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Sergeant Major

Re: Jagged Alliance: Flashback now on Kickstarter[message #319580]

Tue, 14 May 2013 08:27

Messages:33
Registered:May 2013

well i think a lot of us would have given them the money if we had it. Sadly we dont Sad

But we give our best to make this happen.

Private 1st Class

Re: Jagged Alliance: Flashback now on Kickstarter[message #319581]

Tue, 14 May 2013 09:07

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Registered:January 2000
Location: Danubia

Vortexdr

I am glad to confirm this IS the real Ian Currie. I'll think of an interview but feel free to PM me your ideas, i'll integrate those too.

Captain

Re: Jagged Alliance: Flashback now on Kickstarter[message #319584]

Tue, 14 May 2013 09:21

Messages:33
Registered:May 2013

I am so glad i had the idea to ask Smile

Private 1st Class

Re: Jagged Alliance: Flashback now on Kickstarter[message #319585]

Tue, 14 May 2013 09:23

Messages:3482
Registered:January 2000
Location: Danubia

I've started a topic to gather up community questions for the interview here:
http://www.ja-galaxy-forum.com/board/ubbthreads.php/topics/319582.html#Post319582

Captain

Re: Jagged Alliance: Flashback now on Kickstarter[message #319586]

Tue, 14 May 2013 09:33

Messages:33
Registered:May 2013

wow this is epic Very Happy

Private 1st Class

Re: Jagged Alliance: Flashback now on Kickstarter[message #319589]

Tue, 14 May 2013 10:23

Oilystool

Messages:25
Registered:April 2013
Location: Copenhagen

Morning Bear pit, wanted to send a little more art your way, the Cutie Cuddle Bear special edition M-16 assault rifle! Smile

When we do JA Flashback, one of the art standards we will have for the team is a specific was to set up our photoshop files in a way that they can be modified quickly for texture variations. So last night i had a free time and made this in about 20 minutes for fun.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7286/8736798103_b8420edba2_z.jpg

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Private 1st Class

Re: Jagged Alliance: Flashback now on Kickstarter[message #319590]

Tue, 14 May 2013 10:31

Messages:147
Registered:April 2010

Javier

Morning Bear pit, wanted to send a little more art your way, the Cutie Cuddle Bear special edition M-16 assault rifle!

When we do JA Flashback, one of the art standards we will have for the team is a specific was to set up our photoshop files in a way that they can be modified quickly for texture variations. So last night i had a free time and made this in about 20 minutes for fun.

and add Shanga as unique bear hunter that can be hired Razz

this gun is his Nails jacket Wink

(and he could have his own tutu (pink of course) Razz

Sergeant

Re: Jagged Alliance: Flashback now on Kickstarter[message #319591]

Tue, 14 May 2013 11:00

Messages:3482
Registered:January 2000
Location: Danubia

ROFLMAO!

Just... epic. Olaf the bearded female merc would love one of these. Matches his/her pink underwear.

Captain

Re: Jagged Alliance: Flashback now on Kickstarter[message #319593]

Tue, 14 May 2013 11:02

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Registered:January 2000
Location: Danubia

derek

and add Shanga as unique bear hunter that can be hired
this gun is his Nails jacket
(and he could have his own tutu (pink of course)

Nope. Shanga is the raving lunatic lurking in the woods near FC lemon stand, remember? And he's coming for you little girls with his hedgetrimmer. Mhwahaha.

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Captain

Re: Jagged Alliance: Flashback now on Kickstarter[message #319594]

Tue, 14 May 2013 11:15

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Registered:April 2010

and add little red ridinghood (like some undercover bounty hunter) Razz

what's so bad about lemon stand? we have flyers now for street lamps and bus stops... when you last saw that for some pc game?!

Sergeant

Re: Jagged Alliance: Flashback now on Kickstarter[message #319596]

Tue, 14 May 2013 11:26

Messages:3482
Registered:January 2000
Location: Danubia

Javier

When we do JA Flashback, one of the art standards we will have for the team is a specific was to set up our photoshop files in a way that they can be modified quickly for texture variations.

That's such good news it deserves a much bigger font. Smile

)

Captain

Re: Jagged Alliance: Flashback now on Kickstarter[message #319598]

Tue, 14 May 2013 11:50

Peal

Messages:259
Registered:August 2007
Location: Germany

Shanga

Olaf the bearded female merc would love one of these. Matches his/her pink underwear.

there you go, I spilled all my coffee Very Happy

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Master Sergeant

Re: Jagged Alliance: Flashback now on Kickstarter[message #319614]

Tue, 14 May 2013 13:16

gdalf

Messages:89
Registered:May 2013

Haha that gun is awesome. Although it won't be complete till we can tie pink bowties or dead hamsters around it...

