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Re: Jagged Alliance: Flashback now on Kickstarter[message #319954] Fri, 17 May 2013 18:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
whoami

 
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Meanwhile, in a [color:#FF6666]galaxy[/color] country far, far away ... Surprised

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Re: Jagged Alliance: Flashback now on Kickstarter[message #319958] Fri, 17 May 2013 18:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Vortexdr

 
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For anyone wanting to help out, we could use some reddit upvotes:

http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/1eiopv/enhance_jagged_alliance_flashback_diorama

Needs more Reddit upvotes (registering takes like 5 seconds and this can get us good exposure)

Upvote arrow located here:
http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/8996/captureql.PNG
Re: Jagged Alliance: Flashback now on Kickstarter[message #319970] Fri, 17 May 2013 21:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
CaRNi4

 
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I made a short video of the diorama.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3PXGPVEzdE[/video]

You can also upvote it on Reddit here Wink
http://www.reddit.com/r/JaggedAlliance/comments/1ej5wl/jagged_alliance_flashback_diorama_video_1200p/
Re: Jagged Alliance: Flashback now on Kickstarter[message #320020] Sat, 18 May 2013 14:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mauser

 
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JAFTeam

However. We still believe in the project. And we will make it happen. We won't let it fail, even if that means someone must take a credit on a house or something Very Happy


Well, it is determination and readiness for even personal sacrifices like this, which convinces me that you guys are gonna deliver no matter what, unless higher powers conspire against you.

Because of that, and because you actually managed to get guys like Ian Currie involved and endorsing you, that you now have finally won my pledge.

50 Bucks are en route per PayPal (for the "It's Time to Reload Tier") and i will use this weekend to delve into the obscure world of imageboards to get you some exposure there and hopefully help to reach the goal.

And for that, i want the special Bear

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Re: Jagged Alliance: Flashback now on Kickstarter[message #320114] Mon, 20 May 2013 17:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
EXile 150 Abyss

 
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100K to go... in 3 days... No pressure.... :wb:
Re: Jagged Alliance: Flashback now on Kickstarter[message #320117] Mon, 20 May 2013 18:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sam Hotte

 
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Registered:March 2009
Location: Middle of Germany
Happy bearsday, Shanga 'kick-ass-starter' Smile
Re: Jagged Alliance: Flashback now on Kickstarter[message #320123] Mon, 20 May 2013 19:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Arulcish_Lion

 
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@Shanga http://forum.ja2.su/YaBBImages/addsmiles/birthday.gif http://forum.ja2.su/YaBBImages/addsmiles/beer.gif http://forum.ja2.su/YaBBImages/addsmiles/birthday.gif
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Re: Jagged Alliance: Flashback now on Kickstarter[message #320128] Mon, 20 May 2013 20:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Shanga

 
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Embarrassed :bow:


Re: Jagged Alliance: Flashback now on Kickstarter[message #320129] Mon, 20 May 2013 20:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Shanga

 
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Registered:January 2000
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If you planned to bring flowers and presents, save your money and pledge for JA:F lol.

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Re: Jagged Alliance: Flashback now on Kickstarter[message #320130] Mon, 20 May 2013 20:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
EXile 150 Abyss

 
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Happy birthday! Oh, glorious leader. Razz
Re: Jagged Alliance: Flashback now on Kickstarter[message #320131] Mon, 20 May 2013 21:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
gdalf

 
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Registered:May 2013
Someone buy Shanga an oil baron tier on KS for his birthday present Very Happy
Re: Jagged Alliance: Flashback now on Kickstarter[message #320142] Tue, 21 May 2013 03:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Skott Karlsson

 
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Registered:May 2001
Location: Oldsmar, FL. USA
70 hours and $100k to go. Its going to be close if they make it. They need some serious money being pledged very soon.
Re: Jagged Alliance: Flashback now on Kickstarter[message #320144] Tue, 21 May 2013 08:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kaerar

