind going through all the AR's and comparing their empty weight to reasonable real world values?

ie: if real M4 = X hg, in-game M4 = Y hg, and default stock for M4 = Z hg

correct for Y so that Y + Z = X

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Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS[message #324302]

Sun, 25 August 2013 02:51

pheloncab

Messages:278
Registered:August 2004
Location: So. Cal. or texas

I make no promises on speed, But i'll volunteer to look into it and see what I can find.

Edit 1: Set up sheet as google Doc so if I am too slow at least what work I've done can be used.

i;ve been using world.guns.ru for many of the weapons, and manufacturer websites for the others.

Spreadsheet view, comments allowed

Stock listings are none, Wire (retracted or folded, with or without buttpad), Composite folded, Fixed, Retractable. I tended to go via weight more than anything since it looks like for many of these we will be guessing the original stock weights.

Weights are also empty weight, with notes on integral items if listed.

[Updated on: Mon, 26 August 2013 07:07] by Moderator

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Master Sergeant

Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS[message #324336]

Mon, 26 August 2013 08:18

ElWrobel

Messages:41
Registered:December 2011

Hmm,an idea just hit me,dunno if it's original or not. Either way,how about light/heavy bolts/slides s an attachment for most weapons? IMO it could be a universal mod,as in one fits all,I don't think there's any point to making individual items for different weapons.

Anyways,what do you think? And is this even doable?

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Corporal

Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS[message #324387]

Tue, 27 August 2013 22:15

Slax

Messages:1410
Registered:July 2006
Location: People riding polar bears...

Valmet M78, anyone? Looks like fun.

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Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS[message #324428]

Thu, 29 August 2013 02:23

Wil473

Messages:2815
Registered:September 2004
Location: Canada

pheloncab

I make no promises on speed, But i'll volunteer to look into it and see what I can find.

Edit 1: Set up sheet as google Doc so if I am too slow at least what work I've done can be used.

i;ve been using world.guns.ru for many of the weapons, and manufacturer websites for the others.

Spreadsheet view, comments allowed

Stock listings are none, Wire (retracted or folded, with or without buttpad), Composite folded, Fixed, Retractable. I tended to go via weight more than anything since it looks like for many of these we will be guessing the original stock weights.

Weights are also empty weight, with notes on integral items if listed.

Thanks, right now, only the weapons with modular (tactical) stocks need to have their weights checked. In game there are only three modular stocks that need to be accounted for:

AR-15 Fixed Stock = 6 hg
AR-15 Telescopic Stock = 6 hg
AR-15 Precision Stock = 8 hg

So if a real M16 = X hg, and in-game M16 = Y hg, then Y = X - 6

With the exception of the few guns that come with the Precision stock default, the in-game weights must be 6 hg less than real world weights.

AK, SIG's, and G36's currently have a stock modification, so their weights should be checked as well... except should these be standardized as being a certain mass less than their unmodified forms. Is there a standard weight for an AK-47 stock that we should account for?

[Updated on: Thu, 29 August 2013 02:34] by Moderator

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Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS[message #324587]

Mon, 02 September 2013 15:04

deknegt

Messages:140
Registered:June 2007
Location: Doetinchem, Netherlands

A few more LBE add-on ideas I got.

I am not sure, but I think there are no bandoliers in the game right now, and the way they work they would be the perfect attachable piece of LBE.

Naturally when you think about those, you think about Clint Eastwood movies where our hero shoots 200 bullets at a time and never even thinks about using those bullets on his bandolier to reload...
But I digress.

There are modern day variants of the bandolier in use by some police forces and some military forces. (Think about a bandoleer for individual shotgun shells, or that badass grenade bandolier Arnie used in T3.

Anyways, bandoleers are still used all around the world, and having your mercs be able to sling a bandoleer across their body is a good way to carry around those shotgun shells or those sniper bullets for guns that don't use clips. And even for guns with mags, there are bandoleers for that too!

And well, it ramps the badassness up to 11 too! That should be reason enough to add it!

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Sergeant

Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS[message #324638]

Tue, 03 September 2013 05:10

pheloncab

Messages:278
Registered:August 2004
Location: So. Cal. or texas

@Wil
I know I'm filling in more than you asked for, I figured it would be helpful to someone modding at some point since I was having to hit the websites anyways.

I noticed most the newer firearms are pretty accurate ~.5kg which seems to be about the difference between websites, though a few were WAY off, so hopefully it all works out.

