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How can i fix Sniperifle to hit again?[message #316770] Sat, 30 March 2013 06:58 Go to next message
Fenomen

 
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Registered:September 2009
Location: Hamburg, Germany
Im using the 4870 1.13 Version and im a little confused with the ncth Systhem. Overall it mostly seems the same to me, as soon as my Mercs get Riflelam they start to get crazy good Aim. But Sniping seems really borked, the extra aimlevels dont seem to do anything regarding hitchance. I dislike that and would like Sniperrifle to behave more like the old systhem.

I tried changing the ntch Accuracy Value(example 88 to 96) but that had no noticable effect i also doubled the aim bonus of the 10X Scope but that also doesnt seem to help.

Can someone pls tell me how to modify that Part of the Game to my liking.

Any Help is appreciated, thanks in Advance

PS: In my JA2 Folder is a Merc Editor that seem to came with the 1.13 Install, doesnt seem to work(tried to remove loner from a merc) any clue how to get it to work?

Re: How can i fix Sniperifle to hit again?[message #316771] Sat, 30 March 2013 08:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
CapnJack

 
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Registered:June 2012
It sounds like you're better off just sticking to the old chance to hit but I believe it comes down to percent aim cap as this modifies your shooter's maximum accuracy. Once you hit your aim cap, as I understand it, you will gain nothing from spending more time aiming.

Adding with a positive value to the scope will increase your shooter's maximum aiming level (although this will not necessarily allow them to reach it). This is most probably what you are looking for to allow them to aim more. This is a partial example of the tactical iron sights from AFS:


504
Iron Sights
Tactical Iron Sights
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	5
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Re: How can i fix Sniperifle to hit again?[message #316782] Sat, 30 March 2013 14:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Fenomen

 
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Registered:September 2009
Location: Hamburg, Germany
Thanks alot for the Reply. Where can i find that data you copied the code from? in the xml Editor in the NTCH Category each of those
Stats(PercentCap etc) has a blank 101 Value in it. Is there a easy Way to revert back to old cth Systhem?

Re: How can i fix Sniperifle to hit again?[message #316783] Sat, 30 March 2013 14:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Flugente

 
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Registered:April 2009
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Changing from NCTH to OCTH requires the start of a new game, unless you use a debugger, as it was decided this should not be switched ingame.


Re: How can i fix Sniperifle to hit again?[message #316786] Sat, 30 March 2013 15:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sam Hotte

 
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Registered:March 2009
Location: Middle of Germany
In stable release 4870 it's still possible to switch between NCTH and OCTH in running game in the preferences.
Re: How can i fix Sniperifle to hit again?[message #316789] Sat, 30 March 2013 15:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Fenomen

 
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Registered:September 2009
Location: Hamburg, Germany
Thanks again. i would rather change the way Sniping works in ncth systhem then revert to the old. Guess theres a Reason the new Systhem was invented so i would like to play with it.

So where do i find those data entrys CapnJack posted?

Anyone know something why the Merc Profile Editor in the Ja2 Folder doesnt seem to work?
Re: How can i fix Sniperifle to hit again?[message #316790] Sat, 30 March 2013 16:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sam Hotte

 
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1. it's from items.xml. Use any good text editor to mess around with it, if you prefer. If xml editor shows 101 it means there hasn't been set something special yet. Set the values that were recommended and try if you like it then ...

2. Profile editor works for me. So your question seems impossible to answer to me ... Razz
What exactly is your issue with it?
Re: How can i fix Sniperifle to hit again?[message #316791] Sat, 30 March 2013 16:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Fenomen

 
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Location: Hamburg, Germany
Thanks again, so i cant read the Base Values without an extra Editor?

When im using the Profile Editor to change for Example Dannys Loner Status it doesnt have an Effect in the Game. I tried changing the EditorInit to read Data-AR first(im playing Arulco Revisited. Anything else i need to do before the Editor changed take effect?(i saved ofc^)


PS: What exactly is the negative Effect of Loner Trait? Do they get no morale from group member Action or get no Morale at all when in a Group?
Re: How can i fix Sniperifle to hit again?[message #316792] Sat, 30 March 2013 16:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DepressivesBrot

 
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Did you start a new campaign?