Corporal 1st Class

Re: Jagged Alliance: Flashback now on Kickstarter[message #319636]

Tue, 14 May 2013 15:46

Sam Hotte

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Registered:March 2009
Location: Middle of Germany

C'mon folks, this gun is surely for the "new" Ivan ... Razz

Sergeant Major

Re: Jagged Alliance: Flashback now on Kickstarter[message #319640]

Tue, 14 May 2013 16:07

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Registered:January 2000
Location: Danubia

Sam_Hotte

C'mon folks, this gun is surely for the "new" Ivan ...

Apparently Javier likes me so much he thinks I am "Ivan"... check out the Update 17...talk about spilling coffee when reading lol.

Captain

Re: Jagged Alliance: Flashback now on Kickstarter[message #319642]

Tue, 14 May 2013 16:20

Messages:33
Registered:May 2013

You are Cipri "Dracul" Shanga the Terror Bear

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Private 1st Class

Re: Jagged Alliance: Flashback now on Kickstarter[message #319644]

Tue, 14 May 2013 16:45

Oilystool

Messages:25
Registered:April 2013
Location: Copenhagen

Shanga

Sam_Hotte
C'mon folks, this gun is surely for the "new" Ivan ...

Apparently Javier likes me so much he thinks I am "Ivan"... check out the Update 17...talk about spilling coffee when reading lol.

If Ivan is who you are,then Ivan you shall be. Whenever anyone calls you "Ivan" Wear it like armor! Don't let anyone use it to hurt you!

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Private 1st Class

Re: Jagged Alliance: Flashback now on Kickstarter[message #319646]

Tue, 14 May 2013 16:53

lockie

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Registered:February 2006
Location: Scotland

That's our Shanga , a big cuddly care-bear ..... :happybear:

Going to start a psy-precog thread , whats in the next update ?..muwahahahah

(new) a sector , hard to get to , but well worth the trip for bearpitters ...... did someone say commando in a kilt ?

(new) a sector where an evil poisonous insect awaits to slay you with his stinger ... did someone say Scorpion ?

(new)another sector where two enemies forever battle it out with hurtful words and such ... did someone say loggi and Gorro ?

Very Happy

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Captain

Re: Jagged Alliance: Flashback now on Kickstarter[message #319649]

Tue, 14 May 2013 17:26

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Registered:January 2000
Location: Danubia

lockie

.... did someone say commando in a kilt ?

There goes my second cup of coffee in my lap ROFLMAO...

Quote:

If Ivan is who you are,then Ivan you shall be. Whenever anyone calls you "Ivan" Wear it like armor! Don't let anyone use it to hurt you!

LMAO, but have you ever considered what the Russians will do to you when they hear that you took their fav merc and gave it away to BP?

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Captain

Re: Jagged Alliance: Flashback now on Kickstarter[message #319655]

Tue, 14 May 2013 18:02

batanen

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Registered:May 2013

Peal

@JAFTeam Is the diorama work in progress or is this final? I kinda like the untextured parts, reminds me of Alice in Wonderland, I mean I'm open for that. Jagged Alliance and Alice in wonderland art style :moosegrin:

For me the graphics say *colorful candy RPG* (in this case would prefer a little more realistic art style). I see some similarities here:

http://www.jaggedallianceflashback.com/wp-content/uploads/ScreenShotDiorama13May.png

http://media.pcgamer.com/files/2012/09/Dota-2-review-2.jpg

Private 1st Class

Re: Jagged Alliance: Flashback now on Kickstarter[message #319657]

Tue, 14 May 2013 18:41

Vortexdr

Messages:57
Registered:April 2013

DOTA 2.... they do look very much alike. I have to second batanen id prefer a more realistic style but ill wait for the final one to judge Razz

Corporal

Re: Jagged Alliance: Flashback now on Kickstarter[message #319659]

Tue, 14 May 2013 18:53

Sam Hotte

Messages:1966
Registered:March 2009
Location: Middle of Germany

+1. Currently it's too much cartoonish, fantasy RPG, unrealistic (or whatever you may call it) for my liking as well.
(But OC we'll have to judge the final thing again, when a look is done for "reference")

Sergeant Major

Re: Jagged Alliance: Flashback now on Kickstarter[message #319664]

Tue, 14 May 2013 20:50

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Registered:January 2000
Location: Danubia

Can't really judge such finer aspects from that work scene with no lights and half the skins not even implemented.

Captain

Re: Jagged Alliance: Flashback now on Kickstarter[message #319695]

Wed, 15 May 2013 01:50

Peal

Messages:259
Registered:August 2007
Location: Germany

Too early to judge, but yes there is dangerously high saturation already.

