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Contrails/Chemtrails[message #291273] Wed, 28 September 2011 22:28 Go to next message
cdudau
Has anyone else seen these in the skies?

I have researched them, but can not find adequate evidence to WHAT they actually are.

Does anyone have any inside knowledge of these? Any former/current pilots maybe?

Thanks,

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Re: Contrails/Chemtrails[message #291274] Wed, 28 September 2011 22:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gorro der Grüne is currently offline Gorro der Grüne

 
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Do You have ANY picture of what You are NOT descriping?

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Re: Contrails/Chemtrails[message #291275] Wed, 28 September 2011 23:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
cdudau


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/23/Contrails_from_a_S7_Tupolev_Tu-154M_Karakas.jpg/800px-Contrails_from_a_S7_Tupolev_Tu-154M_Karakas.jpg


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/85/Contrails.jpg

They dissipate into cirrus clouds

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5e/Cirrus_Clounds.jpg/250px-Cirrus_Clounds.jpg

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Re: Contrails/Chemtrails[message #291277] Wed, 28 September 2011 23:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gorro der Grüne is currently offline Gorro der Grüne

 
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NO 1: Photoshop

No 2/3: normal pics of certain airports under certain wheather conditions (dry, dry AND dry)

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Re: Contrails/Chemtrails[message #291279] Wed, 28 September 2011 23:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
cdudau
I see them in a humid climate every week.

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Re: Contrails/Chemtrails[message #291492] Tue, 04 October 2011 16:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DaethWalker is currently offline DaethWalker

 
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Far as I know it's just exhaust from jet engines. At higher altitudes the warm exhaust forms ice crystals in the colder air. I've been seeing them for as long as I can remember looking up into the sky.

40+ years (I'm 53). Living and growing up in Wilmington, NC. We're near 3 or 4 military air bases, another 3 or 4 international airports and basically underneath the main north/south air corridor along the eastern seaboard.

Depending on atmospheric conditions, they are overhead on a daily basis, appearing and disappearing for a few mins to a cple of hrs, usually at very high altitudes. 30,000 feet or higher or whatever the normal cruising altitude is.

And the 1st picture may not be photoshopped. Looks to me like a plane of some kind on one end. Possibly from an air show. Planes can make these contrails on purpose and at lower altitudes. Not exactly sure of the process.

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Re: Contrails/Chemtrails[message #291495] Tue, 04 October 2011 16:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
cdudau
I have heard that explanation before. I am currently living in a rural area. Why are they above this area? Why are they making X's?

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Re: Contrails/Chemtrails[message #291497] Tue, 04 October 2011 16:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DepressivesBrot is currently offline DepressivesBrot

 
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Why shouldn't they? Can you rule out that it's simply a regular air corridor between two airports that might be 1000km east and west of you (or any other set of directions that puts you on a line between them)?

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Re: Contrails/Chemtrails[message #291503] Tue, 04 October 2011 17:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
cdudau
There are minor airports around. I don't know why they would be so high making an X ???

One day I watched them being made while I was walking delivering mail. Over time, they dissipated into cirrus clouds.

Also, even if it is because of two airports crossing, why/how would it be possible to make an X like that?


I am seriously stumped on this.
I simply can not accept the fact that it is simply ice crystals for the fact that ice does not dissipate into cirrus clouds.

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Re: Contrails/Chemtrails[message #291509] Tue, 04 October 2011 17:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DaethWalker is currently offline DaethWalker

 
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Basically when I said I was near about 6-8 different airports ... I'm actually close to alot more than that. But, close on the ground and close in the air are 2 different things. the closest is at least 15 miles away, the rest 75 - 150 plus miles. Though being hours away by ground transport only minutes away by air.

When you see alot of contrails going in the same direction on a regular basis, you can assume that's a regular corridor, either between 2 airports or between 2 or more geographical points in what's called a countries airspace.

Plans are routed through corridors for various reasons, whether it's to bypass restricted airspace or to just keep easier track of them.

If you are seeing frequent Xs, you are probably near a point where 2 or more corridors intersect.

