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Hachiryoku's humble weapon mods[message #304112] Tue, 01 May 2012 06:59 Go to next message
Hachiryoku

 
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I've been steadily making a few weapons.

The DR-200 (5.56mm) or DR-300 (7.62mm). Made by Daewoo (South Korea)
http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/7687/newsett.png
DR-200/300

The Wilson Combat AR (many calibers)
Recomend putting this in the P2items as the green doesn't come out right in the guns sti.
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/8494/ingamepics.png
Wilson Tactical AR

Smith and Wesson M&P-15 (many calibers)
http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/9100/swmp1522set.png
Download here;
S&W M&P-15

Lewis MG03
http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/8339/lewismg03.png
Download here;
Lewis MG03

Tesro TS-22
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/3153/tesrots22set.png
Download here;
Tesro TS-22

Hammerli 280
http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/3262/hammerli280set.png
Download here;
Hammerli 280

Enjoy.

[Updated on: Fri, 04 May 2012 10:21] by Moderator

Re: Hachiryoku's humble weapon mods[message #304281] Fri, 04 May 2012 05:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hachiryoku

 
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I've been messing with some of the items in AIMNAS. Smeagol has really been putting in a lot of work. Hopefully I only honor it.

I saw this Korth .38 Sport and liked it. I also like the idea of more .38 cal weapons. I messed around with it and made it my own.

http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/8359/korth38sportset.png

You can get it here;

Korth .38 Sport
Re: Hachiryoku's humble weapon mods[message #304305] Fri, 04 May 2012 16:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
dinglehopper

 
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You should probably ask before modifying anothers work, well when it is mod stuff like art, maps, and the like. I think you will find smeagol is nice especially when you give him proper credit. But like any human he is hurt when people take his stuff without asking. So as a rule of thumb, if the original artist is still around, ask first, if it is in a reasonable place and you get no response for a reasonable amount of time, then state you plan to go ahead. If they say no, then respect it.

Basically just think about what you would like someone else to do before using your art, and give the same affordances.

But your stuff looks great.

Dh
Re: Hachiryoku's humble weapon mods[message #304317] Fri, 04 May 2012 19:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Slax

 
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The Lewis MG looks kind of cartoony in comparison to everything else. :confused:
(Ever think of making your own full arsenal revamp mod?)

Re: Hachiryoku's humble weapon mods[message #304347] Fri, 04 May 2012 21:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hachiryoku

 
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dinglehopper

Basically just think about what you would like someone else to do before using your art, and give the same affordances.

But your stuff looks great.

Dh


Thanks DH. If someone took my stuff and messed with it I wouldn't mind. That's why I'm making it available to everyone.

Slax
The Lewis MG looks kind of cartoony in comparison to everything else. :confused:
(Ever think of making your own full arsenal revamp mod?)


I agree on the Lewis gun. I had a hard time finding the right colors that meshed with the game. I had some other revisions that looked better, but it didn't come out right in the game.

As far as making an arsenal revamp..... I'm halfway there. I've modded a lot in the game already, faces, clothes, etc. Some of it is mine and some it is from others. I've even put my own idea of balance to everything. Of course my idea of balance and another person's idea is different. I think 1.13 has done a good job of finding a happy medium for everyone. Once I get a few more things done though, I may submit my mods as a download to see what other people think.
Re: Hachiryoku's humble weapon mods[message #304353] Fri, 04 May 2012 23:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Slax

 
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I've even put my own idea of balance to everything. Of course my idea of balance and another person's idea is different.


Smile http://www.ja-galaxy-forum.com/board/images/icons/default/thumbs_up.gif

Re: Hachiryoku's humble weapon mods[message #304363] Sat, 05 May 2012 08:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hachiryoku

 
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To put "balance" into context;

I've made it so mostly everything is still useable even later in the game.