Master Sergeant

Re: Jagged Alliance: Flashback now on Kickstarter[message #319696]

Wed, 15 May 2013 02:03

Messages:3482
Registered:January 2000
Location: Danubia

Now that you mention it and after watching the latest screens from the diorama, you might be right about saturation. One thing about JA2 modding was always the way the game tones down anything you throw at it, weapons in particular. Going high saturation flashy thingie might turn off a lot of people.

That being said, here's what Unity looks like in action:

http://unity3d.com/gallery/demos/live-demos

Quite a few of the demos work on browser.

Captain

Re: Jagged Alliance: Flashback now on Kickstarter[message #319701]

Wed, 15 May 2013 02:23

Peal

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Registered:August 2007
Location: Germany

Yeah, maybe more like this:

http://unity3d.com/unity/quality/i_terrains/terrain-3.jpg

found on the unity terrain site

Look on the brown in the sun and compare it to the diorama.
Also I like the amount of details here. I have nothing against the painted texture style, but high saturation is a no go, Warcraft days are gone. Batman and Superman remakes are having a dark grading nowadays Wink

Thanks for the Unity link!

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Master Sergeant

Re: Jagged Alliance: Flashback now on Kickstarter[message #319706]

Wed, 15 May 2013 05:14

Slax

Messages:1411
Registered:July 2006
Location: People riding polar bears...

The cartoony stuff did work for Silent Storm... sort of. Optional visual styles would of course be a plus. Think Sin City (only with more gray, to work with the whole Soviet thing) and alike. Filters, shaders.

Peal

This, to me, looks like the next step in 7.62 evolution. Not sure how it would do as a JA setting but I'm getting good vibes.
Don't know how you developers handle this stuff but SweetFX works well for me whenever I'm trying to visually tune the games I play. Could give some ideas.

lockie

did someone say commando in a kilt ?

You know what that made me think of?

KILLER KILT!

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Sergeant Major

Re: Jagged Alliance: Flashback now on Kickstarter[message #319709]

Wed, 15 May 2013 09:43

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Registered:April 2010

Hired Guns

Platoon

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-H9jinwaWoXM/T7Rxsd-SAvI/AAAAAAAABcE/oK56mt-VcD4/s1600/2.jpg

Sergeant

Re: Jagged Alliance: Flashback now on Kickstarter[message #319710]

Wed, 15 May 2013 10:13

EXile 150 Abyss

Messages:137
Registered:September 2009

Peal

I have nothing against the painted texture style, but high saturation is a no go, Warcraft days are gone.

Agreed on the saturation. Otherwise sniper rifles will become useless... Shooting an enemy from one side of the map while you're prone on the other is one of the great joys later on in 1.13. Well to me at least. XD

Sergeant

Re: Jagged Alliance: Flashback now on Kickstarter[message #319712]

Wed, 15 May 2013 12:01

Messages:3482
Registered:January 2000
Location: Danubia

Out of the latest 3, i like the 1st best (that screenshot from unity). It's the perfect combo between rich colors and light that don't yell at me. In Hired Guns the whole thing is oversaturated. And in Platoon is too subdued and dull.

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Captain

Re: Jagged Alliance: Flashback now on Kickstarter[message #319714]

Wed, 15 May 2013 12:27

Messages:147
Registered:April 2010

Well, Hired Guns and Platoon are old games...

This screenshot of Hired Guns a bit oversaturated, didn't look on my pC that much.

Unity pic is great but... the founds and time and effort that FC will need for that...
I wouldn't mind Hired Guns with a bit "potoshoping" to have more realictic colors.

If it would be possible - Just Cause 2 then (for me)

http://www.cheapxbox360games.info/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/cheap-pc-games-just-cause-2.jpg

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Sergeant

Re: Jagged Alliance: Flashback now on Kickstarter[message #319716]

Wed, 15 May 2013 12:39

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Registered:January 2000
Location: Danubia

derek

If it would be possible - Just Cause 2 then (for me)

I think this is what "too realistic" means when FC talk about it. Plus there's a bad mix between background (realistic) and foreground (cartoonish).

Captain

Re: Jagged Alliance: Flashback now on Kickstarter[message #319721]

Wed, 15 May 2013 13:22

Kaerar

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Registered:January 2003
Location: Australia :D

Actually a stylised version of the Unity one would be great. Too realistic and you end up in brown shooter territory. Too cartoony and you have Hired Guns. A more hand drawn look to the Unity one would look epic to me Smile

Lieutenant

Re: Jagged Alliance: Flashback now on Kickstarter[message #319723]

Wed, 15 May 2013 13:30

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Registered:January 2000
Location: Danubia

Slax

lockie
did someone say commando in a kilt ?

You know what that made me think of?
KILLER KILT!

There you go, lockie, let me help you with a phrase to win the "one liner contest" too:

Enemy sees Lockie : "is that a pink gun you're hiding under there or you're just happy to see me?"

mwahaha

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