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Re: HAM 5 Alpha - You know it, bitches!![message #297092] Sat, 21 January 2012 22:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sowilo is currently offline Sowilo

 
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Hi,

I just started playing JA2 1.13 HAM5 AIMNAS V25 and gave Enricos letter to the contact woman in Omerta. She took it but then ... nothing happened. She didn't react in any way and Dimitri in the other Omerta-sector refuses to let me in.

Is this a bug, too less leadership (30) or anything else ..? Or is it possible to go on, taking Drassen anyway ..?

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Re: HAM 5 Alpha - You know it, bitches!![message #297093] Sat, 21 January 2012 22:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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This is a known issue with big maps, the quest doesn't work. However, if you haven't realized yet, JA2 doesn't have mandatory quests you must fulfill to 'take a city' or something, just go there and kill some baddies.

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Re: HAM 5 Alpha - You know it, bitches!![message #297094] Sat, 21 January 2012 22:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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.. this quest is never performable with my version?! So no Ira, Dimitri, Carlos, etc....? The whole game long..? Cause the letter is away ..

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Re: HAM 5 Alpha - You know it, bitches!![message #297095] Sat, 21 January 2012 22:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Nope, no aid from any of the rebels. And 'whole game long' is only the north east corner of the map anyway.

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Re: HAM 5 Alpha - You know it, bitches!![message #297096] Sat, 21 January 2012 22:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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.. and this is normal with this version or just "a maybe" ...?

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Re: HAM 5 Alpha - You know it, bitches!![message #297097] Sat, 21 January 2012 22:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Always apologize my terrible English .... I'm a German .--

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Re: HAM 5 Alpha - You know it, bitches!![message #297099] Sat, 21 January 2012 22:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It's 'normal' for the AIMNAS V25 big maps, independent of the used exe. So it's not really a HAM issue.

Edit: And why do we have a proportionally higher tendency to apologize? Always leaves me wondering ...

[Updated on: Sat, 21 January 2012 22:57] by Moderator

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Re: HAM 5 Alpha - You know it, bitches!![message #297101] Sat, 21 January 2012 22:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I see... last question: When I leave a sector, nearly all left behind items are gone away. Is this also normal..? Quite new experience for me. Might be more realistic but shit .... everythings away ;o(

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Re: HAM 5 Alpha - You know it, bitches!![message #297102] Sat, 21 January 2012 23:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Uhm, no. That's a bug. Good thing you mention it as you seem to be the first non-UC player having that issue.

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Re: HAM 5 Alpha - You know it, bitches!![message #297104] Sun, 22 January 2012 01:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Update on the sector inventory bug: It seems like it is triggered by loading the sector directly form the map. My bugged sector did not reset when I took one of my mercs to the next sector and came back form the tactical. Since I was using metro excessively where I was just doing hits from metro nonstop, I did not load sectors directly from the map, hence why Tag noticed it before me. And that underground sector happened when I hauled the items from it with a donkey and loaded it again to advance with my squad.

Tl:dr, it seems to be only triggered if you load the sector from the map. I can avoid it by changing sectors by walking to the edges.

Quick edit: Even if you have noone in the sector and just load it from the tactical, it will still trigger.

[Updated on: Sun, 22 January 2012 01:48] by Moderator

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Re: HAM 5 Alpha - You know it, bitches!![message #297114] Sun, 22 January 2012 12:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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There are also some minor bugs, like items in the mercenary-inventory are somewhere beside its normal place or mercenaries lying "through" a wall.

But I really hate the letter-issue .... would probably be a loyalty-problem too ...

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Re: HAM 5 Alpha - You know it, bitches!![message #297119] Sun, 22 January 2012 15:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Two new kinds of CTD's : one when buying from a bartender and not putting what was bought in merc's inventory and one when an enemy picked up an item (although it is not every time in this case).

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Re: HAM 5 Alpha - You know it, bitches!![message #297602] Thu, 02 February 2012 03:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Absolutly great mod!

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Re: HAM 5 Alpha - You know it, bitches!![message #298707] Sun, 12 February 2012 11:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hello is it possible to play HAM5+ using bigger WF maps? (or are they already included)

If so, where can i get the WF maps from ? Do i have to download full WF and manually install the maps?