That's why I think the new skills like gunslinger are very good. Add that to the slight range increase I gave the average pistol and my merc can still run around with a 1911 all the way until the end of the game and still hold certain advantages with that weapon without getting steam rolled. Otherwise, why waist energy on pistoleers?

Is that realistic? No, but in the past, pistols became almost obsolete very quickly, which is a shame since there are so many more pistols than there used to be... with more being made all the time. It seems everybody wants their personal firearm to be included in the game and many own pistols. Now, balance being considered, my gunslinger still should not get into it with someone carrying an AR at 200 yards. They should close within tactically first.

My other major area for balance was the armor. I always thought it was funny that a cloth "armor" called "Zylon", which was also somehow associated with the US military in the game, could offer any protection from hot lead. I've served with the Marines for 12 years (I'm a Navy Corpsman) and have made several trips to the sandbox with the infantry. Rounds have literally zipped past my head and I've returned the sentiment in full. BUT..... we were never issued a fabric armor called zylon that offered any hot lead protection. Flack vests with SAPIs? Yes! Brain buckets? yes! No zylon though. End rant.

So armor; Clothes like t-shirts, zylon and swat uniforms may offer like 1-3 points of ballistic defense, which is next to nothing. But they weigh much less and will offer some camouflage and some offer slight stealth bonuses. The actual armors have been balanced to weight, meaning, the dyneema is a good armor still, but it's weight follows balistic defense point for point. So, the only mercs on my team who have a full load out of dyneema, c-18, ceramic plates and are still able to employ any gun they choose are my very strong mercs. The rest have to balance the weight of their armor with their equipment and weapon choice. That means my sniper, with a strength of 70, may choose that pair of swat pants, grey t-shirt and black beanie in order to have strength left for the Berret M98. Also, none of the armor is as strong. That means my c-18 dyneema decked out merc should still take cover along with the rest of the team.

I've done much more, but it mostly revolves around the same idea of everything keeping value all the way through the game.
Re: Hachiryoku's humble weapon mods[message #304385] Sat, 05 May 2012 15:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
H_412

 
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got to say, this sounds ridonkulously good, would definitely like to give it a shot if you release it.
Really liking the artwork as well Smile
Re: Hachiryoku's humble weapon mods[message #304444] Sun, 06 May 2012 10:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hachiryoku

 
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I should have something in a few weeks... Maybe less.
Re: Hachiryoku's humble weapon mods[message #304454] Sun, 06 May 2012 14:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Toneone

 
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Sounds interesting, ill gladly try out what you can give us.

Some tidbits though.
Quote:
I always thought it was funny that a cloth "armor" called "Zylon" could offer any protection from hot lead.

Zylon fabric
Basically it does offer protection, but degrades rapidly and was thus shifted out of service.
Not to get into a big discussion here, but fibre/cloth armors are more real&common than you might think. Though the protection class is obviously different from millitary grade vests/gear.
Ill refrain from listing all the different fibres, but a lot of them are more usefull than your run of the mill kevlar vest.
Especially bullet proof/resistant clothing has become more interesting and successfull for manufacturers.
And the US military is not known to outfit its troops with the best gear, but rather the best for a certain price. Very Happy

Quote:
in the past, pistols became almost obsolete very quickly

That depends on your style a lot.
As a main weapon, yes very much so.
But i still cary a sidearm all the way to Meduna, and it saved my bacon lots of times.
But as said, as a mainstay they become obsolete quickly.
As agunslinger you pretty much have to settle on high calibre revolvers for a long time. Thats mostly why i was bored with the gunslinger, eventhough i like the concept very much.

regards

Re: Hachiryoku's humble weapon mods[message #304476] Sun, 06 May 2012 21:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hachiryoku

 
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Hazmat


And the US military is not known to outfit its troops with the best gear, but rather the best for a certain price. Very Happy


Semi-true.

