What *everyone* would actually like to see:[message #3146]
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Thu, 15 April 2004 08:51
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Alpha Male |
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Ok,maybe im presuming too mutch,but it just dawned to me,as a logical conclusion to all the posting ive read here:
What JA3 (or another game like it) could and should be is what "Neverwinter Nights" became for the Crpg
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Private 1st Class
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Re: What *everyone* would actually like to see:[message #3152]
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Sat, 17 April 2004 00:26
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Kurt |
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No, you're right, and the overall idea to build an engine made for modding, like the NWN engine, is a good one; The problem is (IMHO) that it will be far easier to make something (anything) out of the existing game engine, than to start from scratch.
The devs aren't getting paid, everyone works on his free time, and we don't want to game to be released in 10 years from now either (it would again be obsolete). So it's rather an "a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush" case.
Unless of course someone drops a long-term financing out of his sleeve, and a good contract with an editor, to get the future game some serious distribution (see the problems Wildfire is facing).
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Master Sergeant
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Re: What *everyone* would actually like to see:[message #3154]
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Sat, 17 April 2004 04:41
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Alpha Male |
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Whoaaa,horsy....
Look i talk about JA3 beind done in the same format engine, not being suited i mean as a commertial offer by SF or any professional company.
I have not,and never meant to knock down the efforts of the modding/fan community.im a modder myself (altough my work so far is in Nwn,modeller and texturing.)And implications that i would do so is one i will deeply resent.
To be clear once and for all:
A)when a new,*comertial* made Jagged Alliance comes out,it really needs to be something really new.otherwise im not shelling out cash.i will not tolerate from a Gaming company anything less that top of the line work,they arent doing anything else besides developing the game,and have supposedly qualified professional being payed to develop it (i hope).so waht may be tottaly acceptable as a mod or fan-based or sure as hell aint qhen it comes to the major leagues!
Beacause,as you pointed out,fans havent got the butjet,skills and time to do a lot more than they have so far (wich has been a lot given the inumerous limitations,my hat off to you people.)
Dude,sounds youre so desperate you
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Re: What *everyone* would actually like to see:[message #3163]
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Mon, 19 April 2004 20:14
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Khor1255 |
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Well, as I've said in other topics all they would need to do to send me out to the store is make a new storyline, new characters, and a new gameworld. Could be another present day or slightly in the future concept on another part of the world or an entirely different timeline, plot, or even planet.
What I'd really like to see is a system pretty much exactly like Ja2 become the standard engine for a series of games. I'd buy every one. For $25, $35 maybe even $50 without any upgrade to the engine whatsoever. This; I believe, is where we disagree. That's cool. I don't want to debate opinions.
I also am pretty sure whoever has the Ja coptwrite at the moment won't settle for just a new story or a few new features. It strikes me that someone with enough taste to buy up the rights to this game probably has something pretty big in mind for it. We can only hope that he doesn't turn Escape From New York into Escape From LA, The Warriors into Boyz in the Hood, or Planet of the Apes in to some Tim Burton crock of dog pie.
Seriously though, my main point here is this system has the potential (and I dare say right) to be the 'industry standard' for this genre. Unless they drop the ball either in taste or mass appeal. The latter concerns me far less than the former. But I'm just greedy.
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Sergeant Major
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Re: What *everyone* would actually like to see:[message #3165]
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Tue, 20 April 2004 12:46
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DaCheetah |
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I wish an English teacher would read this thread... I've seen bad grammar, and generally don't comment, but JESUS CHRIST.
On Topic:
JA3 will be bought by nearly everyone here, most likely regardless if it sucks or not. Hell, even if they posted on this forum that it was crap people would still buy it. It's kind of a twisted nobless oblige, we owe it to SirTech or the new producer to buy it, just because the greatness of JA2 was just so... great.
Certainly a highly modable JA3 would be gorgeous, but I think then the game will suffer from a major problem, lack of any basic gameplay. Sure, everyone and their mother would be able to mod it, but the problems would lie in the original, there just wouldn't be any substance. Plus you would wind up with a ton of shitty mods, polluting the current one which is by far the best in the gaming community. Perhaps a JA3 could be developed, then an editing pack later introduced, so as to not detract from the elements of JA2 that we love so much.
IF JA3 comes out is more of a question than HOW it should come out. I think our time would be better spent praying below a crucifix for its release than arguing how it should be released.
Just my thoughts.
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Corporal
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