For example: Both New York City and Miami are 14+ hrs away from where I live by car. 14+ hrs to the north for NYC and 14+ hrs to the south for Miami. But only a cple or so hrs from each other by air. But, probably dozens of non-stop flights to these 2 citys pass overhead every few hours.

Also most if not all commercial airlines are limited to certain air corridors while flying over land. Usually they are restricted by the range of radar, so that they can constantly be tracked by air-traffic controllers.

Eventually this will change, maybe drastically, when we eventually switch to GPS tracking. But, that's probably a story for another thread. Smile

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Re: Contrails/Chemtrails[message #291511] Tue, 04 October 2011 18:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DaethWalker is currently offline DaethWalker

 
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Those contrails making an X could have been made 5 - 30 minutes apart and then evenutally combined simply by being blown together by the wind. Aircraft corridors are not only restricted by the limits of radar. They are also restricted by altitude.

For instance a commercial jetliner traveling form point A to point B may be restricted to fly at 35,000 ft. another one traveling in the opposite direction may be restricted to fly at basically the same altitude, but maybe a mile further to the east or west. Military craft taking the same corridor may be restricted to fly at 40,000 ft. Commercial Propeller driven aircraft at 30,000, etc...

You often here of flights being "stacked" at busy airports. These are aircraft flying at different altitudes.

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Re: Contrails/Chemtrails[message #301618] Tue, 13 March 2012 01:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
cdudau
I found out what these things are and the reason why we are having record temperatures this winter.

Mostly aluminum, barium, et cetera. metals. They dissipate into cirrus clouds. Cirrus clouds hold and circulate radiation better than any other cloud type. Where I live there are no major airports, yet every single day that it is 20 - 30 degrees warmer than the norm....I see these trails and jets in the skies. Yesterday I watched the dust drift east. I also watched as it drifted from the sky toward the earth.

This is the beginning of man controlling the weather. We even had earthquakes where no tectonic plates occur.

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Re: Contrails/Chemtrails[message #301641] Tue, 13 March 2012 11:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
lockie is currently offline lockie

 
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yet every single day that it is 20 - 30 degrees warmer than the norm...


20 - 30 degrees ..... really ? :nono: Are you sure it isn't more like 2 - 3 degrees ?

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Re: Contrails/Chemtrails[message #301672] Tue, 13 March 2012 14:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
cdudau
No man. It has been 50, 60, and even 70 degrees here all winter. I can count how many times it snowed on one hand. Usually the temperature is in the 40, 30, 20, and on down in winter here.

Promise Lockster.

Edit:
Just check the government site.
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/national/

[Updated on: Tue, 13 March 2012 14:59]

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Re: Contrails/Chemtrails[message #301681] Tue, 13 March 2012 15:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
lockie is currently offline lockie

 
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ahum ... oh well , get yer shorts out Santa , we're going surfin' !

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Re: Contrails/Chemtrails[message #301682] Tue, 13 March 2012 15:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
cdudau
Desertification world wide.

Water is poison.

The ones with the water make the capital.
and
Of course, Monsanto with their genetically modified foods.

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Re: Contrails/Chemtrails[message #301686] Tue, 13 March 2012 16:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
lockie is currently offline lockie

 
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Desertification


That's not even a word Tao !

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Re: Contrails/Chemtrails[message #301687] Tue, 13 March 2012 16:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DepressivesBrot is currently offline DepressivesBrot

 
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Actually, it is.

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Re: Contrails/Chemtrails[message #301703] Wed, 14 March 2012 00:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kaerar is currently offline Kaerar

 
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It means to have a banquet turned into Desert only Very Happy

Errr, I mean the expansion of the major deserts around the globe Wink

Monsanto are starting to get uppity though as people are fighting back and winning against them. So they are taking to men in black with guns and violence as a response. Something very hard to combat, without falling into the trap of being a vigilante.

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Re: Contrails/Chemtrails[message #301720] Wed, 14 March 2012 06:40 Go to previous message
cdudau
Monsanto is doing very nasty things and winning supreme court cases for patent infringement. Also, for the cases thy lose part of the final deal is to have their scientists conduct experiments on the infected and/or monitor them. It is happening here in Appalachia. This is a major battle for our well being and food supplies.

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