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Re: 1.13 Stock Data Overhaul[message #336811]
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Sun, 19 October 2014 09:08
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Thats right! No crash log only exit to desktop and mesage jagged alliance 2 has stopped working . Alo using gog version of ja2! Also tried cd version again same results! Tried to enter few other sectors works fine, only a10! Also copyed a10 map file from SDO scalin loot dir in sdo map dir of wf maps without of random lots again crash while loadin sector! Copied a10 map file from SDO wf default maps to sdo scalin loot map folder and sector loaded normaly, tried to enter rebel hideout loaded normaly , so i think problem is in a10 map file!
[Updated on: Sun, 19 October 2014 13:16] by Moderator Report message to a moderator
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Re: 1.13 Stock Data Overhaul[message #336820]
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Sun, 19 October 2014 14:20
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Messages:94
Registered:November 2012 Location: Austria |
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silversurferSimply check Items.xml and search for "Swat Vest". The "" of the item is what you are looking for.
OK did that but now i have the image of a cut of head with the properties of a treated swat vest. additionally the vest gets boosted by 5 points instead of the regular 2. Furthermore there is no description anymore.
[Updated on: Sun, 19 October 2014 14:40] by Moderator Report message to a moderator
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Re: 1.13 Stock Data Overhaul[message #336859]
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Mon, 20 October 2014 13:10
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TWJunky |
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Messages:94
Registered:November 2012 Location: Austria |
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thanks strohmann!Great community!
[Updated on: Mon, 20 October 2014 16:13] by Moderator Report message to a moderator
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Re: 1.13 Stock Data Overhaul[message #336863]
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Mon, 20 October 2014 16:54
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Messages:45
Registered:September 2014 |
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Would it be possible to buff the 7.62 NATO battle rifles slightly?
They were already a somewhat sub-optimal choice in stock NCTH and now their accuracy has been significantly lowered, their recoil is even worse while the 5.56 ARs recieved a boost they didn't really need.
Also would it be possible to decrease the influence of DEX on the CTH in the future?
I've seen similar suggestions asked before, and I know they're dismissed, but it dex being a big influence seems contrary to the original merc designs.
For example: Hitman, Grizzly or similar low dex but high mrk used to mean they're bad at "menial" assignments but good shooters, while with NCTH they're kind of crappy at both.
Ira's, Razor's, Maddog's etc. shooting (high dex, low mrk - bad shooters with a supposedly "support" role) is only slightly worse than theirs,
but they surpass them quickly because mrk is much easier to naturally raise than dex.
I don't know the exact NCTH formulas, only speaking from experience, but it looks like the MRK stat is devalued for no good reason.
[Updated on: Mon, 20 October 2014 17:06] by Moderator Report message to a moderator
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Re: 1.13 Stock Data Overhaul[message #336871]
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Mon, 20 October 2014 21:37
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Cardinal |
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Messages:45
Registered:September 2014 |
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Maybe up their accuracy slightly if anything?
They're slow firing so if you're going to use them for long range single shots you might as well be using a dedicated 7.62 DMR (which got the same damage/penetration increase),
and for typical AR ranges you're better off just sticking to a 5.56 weapon or an LMG because they fire faster and are much more controllable.
Do I have to start a new game to test the changes to the CTHConstants.ini?
Also, would changing the calculation ratios affect the enemy's CHT in a major way? I don't want to unintentionally cripple them.
[Updated on: Mon, 20 October 2014 22:11] by Moderator Report message to a moderator
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Re: 1.13 Stock Data Overhaul[message #336876]
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Tue, 21 October 2014 00:29
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TWJunky |
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Messages:94
Registered:November 2012 Location: Austria |
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how can i make all aim mercs available i have already started a game and i dont want any of them to be away. the ini editor for the sdo data doesnt seem to be doing the trick.
[Updated on: Tue, 21 October 2014 00:31] by Moderator Report message to a moderator
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Re: 1.13 Stock Data Overhaul[message #336878]
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Tue, 21 October 2014 01:12
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TWJunky |
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Messages:94
Registered:November 2012 Location: Austria |
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checked the options ini. the setting was on "all mercs at your disposal. nobody goes on any other assignment than yours" just like I set it in the ini editor. do i have to start a new game for these options to take effect?
[Updated on: Tue, 21 October 2014 01:18] by Moderator Report message to a moderator
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Re: 1.13 Stock Data Overhaul[message #336899]
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Tue, 21 October 2014 18:32
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TWJunky |
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Messages:94
Registered:November 2012 Location: Austria |
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OK, thanks Flugente. i get it. I just have to wait then...
Do you know if the AI cheats on Expert? According to the NCTH its get a 20% bonus. is this still true for the sdo?