Re: How can i fix Sniperifle to hit again?[message #316793] Sat, 30 March 2013 17:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Fenomen

 
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Ok got the Editor to work. Thanks for all the Replys.

Anyone else dislike how Sniper behave with the ncth? Do most Poeple use the old Systhem?


[Updated on: Sat, 30 March 2013 17:17] by Moderator

Re: How can i fix Sniperifle to hit again?[message #316794] Sat, 30 March 2013 17:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sam Hotte

 
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Registered:March 2009
Location: Middle of Germany
You can read the xmls with any editor, even windows' notepad, wordpad, internet explorer or whatever. And you can read them with JA2-1.13's xml editor of course.
But I have no experience with NCTH and its settings, so better do some research here about this.

Fenomen
When im using the Profile Editor to change for Example Dannys Loner Status it doesnt have an Effect in the Game. I tried changing the EditorInit to read Data-AR first(im playing Arulco Revisited. Anything else i need to do before the Editor changed take effect?(i saved ofc^)

Starting a new campaign.

Fenomen
PS: What exactly is the negative Effect of Loner Trait? Do they get no morale from group member Action or get no Morale at all when in a Group?

If about new trait system: the latter (getting no morale gain from other's action is 'assertive')
Pro tip: If you start a new game and start creating an IMP char, there are detailed tool tips about the effects of traits and skills and everything.

Edit: IIRC AR works with plain 1.13's chars, so data-1.13 would be the folder to work with. And of course mercprofiles.xml is the file to edit/copy&paste ... Smile

[Updated on: Sat, 30 March 2013 17:14] by Moderator

Re: How can i fix Sniperifle to hit again?[message #316796] Sat, 30 March 2013 17:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Fenomen

 
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Danke vielmals. Sorry bin was Mods angeht ein ziemlicher Newb.
Re: How can i fix Sniperifle to hit again?[message #316800] Sat, 30 March 2013 17:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DepressivesBrot

 
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Sam_Hotte
Edit: IIRC AR works with plain 1.13's chars, so data-1.13 would be the folder to work with. And of course mercprofiles.xml is the file to edit/copy&paste ... Smile
It doesn't. Character locations are in that file, some differ in AR.

Also, the merc editor is very intolerant when it comes to missing files (where the game falls back on the next folder to avoid redundancy and reduce storage requirements) ... just use a text editor.


Re: How can i fix Sniperifle to hit again?[message #316801] Sat, 30 March 2013 17:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sam Hotte

 
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Ah true, forgot about the changed locations of some RPCs/NPCs in AR ...

Too many mods, too many versions ... :headbanger: :silly:
Re: How can i fix Sniperifle to hit again?[message #316821] Sat, 30 March 2013 22:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Fenomen

 
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I know about the Tooltips but "Gains no Morale in a Group" seems a little harsh. So to be clear they still get Morale from their own Action but not from other Groupmember?

[Updated on: Sat, 30 March 2013 22:17] by Moderator

Re: How can i fix Sniperifle to hit again?[message #316822] Sat, 30 March 2013 23:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sam Hotte

 
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Fenomen
So to be clear they still get Morale from their own Action but not from other Groupmember?

No, this is precise description of personality trait 'assertive'; this is NOT the way loner works AFAIK.
Here are the details:
http://www.ja-galaxy-forum.com/board/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=241482&page=1#Post241482
Re: How can i fix Sniperifle to hit again?[message #316825] Sat, 30 March 2013 23:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Thor

 
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Can't we update the settings for NCTH together and adjust it for Ja V1.13? I have the impression that most people play with the old system and gave up on the new one. Is that just an impression?

How about better default settings?

[Updated on: Sat, 30 March 2013 23:20] by Moderator

Re: How can i fix Sniperifle to hit again?[message #316826] Sat, 30 March 2013 23:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sam Hotte

 
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There's something like that already going on:
http://www.ja-galaxy-forum.com/board/ubbthreads.php/topics/314623/1_13_Stock_Data_Overhaul.html
Re: How can i fix Sniperifle to hit again?[message #316829] Sun, 31 March 2013 00:06 Go to previous message
Thor

 
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Uhu, didn't know that many changes were necessary - thanks. I noticed itm but maybe it's time to try it out now Wink
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