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Re: AIMNAS WF2012 Part 11[message #307362] Sat, 14 July 2012 03:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sam Hotte

 
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 If i got jmich right, any file representing a map consists of very many (and even more than that in the case of bigmap) parts like this:
gridno### consists of $name_of_item_YY.sti from folder ...\tilesets\XX\
?

Presuming that was correct:
To have 2 different sorts of maps in one game (let's say: A would be Smeag's AIMNAS' bigmaps; and B would be WF-4552's smallmaps) one would need to put all tilesets used in type B maps in a another subfolder like e.g. ..\tilesets\smallmaps\XX\. And then edit every single type B map in replacing every "tilesets" by "tilesets\smallmaps" (in my pseudocode above). Right?

Question is just out of my curiosity, to get a rough idea how things would work; i do not intend to mess with it. Wink

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Re: AIMNAS WF2012 Part 11[message #307375] Sat, 14 July 2012 08:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
dinglehopper

 
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So, unless Sam is onto something there is no reasonable way to achieve this. Thanks for the conversation, I hope I did not upset or waste anyone's time.

If nothing else at least now when someone comes with accusations we can point at this exchange ans say " see, we looked into it and discovered it wasn't feasible."

Dh

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Re: AIMNAS WF2012 Part 11[message #307389] Sat, 14 July 2012 15:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sam Hotte

 
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 dinglehopper
If nothing else at least now when someone comes with accusations we can point at this exchange ans say " see, we looked into it and discovered it wasn't feasible."


That has been one of my intentions, yes.

The other thing would be:
If my assumption were right, somebody with experience in reading and (hex-)editing files on low levels could find out, how mapfiles are structured on low level and could something like hex edit this replacement of tilesets' paths.
Would be still a hell of work to do it for every single mapfile; even if that somebody would find a way to batch this.

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Re: AIMNAS WF2012 Part 11[message #307415] Sat, 14 July 2012 19:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mr_clark

 
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 First of: Even though I have only tinkered in Bigmaps so far the solution for finding 'missing' enemies looks very good. Thank you DepressivesBrot.
Second: I completely agree to Smeagol. Focusing on bigmaps will in the end also be best for the community, so don't even think you're selfish Wink.
Though I don't know what your priorities for 'bigmapping' are, the idea of first adding roads and cities sounds compelling for gameplay reasons... Though of course my coding knowledge is reaching it's limit quickly when using Mathlab so I have no idea if that would actually change anything.

On a complete different thing: How can one start the XMLEditor with the latest release? It doesn't matter which DataDirectory I set, Data-Aim or Data-Bigmaps, the Editor is always crashing with some missing files error (silhouette.xml or something other, just adding files from other Data fodlers doesn'T seem to fix it withouth breaking the install).
It's not game breaking, but I like playing with 6 IMPs and setting their starting gear individually at the beginning of the game. So a solution would be appreciated.

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Re: AIMNAS WF2012 Part 11[message #307419] Sat, 14 July 2012 20:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Agent 47

 
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 running extended rooms-v5 map editor, res 1920x1200: when I hit "I", the new fullmap comes up - which is really nice, thanx Brot - but the border on it is still the size it was before, so u have a halfsize wooden border stuck in the middle of ur overview map.

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Re: AIMNAS WF2012 Part 11[message #307420] Sat, 14 July 2012 20:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
smeagol

 
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 You're probably missing the interface file, I guess.

Wait, 1920x1200? Brot probably didn't make the file for that resolution...

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Re: AIMNAS WF2012 Part 11[message #307421] Sat, 14 July 2012 20:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Agent 47

 
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You're probably missing the interface file, I guess.

Wait, 1920x1200? Brot probably didn't make the file for that resolution...


u said to run it in 1920x1080, but that crashes for me, u gotta keep it proportional to ur screen I guess, my laptop has a 1920x1200 resolution.

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Re: AIMNAS WF2012 Part 11[message #307422] Sat, 14 July 2012 20:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DepressivesBrot

 
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In theory, it should be pretty independent for anything over 1680 now ... might be a condition somewhere. Will check later, got no time atm.

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Re: AIMNAS WF2012 Part 11[message #307423] Sat, 14 July 2012 20:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gambigobilla

 
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@Mr Clark

Get the latest SCI for the latest AIMNAS. Also all your problems are because you're not doing a clean installation. XML editor errors are there because you're mixing incompatible releases like SVN5394 UC3.60 or AIMNAS v20. If you want the new features, you should use beta versions of those mods (AIMNAS v27, UC3.72 ADCAP etc.)

[Updated on: Sat, 14 July 2012 20:17] by Moderator

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Re: AIMNAS WF2012 Part 11[message #307424] Sat, 14 July 2012 20:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Agent 47

 
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In theory, it should be pretty independent for anything over 1680 now ... might be a condition somewhere. Will check later, got no time atm.
ya no rush, it's just something I wanted to check if your aware of, I figured it was probly due to my resolution, as I overheard Brot talking about it in the IRC the other day

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Re: AIMNAS WF2012 Part 11[message #307425] Sat, 14 July 2012 20:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Agent 47

 
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Get the latest SCI for the latest AIMNAS. Also all your problems are because you're not doing a clean installation. XML editors are there because you're mixing incompatible releases like SVN5394 UC3.60 or AIMNAS v20. If you want the new features, you should use beta versions of those mods (AIMNAS v27, UC3.72 ADCAP etc.)
...ummmm what?