 
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Registered:January 2003
Location: Australia :D
Now only 83K to go and 64 hrs, this is posible guys Wink

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Re: Jagged Alliance: Flashback now on Kickstarter[message #320147] Tue, 21 May 2013 11:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Shanga

 
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Registered:January 2000
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If you want to help and get more people to the KS page, I've prepared a small poster on our FB page for that. I wanted to point out the new bonus everyone $35 and up gets - the bling IMP gun. Something which could be easily missed due to being merely a footnote in the update from yesterday.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/935736_287992668002867_1994393475_n.jpg


Link to FB announcement here:
http://on.fb.me/12IBB2V

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Re: Jagged Alliance: Flashback now on Kickstarter[message #320148] Tue, 21 May 2013 12:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Oilystool

 
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Registered:April 2013
Location: Copenhagen
Good morning Bear Pit and a belated Happy Birthday to Shanga!

Its the final few hours and i hope with a proper push we can make the goal and beyond. I really hope we get to make this game.,the more i think about how fun this game can actually be the more excited i am at being able to make it.

But First

@Mauser, completely agree, i think this game needs to be closer on scope to realistic and less cartoony as you pointed out. In the end a more stylized but realistic art style is the way to go because it fits within the Jagged Alliance spirit and its just a faster art style is is easier to produce as well. It wont be just Jesper and myself making the art,and it needs to be a style that is easy to master by every artist who works on it.


But this morning in particular i want to give some meat to the modders, since i am an artist it will be art related off course Wink

One of the challenges we face with whatever budget we have to make JAFlashback is what can we make with the time and money we get.If you ever dabbled with 3d graphics you know its a time intensive affair. So to do this we need to have an art pipeline that is efficient and reduces wasted time.

so to show you how we will make 3d models and to give you an idea about ,what you will be working with if you Mod the game,here is the breakdown of the RPG7.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7289/8743506941_24c352874d_c.jpg


Personally i hope we can model every 3d model in game,some people have recommended that we buy model packs but i really hope we don't have to . The reason being is that if we make it all in house,it means every 3d model in game can be created in a way that allows for reuse of artwork and can be set up in a way that is easy to edit and change if need be if the situation requires.So if we want to make a dirtier and worn down version of a weapon,we can do it in a matter of minutes.So a weapon bought online may not give that sort of edit ability.

So here is the High polygon version of the RPG7 that is used to "bake" light information onto the low poly in game version,which is the basis of all textures. It can also be used to generate normal maps if needed.


http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5450/8764696380_24d2fa8c29_z.jpg

Every detail in this model is actually made separately,if you look closely you can see some of the physical details in this model were modeled separately. The reason for this is,when we bake the light or normal details into an image file,every part of an object has the potential for quick editing by any artist and when its in photoshop,texture variations can be made in a matter of minutes.

So after we bake our light maps and potentially normals we will apply different colors to each individual part of the model....

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2817/8764286710_4a7fedcfb6_z.jpg

After this we bake something we call a selection map,which within photoshop looks like this...
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2875/8764343094_96e0659a75.jpg

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3758/8765079628_400486cdb1.jpg


And within photoshop there is a way you can make a selection based on a color, so lets say you want to make an RPG7 with a gold plated round,you can just select the colors that make up the rounds parts, on the UV map,go to the layer with the colors,and quickly change it from green to gold. Resave as a new texture and Viola! Now you have a pimping new Gold Plated RPG. So if you make your own versions of weapons ans characters,it will be very easy for you to change the color,surface and look of every 3d model.

Every artist who works on this game will work in this exact way so if we need to change or work on another artists textures or 3d models, it doesnt take them ages to make a new asset of alter it,just minutes.

For you modders,i hope it will be a uniform and easy system to made any of the existing 3d work to your liking and need.

And lastly, i leave you with something id like to call, the "BeaRPG7".......fair enough it you think it also looks like a weasel Wink

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7293/8743518145_2dfb3e976f_c.jpg



Thanks alot for all the community's support and fingers crossed...

