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60 guys...? Really? -.-[message #339419] Fri, 13 February 2015 00:37 Go to next message
Eyestabber is currently offline Eyestabber

 
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So...I know I'm not supposed to attempt to take Drassen cuz counter attack is supposed to be THE 1.13 battle. But going Chitz first (after making a boatload of cash in San Mona) doesn't seem to be that much different as I'm facing a counter attack of 60 guys less than 24h after taking Chitzena northern sector. WTF!? How the hell am I supposed to play this mod? Cuz even with the help of my meatshields (err, loyal militia) there is no way we could ever defeat 60 soldiers considering at least 10 of them are black shirts. My militia are dropping like flies and every blackshirt needs to take at least 4 shots from my .22 peeshooters to die. Using toyguns against an army is not fun at all, even if said army is also packing toyguns. Also, Chitzena has no rooftops, so I can't go for a rooftop rumble. Any ideas?


BTW, rushing Drassen Airport and hoping Bobby Ray will sell me REAL guns failed miserably. He is selling the SAME crap. I will NOT restart my game, as I did nothing wrong other than not GUESSING what the game expects me to do.

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Re: 60 guys...? Really? -.-[message #339420 is a reply to message #339419] Fri, 13 February 2015 04:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
edmortimer is currently offline edmortimer

 
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Sometimes ya gotta retreat and come back later. Hit and run, pick off the enemy squads when they leave Chitz (or Drassen or Grumm (had 92 come at me in Grumm -- but I was gone before they got there), whittle them down.

Addendum: Or . . . do an end run, you know where the bulk of the forces are now -- hightail it to grumm, get a truckload of heavy weapons and then skedaddle out of Grumm and go to work in the countryside.

[Updated on: Fri, 13 February 2015 04:17]

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Re: 60 guys...? Really? -.-[message #339421 is a reply to message #339420] Fri, 13 February 2015 04:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eyestabber is currently offline Eyestabber

 
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Whoever thought making the player face 60+ guys while armed with a peeshooter was a good idea deserves to be shot. With a REAL gun.

I'm not bothering with cheesy tactics. I've restarted with bobby ray maximum quality and I'm rushing Drassen + buying some REAL weapons to fend off whatever comes my way.

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Re: 60 guys...? Really? -.-[message #339422 is a reply to message #339421] Fri, 13 February 2015 04:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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That's why I tweak the loadouts to get M14's at the beginning . . . however, I give the Army rifles also . . . but M1's mostly. It's a different kind of battle, more long range under cover kinda fighting. It also helps to have Meltdown w/premium loadout. . . she's unstoppable for me.

Edit: M1 rifles instead of pistols, that is.

[Updated on: Fri, 13 February 2015 04:37]

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Re: 60 guys...? Really? -.-[message #343388 is a reply to message #339421] Fri, 04 December 2015 07:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Th0m is currently offline Th0m
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Eyestabber wrote on Fri, 13 February 2015 03:32
Whoever thought making the player face 60+ guys while armed with a peeshooter was a good idea deserves to be shot. With a REAL gun.

I think this idea is just AWESOME
I was a huge fan of JA2 during my teenage, and I love this mod I just discovered.

You're not fighting a regular war, you're fighting a guerilla and you're the "weak" side.
Thus said, it's logical to meet over-powered troops and your strenght isn't the fire power but the surprise element here's a few tips:
1. If they're strong run and hide. If you fail place traps and ambush, you don't have to kill them, just wound them enough so they stop following you while you try to run and hide again. If you injure 30 of them, even lightly, that's half of their troops that will be unable to follow you further.
2. Move with the smallest and most dispersed squads you can, attack with the biggest squad you can (from different directions if you can)
3. Try to keep a vehicle near dangerous areas so you can evac quickly your wounded mercs.
4. Do not underestimate melee and knives to neutralize isolated soldiers quietly.
5. Have a small squad away from battle but near to all your other squads so they can provide a quick support in case things turn bad for one of them. "Athletic" is a great skill for that since you can provide a quicker support, then you can cover the rescued squad while they run away and when they're safe your support team is fast enough to escape easily and the escape road have just been reconed by the rescued team so you'll have few risk to run like mad men.

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Re: 60 guys...? Really? -.-[message #343404 is a reply to message #343388] Sat, 05 December 2015 22:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
delosombres is currently offline delosombres

 
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Use camo + stealthy + night ops traits + silenced pistol / smg + HP/glaser ammo (most enemies don't have vests early in the game) and do night missions. Using hit and run tactics you can kill nomatterhowmany guys with just one dude. :]

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Whoever thought making the player face 60+ guys while armed with a peeshooter was a good idea deserves to be shot. With a REAL gun.

The fact that enemies hit beyond effective range with pistols like nothing made me even more crazy.

[Updated on: Sat, 05 December 2015 22:45]

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Re: 60 guys...? Really? -.-[message #343411 is a reply to message #343404] Sun, 06 December 2015 10:47 Go to previous message
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Turn zombies on. Kill a few baddies and watch them come back and act like fodder for you. The AI usually targets the zombies first.

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