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Re: AIMNAS WF2012 Part 11[message #307449] Sun, 15 July 2012 11:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DepressivesBrot

 
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running extended rooms-v5 map editor, res 1920x1200: when I hit "I", the new fullmap comes up - which is really nice, thanx Brot - but the border on it is still the size it was before, so u have a halfsize wooden border stuck in the middle of ur overview map.
Fixed this issue. There was indeed one condition left over from the earlier development where I checked for "1920x1080 or 1680x1050" instead "everything from 1680x1050 on". Also ported to current version, so see if that causes issues. Same folder you got the old one from.

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Re: AIMNAS WF2012 Part 11[message #307458] Sun, 15 July 2012 14:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mr_clark

 
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@Mr Clark

Get the latest SCI for the latest AIMNAS. Also all your problems are because you're not doing a clean installation. XML editor errors are there because you're mixing incompatible releases like SVN5394 UC3.60 or AIMNAS v20. If you want the new features, you should use beta versions of those mods (AIMNAS v27, UC3.72 ADCAP etc.)


Hmm, I've been doing exactly what's been told in Brot's thread (twice) http://www.ja-galaxy-forum.com/board/ubbthreads.php/topics/305818/Installing_AIMNAS_All_you_need.html#Post305818

With the all files current as of Wednesday and Exe 5372, but allright.

Now, after checking (installing Wink ), it does seem to work with the Easter Release SCI, but then either I am doing something very wrong or Brot's installation hints are not valid for new versions of the 1.13 release, or whatever.

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Re: AIMNAS WF2012 Part 11[message #307530] Mon, 16 July 2012 12:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
smeagol

 
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 JFYI, I asked Tais to take the SCI for V27 offline.

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Re: AIMNAS WF2012 Part 11[message #307559] Mon, 16 July 2012 21:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
lockie

 
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 Ok , 92 enemies in a big map , I've already killed 20+ , all my mercs are either dead or badly injured , WTF ?

BTW , why wont regen serum work ?

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Re: AIMNAS WF2012 Part 11[message #307560] Mon, 16 July 2012 22:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
smeagol

 
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 Probably because I didn't add drug values yet.



Also, 92 enemies are quite common for certain sectors (like Drassen airport and mine for example) on higher difficulties.

You might want to keep out of towns during day time in the beginning. Those battles are really tough.

Try to either stay mobile, outrange them, attack at night or all three of those. Make use of terrain, lay out traps and ambushes, the room to do so should be there.

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Re: AIMNAS WF2012 Part 11[message #307563] Mon, 16 July 2012 22:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
lockie

 
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 This was in the outpost ? 1 small hut and slightly larger building . Tuff stuff indeed .
Layouts look really nice Smeag !

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Re: AIMNAS WF2012 Part 11[message #307564] Mon, 16 July 2012 22:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
smeagol

 
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 Which sector was that?

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Re: AIMNAS WF2012 Part 11[message #307568] Mon, 16 July 2012 23:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
lockie

 
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 Sorry Smeagol , it was actually the Sam site .... had to leave early and avoid death ! :grimreaper:

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Re: AIMNAS WF2012 Part 11[message #307737] Thu, 19 July 2012 19:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Agent 47

 
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 u know, the new item transformations bring us one step closer to.... DYNAMIC ATTACHMENT PICS!!!!! Very Happy

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Re: AIMNAS WF2012 Part 11[message #307738] Thu, 19 July 2012 19:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DepressivesBrot

 
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No, why?

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Re: AIMNAS WF2012 Part 11[message #307861] Sat, 21 July 2012 19:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Agent 47

 
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 this question is LOONNGG overdue, how the hell do u detonate RDX?

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Re: AIMNAS WF2012 Part 11[message #307862] Sat, 21 July 2012 19:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DepressivesBrot

 
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Like in Vanilla, by either mixing it with C1/TNT to get C4/HMX or as a secondary explosive by just having it lie around and setting it off with a grenade or other bombs.

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Re: AIMNAS WF2012 Part 11[message #307863] Sat, 21 July 2012 19:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Agent 47

 
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 is there any way to get stuff like springs, steel tubes etc. besides finding them on the map... with the huge number of conversions available, there definitely should be.

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Re: AIMNAS WF2012 Part 11[message #307864] Sat, 21 July 2012 19:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DepressivesBrot

 
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No, but it would be nice to have Jake or so sell them later on.

Also, would you please explain your post from 19.07.? I think you suffer some serious misconceptions there.

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Re: AIMNAS WF2012 Part 11[message #307865] Sat, 21 July 2012 19:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Agent 47

 
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 that was just me talking out of my ass, The latest post I made in the request thread reminded me that some sniper rifles' item pictures don't have scopes... so my mind went back about a year ago to when there was a thread about dynamically changing icon pictures. I know that this would require making either every last possible attachment variation a different weapon, or some extremely major codework.

ffr: if there's a smilie in my post, think twice before taking it srsly

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Re: AIMNAS WF2012 Part 11[message #307929] Mon, 23 July 2012 00:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
datakurs

 
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 Mr. Brot, is AIMNAS deleted from your SkyDrive?