[Updated on: Tue, 21 May 2013 12:19] by Moderator

Re: Jagged Alliance: Flashback now on Kickstarter[message #320150] Tue, 21 May 2013 12:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Shanga

 
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Despite that looking like a hamster that's about to be rocket propelled, it's quite nice modding wise.

Smile)


Re: Jagged Alliance: Flashback now on Kickstarter[message #320152] Tue, 21 May 2013 12:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Oilystool

 
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Registered:April 2013
Location: Copenhagen
Shanga
Despite that looking like a hamster that's about to be rocket propelled, it's quite nice modding wise.

Smile)



Fuck,i didnt think about making it a Hamster,that shape fits better for the round.
Re: Jagged Alliance: Flashback now on Kickstarter[message #320155] Tue, 21 May 2013 12:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
sirlach

 
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Registered:June 2010
Location: Sydney, Australia
Another entry in JA Lore - The RPH - Rocket Propelled Hamster!
Re: Jagged Alliance: Flashback now on Kickstarter[message #320156] Tue, 21 May 2013 12:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Oilystool

 
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Registered:April 2013
Location: Copenhagen
Guys,ive made this attention grabbing Wallpaper for FB,feel free to use it to try to bring attention to the kickstarter.



http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8413/8765767504_e21d9ab5df_o.jpg



Ill make a new one for 2 days,1 day.

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Re: Jagged Alliance: Flashback now on Kickstarter[message #320157] Tue, 21 May 2013 13:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Shanga

 
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Registered:January 2000
Location: Danubia
Done.

https://www.facebook.com/bearspit


Re: Jagged Alliance: Flashback now on Kickstarter[message #320160] Tue, 21 May 2013 14:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
grim

 
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Registered:July 2006
Location: France
Thank you for the input Javier. I appreciate the time and effort you put on explaining this here, and the care for modding.
Re: Jagged Alliance: Flashback now on Kickstarter[message #320165] Tue, 21 May 2013 17:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
gdalf

 
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Registered:May 2013
Ditto for me, thanks for that really cool update Javier. Really enjoying the work you guys are putting into it.
Re: Jagged Alliance: Flashback now on Kickstarter[message #320186] Wed, 22 May 2013 03:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mauser

 
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@ Javier: Glad we agree on the visual style. I trust you will do your very best, knowing that if you let the community down, someone will probably start collecting money to hire some grim mercenaries to teach you a definitive lesson. Wink

Btw. love that BeaRPG, should become an easteregg or something in the game. Maybe a good loot item to find in the Bear Pit sector?

Well now, less than 48 hours to go and it

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Re: Jagged Alliance: Flashback now on Kickstarter[message #320189] Wed, 22 May 2013 10:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Oilystool

 
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Registered:April 2013
Location: Copenhagen
Morning guys, as promised

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Re: Jagged Alliance: Flashback now on Kickstarter[message #320220] Wed, 22 May 2013 19:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kaerar

 
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Registered:January 2003
Location: Australia :D
29hrs to go, only 41K left Wink

Come guys get hatching those hamsters chicks Very Happy

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Re: Jagged Alliance: Flashback now on Kickstarter[message #320225] Wed, 22 May 2013 20:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
sidew

 
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Registered:June 2012
I've put $100 on the pot Smile

Re: Jagged Alliance: Flashback now on Kickstarter[message #320227] Wed, 22 May 2013 20:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
JAFTeam

 
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Registered:April 2013
Thanks for that!
Re: Jagged Alliance: Flashback now on Kickstarter[message #320243] Wed, 22 May 2013 22:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
whoami

 
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Registered:May 2009
Location: Russia, Uljanovsk
Perhaps "JA: Flashback" will be just that:
http://www.breachandclear.com/wp-content/gallery/art-assets-gallery/bc_keyartplate.jpg
Picture from the game "Breach & Clear" on the engine Unity

You still have time to invest your money in your dream!
Re: Jagged Alliance: Flashback now on Kickstarter[message #320244] Wed, 22 May 2013 22:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Shanga

 
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Registered:January 2000
Location: Danubia
whoami - that looks sweet. and considering the space hulk gfx... i have high hopes it will be something like that.