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Re: HAM 5 Alpha - You know it, bitches!![message #298710] Sun, 12 February 2012 11:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Get AIMNASv25 (and exactly this version) for big maps and full support of new HAM features (transformations and frag explosives). Follow my old instructions here.

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Re: HAM 5 Alpha - You know it, bitches!![message #298711] Sun, 12 February 2012 12:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
buuface is currently offline buuface

 
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Thanks very much DepressivesBrot!



But loading AIMNAS will mean i lose the NCTH support, wont it ?

It seems like a lot of work has gone into balancing the NCTH in the latest HAM, was really looking forward to trying it out...

[Updated on: Sun, 12 February 2012 12:14] by Moderator

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Re: HAM 5 Alpha - You know it, bitches!![message #298712] Sun, 12 February 2012 12:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well, yes ... that's the side effect. Life's full of choices Razz

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Re: HAM 5 Alpha - You know it, bitches!![message #298713] Sun, 12 February 2012 12:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I found this link http://kermi.pp.fi/JA_2/Maps/Wildfire/v4552+/

Maybe that would be better for just the maps? What do you think?

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Re: HAM 5 Alpha - You know it, bitches!![message #298714] Sun, 12 February 2012 12:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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That's standard sized WF maps. Still a solid improvement over Vanilla maps. So if you want to check out NCTH, go for those. And also get AFS, has a much better reputation for NCTH balance than the basic 1.13 data.

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Re: HAM 5 Alpha - You know it, bitches!![message #298911] Tue, 14 February 2012 08:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dyson is currently offline Dyson

 
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Hi Headrock,

first: Thank you for the great work. Actually I am very happy with the sector inventory and the transformations.

Dont't know if it was discussed before but I would really like to see additional sorting options in the inventory.

In my mind, the buttons for weapons, ammo, etc should be in one line. Beneath that row there should be e.g. for weapons, buttons for the classes (pistols, mp, smg, etc.). If you click on ammo, you should have similar options like in BR (or other configurations, of course). In LBE you should be able to select between the different types (cp, bp, belt, vest, ect). It would be great if you could make the bombs and grenades sortable by caliber (if not, that's not bad, there aren't that much different grenades). Armor is clear (head, legs, chest).


I have no idea wether this suggestion is doable or not or how intricrate the work will be.

Maybe you'll be able to implement that. Anyway, again, thank you for the great new features! Smile

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Re: HAM 5 Alpha - You know it, bitches!![message #299161] Thu, 16 February 2012 18:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dyson is currently offline Dyson

 
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Let me say it with Paul Young's words:

Why don't you come back, pleeeeeeeeeeeeeease hurry!! Wink





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Re: HAM 5 Alpha - You know it, bitches!![message #300064] Thu, 23 February 2012 12:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Is this compatible with latest 1.13 release?

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Re: HAM 5 Alpha - You know it, bitches!![message #300251] Sat, 25 February 2012 00:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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From what I understand, it's not, as it's built on its own executable.

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Re: HAM 5 Alpha - You know it, bitches!![message #300257] Sat, 25 February 2012 02:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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illuminatus
From what I understand, it's not, as it's built on its own executable.


correct.

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Re: HAM 5 Alpha - You know it, bitches!![message #300527] Tue, 28 February 2012 21:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'm not sure if I broke something, or if this is normal, but after the big counterattack in drassen, I was never attacked in a city again (or a sam site).

I'm not sure if I messed up the ini settings, here are the relevant ones:
INITIAL_GARRISON_PERCENTAGES_INSANE = 200
MIN_ENEMY_GROUP_SIZE_INSANE = 30 (was 20)
PERCENT_EXTRA_ELITES_INSANE = 100
QUEENS_INITIAL_POOL_OF_TROOPS_INSANE = 8000
ENEMY_STARTING_ALERT_LEVEL_INSANE = 100
ENEMY_ALERT_DECAY_INSANE = 1
NUM_AWARE_BATTLES_INSANE = 4
BASE_DELAY_IN_MINUTES_BETWEEN_EVALUATIONS_INSANE = 30
EVALUATION_DELAY_VARIANCE_INSANE = 30
GRACE_PERIOD_IN_HOURS_AFTER_SECTOR_LIBERATION_INSANE = 6
GRACE_PERIOD_IN_DAYS_AFTER_PATROL_DESTROYED_INSANE = 1

I have a full set of 32 militia in each town sector except san mona.