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Re: AIMNAS WF2012 Part 11[message #307930] Mon, 23 July 2012 00:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DepressivesBrot

 
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It's tagged private, but that amounts to the same thing.

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Re: AIMNAS WF2012 Part 11[message #308351] Mon, 30 July 2012 02:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Boge

 
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It's tagged private, but that amounts to the same thing.


So where does one download AIMNAS then?

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Re: AIMNAS WF2012 Part 11[message #308373] Mon, 30 July 2012 13:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sam Hotte

 
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 AIMNAS is closed beta. So contact the makers (Smeagol is head-modder, dunno if DB also may "hire" testers) and "apply" as beta tester if you are willing to take over testing responsibilities (like bug reporting).

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Re: AIMNAS WF2012 Part 11[message #308410] Mon, 30 July 2012 19:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
tbird94lx

 
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 if i understand correct..those invited to private aimnas threads must have shown a williness to critique fairly..play the mod and report back..fairly..and not be a dumbass troll...all smeagol wants is intelligent discussion and co-operation(and a bit of thanks for doing this FOR FREE IN HIS OWN TIME) which some seem to not understand and demand demand demand condemn..so if you feel you've been a fair intelligent contributer..send smeagol a pm and patiently wait

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Re: AIMNAS WF2012 Part 11[message #308422] Mon, 30 July 2012 21:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Boge

 
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Huh. I've just never heard of a MOD having a closed beta. That's really weird to me. I would think the more input, the better. It might be overwhelming, but just filter it. Why not have your select testers that you have in the "closed" beta all send their input to a separate email or something while others do it normally?

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Re: AIMNAS WF2012 Part 11[message #308423] Mon, 30 July 2012 21:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sam Hotte

 
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 Just read back some weeks and you'll understand. It's mainly because there were too many not knowing/understanding/accepting that this mod is WIP and more complaining about incompleteness than giving constructive feedback.
And no, mass is not necessarily preferable to class; if useful information got lost in lots of noise, more input would not be better.
Let the modder(s) decide on their prefered signal2noise ratio ... Smile

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Re: AIMNAS WF2012 Part 11[message #308424] Mon, 30 July 2012 21:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
tais

 
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Huh. I've just never heard of a MOD having a closed beta. That's really weird to me. I would think the more input, the better. It might be overwhelming, but just filter it. Why not have your select testers that you have in the "closed" beta all send their input to a separate email or something while others do it normally?


The noise consists purely about people not understanding that for example bigmaps are under development and that because of that it's impossible to play the whole campaign, they also seem to have a pretty bad opinion about bigmaps because of that and seem to feel like they need to out all of that in the forums.
The closed beta will give the developer (smeag) a better way to put focus on what he wants to have tested and it's also pretty much the filter you are talking about, only people that are actually willing to help make aimnas better instead of complaining because of their own lack of being able to read.

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Re: AIMNAS WF2012 Part 11[message #308720] Mon, 06 August 2012 11:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sowilo

 
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Ok, I'll try it here, another time:

What is the latest version of AIMNAS COMPLETELY WORKING (!) with the latest build of v 1.13 - if there is any. Got a lot of problems with the "easter load" and also with Tais 5171-SCI. Also the map is marked with red crosses, which you can't leave ..

Little bit chaotic round here, that's a shame. Cause the AIMNAS-project is really brilliant.

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Re: AIMNAS WF2012 Part 11[message #308721] Mon, 06 August 2012 12:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
buuface

 
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v21 is the latest full version of AIMNAS

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Re: AIMNAS WF2012 Part 11[message #308722] Mon, 06 August 2012 13:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DepressivesBrot

 
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With that set of parameters? None. You can stop spamming the same question again and again now.

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Re: AIMNAS WF2012 Part 11[message #308725] Mon, 06 August 2012 14:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
lockie

 
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Also the map is marked with red crosses, which you can't leave ..



errr , yes , you can !

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Re: AIMNAS WF2012 Part 11[message #308729] Mon, 06 August 2012 17:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Stelzenlaeufer
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Hello Ladies and Gentleman, im new in the Forum and i really like AIMNAS Smile

Anyway, i formated the computer and tried to reinstall AIMNAS like explained in this Tread
http://www.ja-galaxy-forum.com/board/ubbthreads.php/topics/305818/Installing_AIMNAS_All_you_need.html#Post305818

Now it seems like the AIMNAS Skydrive Release Page is offline
https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resid=13A6926EAC52083!244] gives me an error message..

Does anyone got a link for me to get the latest or one of the latest versions? Smile

Stelzenlaeufer

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Re: AIMNAS WF2012 Part 11[message #308730] Mon, 06 August 2012 18:06 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
DepressivesBrot

 
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Hello Stelzenlaeufer, Welcome to the Pit :wave:
We have been thorough in scrubbing our various hosters, I'd be surprised if someone still has one up.

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