I always had great gear. No, I didn't have a Styer Aug, but my A4 and now M4 did exactly what it was supposed to do. And, although I generally like to keep things simple with iron sights, pistol grip and foregrip, I have any modern attachment available if I want it. I'm not a big fan of the M9 (Beretta 92F), but it is a good field pistol. The K-bar is crap but the M16 bayonet is a very good blade. Most carry their own personal melee weapons anyways.

I've seen SAPI plates and Kevlar helmets take hits. They work. I probably should not comment on certain things when it comes to what exactly we are doing in the field on an open forum, but I will say there's more to why we're not using all the new armors and gadgets coming out and it has less to do with funding than you think. Outfitting our direct action units as opposed to the entire military with almost anything is very doable. I can say Dragon Skin has been repeatedly tested, even by spec ops own research section. It still doesn't hold a candle to SAPIs although it has promise for certain situations, i.e. long range patrols. I would still prefer SAPIs, no matter how uncomfortable or heavy they are.

My medical gear is usually the most expensive section of the budget and it always surprises me how much the chain will spend when it comes to it. I always research my equipment and ask for specific things. A lot of that is consumables too, which means they'll be buying it over and over again. The unit is able to buy what they want for the most part. They will ask for augments to the budget from higher if they need to and I've never seen an augment request turned down.

Many of the things we use in training or with a logistics unit is cheap poop. That's where you'll hear a lot of the complaints coming from. And you'll even get some gripes when you have the best stuff..... The grass is always greener. I always complained about the weight of all my gear.

Thanks for the education on Zylon. I always wondered where the term came from. I noticed, from the link you gave, that the company who produced the body armor made from zylon went bankrupt soon after some police officers who were wearing zylon got shot.
Re: Hachiryoku's humble weapon mods[message #304549] Thu, 10 May 2012 04:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hachiryoku

 
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I've always hated the Type 85. It just looked cruddy. So, I submit a different view. I've collapse the stock and added an optional magazine release switch.

http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/6986/type85set.png

Download here;
Norinco Type 85

Now I don't feel like my merc is running around with cheap poop.

And up next is the HK USC.
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/7327/hkuscset.png
Download here
Re: Hachiryoku's humble weapon mods[message #304553] Thu, 10 May 2012 09:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
TClaymore

 
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I always thought the SWAT uniform was actually SWAT body armor. Is there any difference between the standard issue SWAT armor and military armor?

[Updated on: Thu, 10 May 2012 09:14] by Moderator

Re: Hachiryoku's humble weapon mods[message #304555] Thu, 10 May 2012 10:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hachiryoku

 
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Not the cloth uniforms. SWAT will wear body armor over that uniform. That's the same as the military.

Basically, our cammies provide camo and some are partially fire resistant. SWAT uniforms are dark for urban/night ops. No actual armor.

We will throw on flak vests, neck protectors, groin protectors, and other items on top of the uniform. That will help protect against impact, but it will not help much against bullets or even knives really. The name "flak" means they'll protect you against small particles flying through the air and heat from an explosion. That doesn't sound like much until you need to drive through an IED alley or you start to receive mortar fire. Once the the heat and the dirt hits you, you'll be glad you weren't wearing boxers and a wife beater.

Then we throw these SAPI (armor) plates in our flak vests. Now those can take some hits. Nothing is perfect of course, but some of my Marines are still alive because of those things. The kevlar helmets are also good. One Marine in particular would have been MEDEVAC'd twice with a grevious head injury if it weren't for his kevlar helmet. Fortunately for him, he only lost a little consciousness and had a headache for a while.

So, think of it like layers; clothing, flak/vests, armor.

Some uniforms are made to have plates slide right into them, but those are not used much. If you're operating for months, it's better to have a uniform underneath you can clean every now and then. Most flaks/vests can't be thrown in the washer, so the idea is to wear clothes under the armor.

The most common integral addition to uniforms in respects to armor is probably knee pads. Some trousers have slots for them and others have pads sewn in.

An uncommon flak piece is the arm guards and leg guards. Not worn very often because they wear you down too quickly. They're pretty bulky too.