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Re: 1.13 Stock Data Overhaul[message #336933]
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Tue, 21 October 2014 23:47
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TWJunky |
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Messages:94
Registered:November 2012 Location: Austria |
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how can i train militia in Drassen? loyalty is at 99% and one of my guys has a leadership of 47. militia training is greyed out.....didnt change any militia settings in the sdo ini
[Updated on: Tue, 21 October 2014 23:48] by Moderator Report message to a moderator
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Re: 1.13 Stock Data Overhaul[message #336994]
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Wed, 22 October 2014 21:04
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TWJunky |
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Messages:94
Registered:November 2012 Location: Austria |
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ok thanks. i changed both. i noticed some change now. its difficult to tell at first. also how do i stop enemy troops entering san mona? what ini do i have to edit?
[Updated on: Wed, 22 October 2014 21:06] by Moderator Report message to a moderator
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Re: 1.13 Stock Data Overhaul[message #337092]
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Fri, 24 October 2014 12:36
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TWJunky |
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Messages:94
Registered:November 2012 Location: Austria |
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thanks for claryfieing that sevenfm.
That takes me to another question. Where are the values that are related to shooting with a bipod?
[Updated on: Fri, 24 October 2014 12:37] by Moderator Report message to a moderator
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Re: 1.13 Stock Data Overhaul[message #337099]
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Fri, 24 October 2014 13:58
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Strohmann |
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Messages:287
Registered:August 2011 Location: Division Thought Crimes |
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CardinalWould it be possible to buff the 7.62 NATO battle rifles slightly?
They were already a somewhat sub-optimal choice in stock NCTH and now their accuracy has been significantly lowered, their recoil is even worse while the 5.56 ARs recieved a boost they didn't really need. [...] Maybe up their accuracy slightly if anything?
They're slow firing so if you're going to use them for long range single shots you might as well be using a dedicated 7.62 DMR (which got the same damage/penetration increase),
and for typical AR ranges you're better off just sticking to a 5.56 weapon or an LMG because they fire faster and are much more controllable. What 5.56mm AR boost? There only was a minor damage spread up- and downward in this caliber recently. The recoil nerf affected all guns similarly. The accuracy of the 7.62mm assault rifles were lowered to allow more room for other calibers like 6.5x38mm and enough gap to the marksman rifles (dragunov, galatz and co.) and "real" sniper rifles.
For the average shooter a dedicated 7.62 DMR isn't much better than an assault rifle. This mainly is because you need traits to overcome the base/aiming cap maluses specified in Skills_Settings.INI for class rifle type rifle/sniper rifle guns. The assault rifles typically are more flexible thanks to "better" attachments:
- stance (grippod/foregrip)
- action points (holo sight + magnifier 6x)
- day time (night vision scopes)
- close range (better laser)
TWJunkyhow can i train militia in Drassen? loyalty is at 99% and one of my guys has a leadership of 47. militia training is greyed out.....didnt change any militia settings in the sdo ini Which map submod and which sector? If it's WF 6.07, you can only train in sectors with a A.C.A building there.
Quote:the wildfire maps change from game to game. that means: sometimes you will get different looking sector maps. i guess there are 3 different map layouts. on one layout enemy troops do not respect the san mona borders. i have absolutely no idea why this is the case. ...wat? There are no alternativ sectors for whole San Mona, unless you mean a slightly different central building in C5 for WF6.07+SDO_Default_Maps and WF6.07+SDO_Scaling_Map_Loot... you can check that with the map editor if you don't believe me.
SevenfmFound strange thing:
With default SDO settings [there] is no difference between shooting prone, crouching or standing. Also there's no difference if I use bipod for sniper shots or not. [...] Tested with Leech + Svd+Pso-1 with/without bipod, also tested Fox + Vintorez+Pso-1 for similar results. Your other custom settings are likely too high, i observed aperture size differences for Leech in different stances. The Vintorez likely hit the accuracy ceiling. Nethertheless the other points raised are valid, changed the settings to:
BASE_CROUCHING_STANCE = 3.0 -> 2.5
AIM_DRAW_COST = 0.5 -> 1.0
AIM_STANDING_STANCE = 1.5 -> 2.0
AIM_CROUCHING_STANCE = 1.0 -> 1.5
AIM_PRONE_STANCE = 0.5 -> 0.75
CardinalI noticed that the folding/retractable stocks in SDO don't really do anything.
In stock 1.13 i tend to avoid them because to me the aim level/counterforce penalties outweigh the "AP to ready" bonus, but at least there was one.
There seems to be no benefit to using them in SDO. Some weapons like that Benelli shotgun can accept either type of stock but they do nothing except the ablility to fold it, which only gives penalties.
Some weapons that stock changing transforms to a type that is also available to buy, like the AKM -> AKMS actually have better all around stats in ther fixed stock form, so there's even less reason to use them. AKMS, AKS-74 and co. aren't available from bobby ray any longer. Folding/retracting stocks shrink the item size to let them fit into (more) lbe slots, combat applications aren't really needed any longer after the introduction of hip-firing at the touch of a button.
[Updated on: Fri, 24 October 2014 15:07] by Moderator Report message to a moderator
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