Actually, sorry, I took Omerta, Drassen and Cambria, plus Drassen and Cambria's Sam Sites.

Now I'm hanging out in Cambria, repaired, healed up, equipped my mercs, was about to go to Chitzena/Grumm when I realized I've never been attacked again, so I let the game run for two weeks, and nothing was attacked.

Did you alter anything relating to enemy patrols?

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Re: HAM 5 Alpha - You know it, bitches!![message #300528] Tue, 28 February 2012 21:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If your cities are full off elite militia, enemies can chicken out.

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Re: HAM 5 Alpha - You know it, bitches!![message #300532] Tue, 28 February 2012 22:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Redwolf is currently offline Redwolf

 
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I could have sworn that never happened in the past, neither with vanilla nor (much) earlier versions of 1.13.

Edit:
So, I killed off all my militia, and let another few days advance, still no attacks...

But I do have at least a single merc in most sectors, maybe it's

MERCS_OFFENSE_IN_AUTORESOLVE_BATTLES_BONUS = 500
MERCS_DEFFENSE_IN_AUTORESOLVE_BATTLES_BONUS = 500

I'll try lowering that next...

No change...

I dismissed all my mercs, except hamous, which I moved in the truck to omerta, and upon advancing time again my game freezes (100% cpu usage, have to kill via taskmon) as soon as it reaches 21:39 of the current day (approximately 4 hours later).

I think I messed everything up with my numerous xml/ini changes...

Edit #2: Nevermind, the freezes was from all my mercs simultaneously dropping their gear in drassen, it resolved itself after letting it run for 3 minutes.

I've reinstalled everything, only made changes to enemy/militia/creature slots in tactical (so savegame would load), and still nothing is attacking.

I'll try making a new game next, and let you know if I get attacked then.

[Updated on: Tue, 28 February 2012 23:06] by Moderator

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Re: HAM 5 Alpha - You know it, bitches!![message #300537] Wed, 29 February 2012 00:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Redwolf is currently offline Redwolf

 
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Okay, so I've made a new game, made some ini changes to let militia get trained faster, and have 1 leadership be enough to make militia, then I went ahead and with cheating took drassen and cambria (as far as I was in my game), cleaned up a little bit in adjacent sectors, and started training militia.

Attacks were very heavy (not counting the drassen counterattack) in the first 3-4 days after taking drassen and cambria, but after that they slowed down considerably (1 attack per day or so).

Then I enabled elite militia training, upgraded all my militia to elite, and noticed that indeed, they would attack less with elites (1 attack every 3 days), so I disbanded some in the middle drassen sector, and they'd attack there faster again, I can actually direct where I'd like them to attack by having less militia in a sector.

Anyhow, attacks never stopped, so nevermind, I just messed something up in my savegame.

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Re: HAM 5 Alpha - You know it, bitches!![message #300593] Wed, 29 February 2012 14:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Also another factor that can be affecting this is the queen's reinforcement pool, i.e. how much men she can throw at you day after day. If you want massive attacks like the first 3-4 days everyday then up those numbers considerably, or make them unlimited.

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Re: HAM 5 Alpha - You know it, bitches!![message #300651] Thu, 01 March 2012 05:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You can maybe also play with the aggressive AI setting in the ini file.

On that note, I'm actually still kinda fuzzy on the relationship between the garrison and the pool of available troops. What determines the parameters for the queen drawing troops from the pool and sending them at you? How often, how many troops, etc. Obviously if the pool is unlimited, she doesn't send entire sectors of infantry, marching in an Arulco-length column at you. There seems to be some sort of limit in place.

And if you aren't playing with unlimited on, it becomes a moot point once the pool is empty, I think, because then she's limited to sending at you the number that the pool refreshes at... I think the default is 60 per difficulty level... and though that pool fills up an "unlimited" number of times, it only fills so fast, if I understand the ini notes.