DISCLAIMER; I've never actually worn SWAT gear. I'm going off of what I've seen.
Re: Hachiryoku's humble weapon mods[message #304556] Thu, 10 May 2012 10:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
wolf00

 
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type 85- im mising is variant from this type, lewis mg im prefer this variant,this type using British home defense forces http://www.williammaloney.com/Aviation/PennsylvaniaMilitaryMuseum/MachineGuns/pages/16LewisMachineGun.htm
Re: Hachiryoku's humble weapon mods[message #304559] Thu, 10 May 2012 12:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hachiryoku

 
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Are you talking about the silenced Type 85?
Re: Hachiryoku's humble weapon mods[message #304560] Thu, 10 May 2012 13:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
wolf00

 
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yes -is- integral silencer ...
Re: Hachiryoku's humble weapon mods[message #304596] Sat, 12 May 2012 04:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hachiryoku

 
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Ding! Fries are done.

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/6986/type85set.png

Download here.

And a little something else
C7CT
http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/543/c7ctset.png

Download here.

[Updated on: Sun, 13 May 2012 07:09] by Moderator

Re: Hachiryoku's humble weapon mods[message #305229] Sun, 27 May 2012 17:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hachiryoku

 
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My version of Smeagol's Korth .38 just didn't mesh right IMO. The inventory pic was too close to the Anaconda. So I made some changes to that one specifically.

http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/8359/korth38sportset.png

Get it here.
Re: Hachiryoku's humble weapon mods[message #305240] Sun, 27 May 2012 23:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hachiryoku

 
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I was thinking about doing this for a while. It was really easy as the original picture was very good. All I did was the obvious. I'm not sure who originally made the Baikal shotguns.

Baikal Sawed Off;

http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/1651/baikalmp233bsawedoffset.png

Find it here
Re: Hachiryoku's humble weapon mods[message #305627] Tue, 05 June 2012 20:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Starwalker

 
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The Baikal shotguns were done by Coolberg.


Re: Hachiryoku's humble weapon mods[message #308522] Thu, 02 August 2012 05:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hachiryoku

 
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Nice work Coolberg! Hopefully I only honored it.

I have the ability to upload my games for people to play.

Not sure where to upload though as my mediafire says the file is to big. Anybody know a place that I can use for a larger upload?
Re: Hachiryoku's humble weapon mods[message #308527] Thu, 02 August 2012 13:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Slax

 
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Shotgun + hacksaw :crossbones: (Strange how nobody's made this merge possible yet.)
May wanna make one with a shortened stock too, hm? Wink

Re: Hachiryoku's humble weapon mods[message #308606] Fri, 03 August 2012 23:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
usrbid

 
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Re: Hachiryoku's humble weapon mods[message #309020] Mon, 13 August 2012 19:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hachiryoku

 
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Not a big fan of removing stocks from shotguns. It looks cool, but you really need that stock to fire a shotgun effectively.

What does everybody use to upload their mods? My free media fire doesn't cut the mustard.
Re: Hachiryoku's humble weapon mods[message #309022] Mon, 13 August 2012 19:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gambigobilla

 
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I haven't tried it myself but guys from irc use skydrive. It seems ok.
Re: Hachiryoku's humble weapon mods[message #311011] Mon, 08 October 2012 07:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
radioactivejesus

 
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thanks for the images, Hachiryoku! Just finished modding the dr-200 and HK USC to my game, there aren't nearly enough standard rifles to choose from in regular 1.13 when I'm trying to take advantage of my soldiers hunter skill.
Re: Hachiryoku's humble weapon mods[message #311041] Tue, 09 October 2012 13:56 Go to previous message
smeagol

 
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Slax
Shotgun + hacksaw :crossbones: (Strange how nobody's made this merge possible yet.)
May wanna make one with a shortened stock too, hm? Wink


Current closed beta version of AIMNAS already includes a cut down Remington M870 and a cutdown M79.


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