Also since your mod allows many weapons to go to a tactical version I figured why not gather data since you might change or add more weapons that have this option. and yeah I am hoping once I have most the base data to poke around and see if I can find something better on stock weights, probably hit Magpul for precision stocks, and maybe a few to see the difference between say Wood and Comp. not to mention those Wireframe folding jobbers..

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Master Sergeant

Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS[message #324954]

Tue, 10 September 2013 06:50

ElWrobel

Messages:41
Registered:December 2011

I'd like to see pistol stocks(maybe even a fixed and folding variant),could be a universal item,attachable to most pistols. And I don't mean the pistol2carbine,I mean these nasty bastards .
I'm not sure if it won't be too much effort though Sad

Edit: I don't know why the hyperlink won't work,so here http://i.ebayimg.com/t/GLR-17-FAB-Tactical-Stock-for-GLOCK-Jericho-941-/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/$T2eC16F,!yUE9s6NEHTsBQsKE6nziQ~~60_35.JPG

Also,an FMG-9 type weapon would be nice for our covert operatives Very Happy

[Updated on: Tue, 10 September 2013 08:31] by Moderator

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Corporal

Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS[message #325054]

Wed, 11 September 2013 23:06

mr_clark

Messages:47
Registered:December 2011
Location: Potsdam, Germany

El_Wrobel

I'd like to see pistol stocks(maybe even a fixed and folding variant),could be a universal item,attachable to most pistols. And I don't mean the pistol2carbine,I mean these nasty bastards .
I'm not sure if it won't be too much effort though

Edit: I don't know why the hyperlink won't work,so here http://i.ebayimg.com/t/GLR-17-FAB-Tactical-Stock-for-GLOCK-Jericho-941-/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/$T2eC16F,!yUE9s6NEHTsBQsKE6nziQ~~60_35.JPG

Also,an FMG-9 type weapon would be nice for our covert operatives

Hmm, I personally don't see in how far Pistol-Stocks would be a real change to the pistol2carbine gamewise, apart from being inferior? I mean "p2c" is a pretty low coolness item and getting one is no problem, why would you chose an "inferior product" at the same (low) level?!?

ON the other part: Yes, I agree at least one "weapon out of the box" for each "type" (pistol, smg etc) would be nice for CovertOps guys (even just for the novelty/choice, here, It seems with the DRD Paratus there is one for sniper rifles)

Something else: I don't know if it's intended or a bug or whatever, but the Commando-LMG vest is not reloading LMGs, which makes the "ammo belt" slot on it kinda useless...

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Corporal

Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS[message #325059]

Thu, 12 September 2013 00:02

ElWrobel

Messages:41
Registered:December 2011

Those stocks shouldn't increase size,thus you could holster your weapon without deattaching the stock.

BTW,it's rather easy,I just made one for myself via XML editor,but I agree,it's a very low priority item (if any at all)

As for the cover,easily disassembling weapons,there's one more,a .22LR rifle,but I can't remember it's name,I think it's Armalite.

What LMG are you using? There was one that wasn't belt-fed even though it should be,can't remember what it was though. And I'll check the vest later.

[Updated on: Thu, 12 September 2013 00:03] by Moderator

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Corporal

Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS[message #325060]

Thu, 12 September 2013 00:06

DepressivesBrot

Messages:3651
Registered:July 2009

AR-7 Survival Rifle?

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Captain

Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS[message #325061]

Thu, 12 September 2013 00:06

Faalagorn

Messages:153
Registered:February 2012
Location: Poland

El_Wrobel

there's one more,a .22LR rifle,but I can't remember it's name,I think it's Armalite.

As a sidenote - there's a random chance that the IMP you create might get this, I think it's dependent on the "sniper" trait.

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Staff Sergeant

Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS[message #325064]

Thu, 12 September 2013 00:19

Slax

Messages:1410
Registered:July 2006
Location: People riding polar bears...

DepressivesBrot

AR-7 Survival Rifle?

Pretty sure that's already in.

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Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS[message #325065]

Thu, 12 September 2013 00:20

DepressivesBrot

Messages:3651
Registered:July 2009

Yes, it's on the list. It was in response to El Wrobel

As for the cover,easily disassembling weapons,there's one more,a .22LR rifle,but I can't remember it's name,I think it's Armalite.

