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KJJ 11 minutes ago

@Alex If you're talking about Bear's Pit, it's important to remember that their priorities are very different from that of (us) fans. We want a decent JA2 experience. They want a totally accessible and open modding platform - Shanga himself said he barely cared about the game itself, just the ability to tweak it. Well it's likely there'll be moddability but I doubt that even if FC raised a million the game would be moddable to the extent the Bear Pit guys want. So, well... they have provided some really good ideas but when they get all out negative and rant about this feature or that feature I tune them out a bit personally

A license they didn't buy, just misteriously landed on their lap (why them? why not 1.13 crew? why not Ian Currie? nobody will know).

Shanga if I suggested your nick for the enemy name pool would you be flattered or upset? ^^

Only if they portray me as the summer camp raving murderer who kills innocent schoolgirls lined at FC lemonade stand. With a chainsaw. To steal the $5 their mommies and daddies gave them to buy soda and support the "Save the Hamsters Fund".

I wouldn't take anything else.

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Shanga if I suggested your nick for the enemy name pool would you be flattered or upset? ^^

Only if they portray me as the summer camp raving murderer who kills innocent schoolgirls lined at FC lemonade stand. With a chainsaw. To steal the $5 their mommies and daddies gave them to buy soda and support the "Save the Hamsters Fund".

I wouldn't take anything else.

2) Yes I've read that the old developers of the originals and modders can't publicly commit to working on the title. But they could publicly endorse your project? You could officially instate them as project consultants (not employees)? You should have got them in before because your track record is so thin. There's still time to get them in now.

@JAFTeam - What's taking so long to post that Update 12?

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KJJ 11 minutes ago

@Alex If you're talking about Bear's Pit, it's important to remember that their priorities are very different from that of (us) fans. We want a decent JA2 experience. They want a totally accessible and open modding platform - Shanga himself said he barely cared about the game itself, just the ability to tweak it. Well it's likely there'll be moddability but I doubt that even if FC raised a million the game would be moddable to the extent the Bear Pit guys want. So, well... they have provided some really good ideas but when they get all out negative and rant about this feature or that feature I tune them out a bit personally

I'm not trying to stir up shit, but how can anyone say with a straight face that we here in Bear's Pit are not Jagged Alliance fans? :crazy:

Shanga: It won't be that short. This might be communication problem in the end. Sure, we're talking about the base-game for 350k. But we're talking about a game which will prbly take 20 hours or even more maybe, depending on your playstyle. Something around that. Plus the option to avoid the main story and just farm the country for more loot. Think most people got that wrong. But we'll take care of that in an update regarding "what is a base game for us" stuff I think.

Don't nit-pick on words, I'd say. It's abvious to me that he wants to differentiate between "player only" types of Fans and the modders.

And TBH, what's described in the quote you gave, Hazapuza, there is some truth, IMO.

Great news Shanga. I hope FC explain to the whole world just what an amazing, dedicated and talented modding community this game has and how great it is to have them on board. They can take full credit for the fact there are still people playing JA2 today and how many games can claim that kind of longevity. Baldur's Gate 2 had some amazing modders and mods, but JA2's took the game to new levels beyond content. It means a better game, a longer shelf-life, and a world of possibility. The rest of us already know how awesome this is, but this should be an important new selling point for those unfamiliar with the series.

Edit: Just a thought Shanga, maybe you can help them write the talking points for the "We got The Bear's Pit approval" update. 20 full expansions, over a decade worth of hardcore support keeping the franchise running singlehandedly, virtually every gun on this planet added, updated the combat mechanics to create incredible amounts of strategic depth, blah blah. You know this stuff better than us The target audience is people who don't really know the JA franchise

So the new meme is the bear, right? Hope we'll get far enough to announce the next sector.