Re: Jagged Alliance: Flashback now on Kickstarter[message #320258] Thu, 23 May 2013 00:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Thor

 
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Registered:February 2007
Location: Belgium
The kickstarter starts to resemble a download... A working one... almost complete^^
Re: Jagged Alliance: Flashback now on Kickstarter[message #320260] Thu, 23 May 2013 00:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Slax

 
Messages:1435
Registered:July 2006
Location: People riding polar bears...
http://i.imgur.com/Lsa3mf6.jpg
Lookin' good.

Re: Jagged Alliance: Flashback now on Kickstarter[message #320277] Thu, 23 May 2013 06:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mauser

 
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Registered:August 2006
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Oh my, it looks like it may well succeed yet!

The suspense in these closing hours is almost unBEARable! :crossed: :moosegrin:

By trhe time i get home from work this evening, i will be able to follow the last hours live! And i know many of my fellow Bearspitters here will do the very same. So i propose for Shanga to already prepare a special celebration and congratulations thread for the occasion, where we can express our exaltation, relief and joy appropriately.

For the hour draws finally near, where all of our combined hopes and dreams, which we harbored for the past years with so many disappointments, will finally get their biggest chance of getting fulfilled properly yet! Also, this occasion may actually render the SMP project redundant, as FC will hopefully provide us with the up to date engine, tools and expertise to fulfill all our JA modding dreams through JA:F. Which also proves my conviction, that good things eventually come to those who just wait patiently enough.

Bloody hell, the excitement! :compcuppa:

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Re: Jagged Alliance: Flashback now on Kickstarter[message #320279] Thu, 23 May 2013 08:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
gdalf

 
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Registered:May 2013
Averaged about $1.75k/hour yesterday. Keep it up and this is going to $360k. Extra push and the first stretch goal isn't far-fetched
Re: Jagged Alliance: Flashback now on Kickstarter[message #320280] Thu, 23 May 2013 08:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
sirlach

 
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Registered:June 2010
Location: Sydney, Australia
I'm predicting that there will need a BP powered Slacker Backer Campaign to fund the Map Editor Stretch Goal.
Re: Jagged Alliance: Flashback now on Kickstarter[message #320281] Thu, 23 May 2013 08:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
EXile 150 Abyss

 
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Registered:September 2009
Every chance I get at work I'm going to be checking the total...

So close... 18K to go...
Re: Jagged Alliance: Flashback now on Kickstarter[message #320283] Thu, 23 May 2013 09:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Loki7285

 
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we are going to win
Re: Jagged Alliance: Flashback now on Kickstarter[message #320285] Thu, 23 May 2013 09:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mauser

 
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Bivol
we are going to win


Yes. yes we are! In any case, because we will get a proper Jagged Alliance game one way or the other i might add. The only question remaining is, how long it will take and how many features and content the release version will have.

But it is practically sure this Kickstarter will succeed, albeit barely. And from then on it

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Re: Jagged Alliance: Flashback now on Kickstarter[message #320286] Thu, 23 May 2013 10:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Oilystool

 
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Registered:April 2013
Location: Copenhagen
As promised,the last and most visually intrusive FB banner!

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7366/8788003219_26e0fd9f83_o.jpg
Re: Jagged Alliance: Flashback now on Kickstarter[message #320289] Thu, 23 May 2013 11:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mauser

 
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Oh boy, only 14 hours and 14k $ to go! That

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Re: Jagged Alliance: Flashback now on Kickstarter[message #320291] Thu, 23 May 2013 11:19 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
Shadow21

 
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Location: on route to San Hermanos
thats the beauty of paying with a credit card you wont get charged till next month Razz

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