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Captain

Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS[message #325067]

Thu, 12 September 2013 00:25

ElWrobel

Messages:41
Registered:December 2011

10 points,that's the one

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Corporal

Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS[message #325068]

Thu, 12 September 2013 00:26

Slax

Messages:1410
Registered:July 2006
Location: People riding polar bears...

Ah, alright.

Anyway, SR-15, SR-25 and SR-30 with goodies.

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Sergeant Major

Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS[message #325074]

Thu, 12 September 2013 01:18

ElWrobel

Messages:41
Registered:December 2011

SR-25 is already in IIRC. I don't think any more guns is needed right now,more LBE,attachments and maybe a rebalance of the current gunz would be more beneficial. Just putting my thoughts,I know this is a weapons and items requests thread Very Happy

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Corporal

Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS[message #325097]

Thu, 12 September 2013 16:12

Wil473

Messages:2815
Registered:September 2004
Location: Canada

El_Wrobel

SR-25 is already in IIRC. I don't think any more guns is needed right now,more LBE,attachments and maybe a rebalance of the current gunz would be more beneficial. Just putting my thoughts,I know this is a weapons and items requests thread

Agreed, though we don't have a SR-25 Carbine or equivalent right now. As far as 7.62x51mm AR's, we have the AR-10 covering non-RIS assault rifle, and the SR-25 covering the DMR roles. The SR-25ECC doesn't have an in-game equivalent yet.

[Updated on: Thu, 12 September 2013 16:13] by Moderator

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Lieutenant

Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS[message #325122]

Thu, 12 September 2013 22:29

wolf00

Messages:1147
Registered:September 2006
Location: Czech Republic

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=NuYviRPOzDY

ok here is something from my country ... basic model is in caliber .223
7.62x39 & 9x19 are optional

http://www.v-ar.cz/en/v-ar-en.html

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Sergeant Major

Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS[message #325134]

Fri, 13 September 2013 07:14

ElWrobel

Messages:41
Registered:December 2011

Hmm,since we're talking Cesk

[Updated on: Fri, 13 September 2013 07:35] by Moderator

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Corporal

Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS[message #325155]

Fri, 13 September 2013 17:38

mr_clark

Messages:47
Registered:December 2011
Location: Potsdam, Germany

El_Wrobel

What LMG are you using? There was one that wasn't belt-fed even though it should be,can't remember what it was though. And I'll check the vest later.

It was the mk48. And I could belt feed it allright with a "loader" and the standard "SAW Vest", just not the Commando-LMG thing...

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Corporal

Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS[message #325159]

Fri, 13 September 2013 18:34

ElWrobel

Messages:41
Registered:December 2011

Mr_Clark

El_Wrobel

What LMG are you using? There was one that wasn't belt-fed even though it should be,can't remember what it was though. And I'll check the vest later.

It was the mk48. And I could belt feed it allright with a "loader" and the standard "SAW Vest", just not the Commando-LMG thing...

Yeah,I just checked,it's fucked,it has the belt fed flag instead of belt LBE.

If you wanna fix it,do this:
1. Go to your installation directory,launch XML editor,if it doesn't want to launch copy from Data-Graphics folders that are in capital letters to data-AFS,UC113 or whatever you've got.

Edit. And also change the data directory XMLEditorInit.xml to whatever mod you're using,that is Data_Directory_1,3rd line,via notepad.
2.Press alt+B or choose,from the top,items-show-by class-Load Bearing.
3.Find Commando LBE - LMG,double click it
4.Choose attributes,in the right column there'll be Flags drop down menu,click it and change from belt fed to belt LBE.
5.Save,check if works Very Happy

[Updated on: Fri, 13 September 2013 18:41] by Moderator

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Corporal

Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS[message #325182]

Sat, 14 September 2013 17:35

mr_clark

Messages:47
Registered:December 2011
Location: Potsdam, Germany

El_Wrobel

5.Save,check if works

Yeah, works just fine now.
Must admit that I am weary using the XML editor with current releases for all the warnings of it stripping certain (new) item properties around the forum...

EDIT: Looking around a little I found a Bullpup RPK (the 762*39 version) but no in-game merger for it.

[Updated on: Sat, 14 September 2013 18:06] by Moderator

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Corporal

Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS[message #325184]

Sat, 14 September 2013 22:48

ElWrobel

Messages:41
Registered:December 2011

I've done quite a lot of editing and haven't noticed any stripped properties,for now at least. Do you,by chance,remember what properties are getting stripped?

[Updated on: Sat, 14 September 2013 22:49] by Moderator

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