So actually, I think a large part of getting her to send troops after you later game is upping the refresh number, rather than the initial pool size. Once you've killed off several hundred enemies (the garrison, plus the pool), she can only send out a certain size group, which can only accomplish so much. For reference, expert difficulty has a starting garrison of 150, and a pool of 400. Once you kill off those 550 bad guys (pretty quickly with large battles, and it won't even be this number, since some will remain garrisoned within unconquered towns) she only can add 180 to send after you, and obviously some of those are going to get demolished by town militia, and you'll never get to see them, and some of them will probably reinforce unconquered towns, and not get seen right away. Fighting a battle of 60+ in something like the DCA, or reinforcements from adjacent sectors... will get progressively rarer I would think, unless she gets more than 180 (less in lower difficulties) at a time to work with.

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Re: HAM 5 Alpha - You know it!![message #300659] Thu, 01 March 2012 08:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi I am running Tai's unsteable 4930 with HAM5.51 installed. (I have also swapped over the TableData and relevant item images from AIMNASv20). I am also using Dimitri's Jagged Alliance deadly games Merc add-on. (hired posty and reuben)


Day 1 20:32 I receive an email which causes CTD (no error message) when I click to open the laptop interface.

On one occasion I was able to open the email before it crashed.

The message sender is labled as Speck but the email is signed by "Richard"

I had received one other in-game email of a similar nature which didnt cause a crash

here is the image http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/2396/strangeemail.jpg

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These emails seem to be from some other version or mod of the game (JA Unfinished Business?)

Ive tried various things to stop this crash but nothing is seeming to work.

game_log.txt says this:

[8.40466] : ERROR : ========== Thu Mar 01 13:23:53 2012 ==========
File : ..\src\Core\vfs_file_raii.cpp
Line : 34
Location : vfs::COpenReadFile::COpenReadFile

file "AMBIENT\32.bad" does not exist

I have checked this for this file AMBIENT\32.bad and it is in Data-UB/Data-files.

Tried deleting it and even the whole Data-UB folder (fishing in the dark here) but the crash is still exactly the same.

Can anyone please help me???

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Re: HAM 5 Alpha - You know it!![message #301545] Sun, 11 March 2012 21:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Redwolf is currently offline Redwolf

 
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Try putting the stuff from Data-UB into your Data-113 folder (not overwriting of course), this might be massively messy (make a backup of everything first?) But it could just solve your crashes.

Alternatively, wait for someone with a clue to give a better suggestion Smile

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Re: HAM 5 Alpha - You know it!![message #302905] Sat, 07 April 2012 03:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hey Headrock you genius little jew, nice to see you haven

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Re: HAM 5 Alpha - You know it!![message #302916] Sat, 07 April 2012 08:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Where is the elusive and mysterious Headrock these days anyway?

I'm going to have to send him an email... I want to make some AI changes but don't want to reinvent what's already been done in HAM 5.

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Re: HAM 5 Alpha - You know it!![message #302921] Sat, 07 April 2012 11:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Where is the elusive and mysterious Headrock these days anyway?

I'm going to have to send him an email... I want to make some AI changes but don't want to reinvent what's already been done in HAM 5.
HR is awol (again) since January. As for the AI changes, they where made mostly by WarmSteel, but please, do send HR an email.

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Re: HAM 5 Alpha - You know it!![message #302933] Sat, 07 April 2012 14:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Where is the elusive and mysterious Headrock these days anyway?

I'm going to have to send him an email... I want to make some AI changes but don't want to reinvent what's already been done in HAM 5.
If all you got is the hotmail from his profile, I wouldn't get my hopes up. We tried that already.

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Re: HAM 5 Alpha - You know it!![message #302952] Sat, 07 April 2012 19:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I tracked down his gmail address as well, so fingers crossed Smile

EDIT: Just heard back from him Very Happy He's going to get the source code to me soon. I'll put it on the SVN once I get it.

[Updated on: Sat, 07 April 2012 20:20] by Moderator

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Re: HAM 5 Alpha - You know it!![message #302981] Sat, 07 April 2012 23:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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HAM5.5 source zip is now in my SVN branch if anyone wants to take a look before I have a chance to take a crack at it (probably not for a day or two).

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Re: HAM 5 Alpha - You know it!![message #302982] Sat, 07 April 2012 23:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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HAM5.5 source zip is now in my SVN branch if anyone wants to take a look before I have a chance to take a crack at it (probably not for a day or two).


good. do you also have the ham 5 gamedir files?

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Re: HAM 5 Alpha - You know it!![message #302985] Sat, 07 April 2012 23:46 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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I think we can just use the ones included in the first post... HR didn't mention the need for newer ones.

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